SF 49ERS vs Cowboys Pregame thread - 2022 Season Divisional Round

I am not sure people making fun of the Cowboys is the same as underestimating them as an opponent. They are a good team, but I don't give them much in the way of props based on the Bucs game though, the Bucks didn't belong in the playoffs. That said , we will need to play our best game of the year on Sunday, and we better do it for all 4 qtrs. Otherwise we will get bounced.

I am seeing reports that prices for the "nosebleeder" seats, the cheapest seats in the house, have now rocketed past $1K. Can anyone confirm? Deny? Buy?

Originally posted by mojave45:
I am not sure people making fun of the Cowboys is the same as underestimating them as an opponent. They are a good team, but I don't give them much in the way of props based on the Bucs game though, the Bucks didn't belong in the playoffs. That said , we will need to play our best game of the year on Sunday, and we better do it for all 4 qtrs. Otherwise we will get bounced.

About 50% of the country thought the Bucs would win. Now they are terrible... I rate the Bucs about the same as the Seahawks personally. Neither are great teams but it's still the playoffs and you need to go out and execute. The niners have been on a tear and rightfully should be expected to win but Dallas has been an excellent team all year long as well and they don't need any credit for beating the Bucs; it should be clear to everyone before that they will be a tough out.

I can't stand Dallas. Even their social media is corny as hell. Feels like I'm watching an infomercial. The fakest, most arrogant, and ignorant fan base. And this BS runs from the owner down. Let's go niners! You guys got this!

Originally posted by billbird2111:
I am seeing reports that prices for the "nosebleeder" seats, the cheapest seats in the house, have now rocketed past $1K. Can anyone confirm? Deny? Buy?

49ers-Cowboys tickets are selling for an average price of $1,420 on the secondary market, up 73% since Dallas won last night (ticketIQ)

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) January 17, 2023

That's avg price, ticket master has them at 600 as the cheapest

Originally posted by Velious14:

Originally posted by Midbay:

Originally posted by highway49:
This is gonna be a tough, hard fought game playoff game, against a very good Dallas team. As many here know 3 out of the 4 remaining NFC teams in the playoffs come from the NFC East conference… They got a lot of playmakers, they are well coached, they don't like us and remember last years lost to us vividly. Oh yea, it's also one of the most bitter rivalries of the past half century in the NFL. This ain't going to be easy… Obviously ,we have to get some kind of running game established with some consistency in order to keep their pass rush honest, cause as many have pointed out, their gonna bring a lot of different blitz packages to try and rattle Purdy. The national media pundits will almost always be singing their praises for the cowpies… so what, who cares, this battle isn't going to be about Talking it's going to be about Bashing…. "Go Niners"

Quinn is fine but McCarthy is mediocre at best IMO.

I think McCarthy is a very good coach. He's not a cerebral coach like KS but he's a good man manager and let's his coordinators do their jobs. The Cowboys have had a tough schedule and suffered significant injuries throughout the season and he has kept them very competitive. This will be a tough game though I do believe the niners should be favored so long as they do not underestimate the cowboys as many on here seemingly are.

I don't get McCarthy as a very good coach. He does really stupid stuff sometimes then acts like everyone else has the problem. His team is a reflection. Talented (The team not McCarthy) but weirdly unstable.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Cowboys fans keeping their expectations entirely realistic.

San Francisco is a paper tiger

They look good, even dominant, but they haven't played any of the top teams except Kansas City.

Kansas City wiped the floor with them, 44-23.
While Brock Purdy's success makes for a feel good story- and it should- the 49'ers will miss Garappolo Sunday night. Purdy and the Niners have feasted on sub par opponents, but now Purdy has to face the Dallas Cowboys- and all that a complete team has to offer.

The Cowboys won't fold in the third quarter. When the second half starts, Dan Quinn's adjustments will crunch the dreams of a rookie quarterback who has become accustomed to sub .500 teams who run out of gas after they play a close first half. Purdy will find that the Cowboys secondary doesn't lay down. I predict that it will be the 49'ers offense that runs out of gas this time.

So the only question is how the Cowboys offense will fare against the Niner defense. And that will break the hearts of Niner fans. Not only will Pollard and Elliot have great games, but the defense of the Cowboys will add to that with turnovers that assist the offense. With all of that, Dak will play loose, and will have some big plays.

Cowboys 34, 49'ers 14.

Damn… well I guess it was a good season! Should we tell the boys to not even bother showing up?

They said basically the same thing last year. I could have sworn we beat them, in thier house, last year.

So, people will get upset, say I am not a real fan, etc. etc.

Here is the thing...I have said before I believe the 49ers' defense is overrated--perhaps not overrated, but that their ranking is inflated. The 49ers did not face many good offenses (either overall, or at the time said offenses faced the 49ers). Until the 49ers faced the Chiefs, the 49ers had not faced a competent offense. Atlanta's O was not some juggernaut, the Rams' OL was decimated during the first game, and the Seahawks w/Geno looked paltry early in the season. To be fair, versus the Chiefs, the 49ers' D did not get the doors blown off, as through 3/4 the Chiefs only had 28, but one should not have been confident the 49ers' D could hold back the inevitable.

The 49ers' D played fine against the Chargers, but the Chargers are not a powerhouse on offense. Neither was anyone else until Miami. But if you watch the All-22, you will see Tua miss WIDE OPEN guys the entire first half. That first half performance had far more to do with Tua's inability to hit a barn door, than it did the 49ers' D. They didn't, and have not, up to this point, played another solid O. The Raiders did want they wanted, and that's not some vaunted offense.

Further, the 49ers have not been exceptional versus mobile QB's. They have often lost containment. Thankfully, while Dak can move, he is not "mobile" per se. So that aspect will be less impactful Sunday. I fully expect the deciding factor to be two-fold:

1) Can the 49ers' D contain Pollard? If so, that severely limits what the Cowboys will do on O. If they hold Pollard in check, I don't see their offense putting up more than 20, contingent on turnovers by the 49ers.

2) How will the 49ers' O / Kyle deal with Parsons? If they deal with him / mitigate his impact (many ways to go about this), I expect the 49ers' O to feast. Regardless, I believe the 49ers' O will move the ball. So long as they limit turnovers, and convert in the red zone efficiently, I fully expect the 49ers to put up at least 35 points.

Personally, I see this as a one score game, something along the lines of 38-31 49ers. But a victory for Dallas will not shock me at all, and I believe such an outcome, if it occurs, occurs because the 49ers' D won't be able to contain Pollard. 66.7% chance 49ers win.

Originally posted by Midbay:
I don't get McCarthy as a very good coach. He does really stupid stuff sometimes then acts like everyone else has the problem. His team is a reflection. Talented (The team not McCarthy) but weirdly unstable.

What stupid stuff does he do? Obviously not every in game decision works out but I don't think he makes too many obvious gaffes. Regardless, I think his strength is more as a manager then as a coach, which is a big factor in coaching and probably the deathknell for most failed hires rather then X's and O's. He's taken the Cowboys to the playoffs in consecutive seasons for the first time in a long time and of course he's won a SB in Green Bay… People like to attribute that solely to Aaron Rodgers but he hasn't won squat since McCarthy left. There's really no argument to make that he is a lousy coach. Of course he isn't elite either.

Why is espn predictor showing dal as favorites?

Originally posted by Velious14:

Originally posted by Midbay:
I don't get McCarthy as a very good coach. He does really stupid stuff sometimes then acts like everyone else has the problem. His team is a reflection. Talented (The team not McCarthy) but weirdly unstable.

What stupid stuff does he do? Obviously not every in game decision works out but I don't think he makes too many obvious gaffes. Regardless, I think his strength is more as a manager then as a coach, which is a big factor in coaching and probably the deathknell for most failed hires rather then X's and O's. He's taken the Cowboys to the playoffs in consecutive seasons for the first time in a long time and of course he's won a SB in Green Bay… People like to attribute that solely to Aaron Rodgers but he hasn't won squat since McCarthy left. There's really no argument to make that he is a lousy coach. Of course he isn't elite either.

You don't have to dig very deep to find these things. The last play of their season last year was an obvious case but there are many others before and after. It is a team sport but the Packers found ways to lose when it counted despite having Rogers in his prime. One Super Bowl appearance and win.

You said he was a "very good coach" and I commented that I thought he is "mediocre" and explained a little. Your "lousy" comment is a strawman. I think he is mediocre.

edit: to be fair my full original comment was that he was " mediocre at best"… I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and fully crediting him with being mediocre.

Originally posted by Midbay:
You don't have to dig very deep to find these things. The last play of their season last year was an obvious case but there are many others before and after. It is a team sport but the Packers found ways to lose when it counted despite having Rogers in his prime. One Super Bowl appearance and win.

You said he was a "very good coach" and I commented that I thought he is "mediocre" and explained a little. Your "lousy" comment is a strawman. I think he is mediocre.

Mediocre means below average which I equate to lousy I guess. The last play of the last season was not dumb in my opinion (not by McCarthy anyways…) it's just wasn't executed because Dak didn't realize the refs needed to spot the ball haha…

People praise Sean Payton to kingdom come despite the fact that he was in a similar situation to McCarthy and also won only 1 SB with Brees. Again, Aaron Rodgers hasn't won a SB without McCarthy either despite the fact he was still in his prime for several years after he got run out of town.

I do not think McCarthy is elite, but I do think he is very good and there are only a handful of coaches in the league that I think are clearly better then him.

Serious non-troll question but are you a Dallas fan or 49er fan or other? The only people I know who thought that playcall was fine are Cowboys fans.

edit: this is for Velious

Yes, I'm a Dallas fan yeah. Most Dallas fans however were livid about that play though largely directed at Dak although they don't like McCarthy either (in fact, about 50% of Dallas fans seem to loathe everyone and everything about the team; I guess the last 25 years will do that).

Anyways, I don't think the idea behind the play is that bad. The chances of getting a TD from the 41 yard line are far lower then from the 24 yard line and the element of surprise helped that play be successful. They just needed to execute better which is often the case when fans deride one playcall or another. There was a legitimate reason to try that play but it didn't work so people laugh at it now.

Our Oline does well against pass rushers like Parson's. It's the big and strong guys that do well vs our Oline. Our Oline is very athletic which makes them good run blockers and can handle the speedy guys off the edges. It's why we have so much success vs Donald, He is not that big. But guys like Chris Jones for example always gives us problems because other than Trent Williams our Oline are not very strong and can be bullied by the bigger and stronger Dlinemen. I think Parson's is only 248.

Originally posted by Velious14:
Mediocre means below average which I equate to lousy I guess. The last play of the last season was not dumb in my opinion (not by McCarthy anyways…) it's just wasn't executed because Dak didn't realize the refs needed to spot the ball haha…

People praise Sean Payton to kingdom come despite the fact that he was in a similar situation to McCarthy and also won only 1 SB with Brees. Again, Aaron Rodgers hasn't won a SB without McCarthy either despite the fact he was still in his prime for several years after he got run out of town.

I do not think McCarthy is elite, but I do think he is very good and there are only a handful of coaches in the league that I think are clearly better then him.

Mike is a players coach. I've read when Dak was injured he would spend countless hours at his house hanging out with him. I've read similar about other players. I've never been a huge fan but even I have to admit things are turning around in Dallas. This is going to be (at least on paper) a very hard fought battle and looking at defensive coaches left on all teams including AFC if we were to make it, I think Dan Quinn is really going to come for Brock. Dan Quinn is the worry. Not Mike.

Mike and Dallas have a lot riding on this win to truly be considered relevant in the post season again. I'd be ready for some trickery too. It takes a lot to wipe away an image and they can't sustain a loss here. We are the better team but I hope we don't see a first half like Seattle. We need to be on all the way thru.

And Dan knows Kyle better than most.