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SF 49ERS vs Cowboys Pregame thread - 2022 Season Divisional Round

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  • DrEll
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With Dallas, it's always about recency bias. If they were coming into SF after that horrid performance against Washington, we'd be favored by 6-7 and everyone in the media would be talking about how we would annihilate then on Sunday. Instead they showed up and beat up on a team that didn't even belong there, now the media is all over them like it's a resurgence that's never been seen before.

it's the playoffs. Of course it's going to be competitive. But on paper we're a much better team. If you compare the teams from last year we've done a whole lot more upgrading than they have. The tides favor us, as long as we don't choke.
  • Baldie
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I just feel like these teams are evenly matched, just gonna come down to execution and no mistakes/penalties. The only slight edge is we're at home. We didn't have CMC last year, a healthy Bosa, and an undefeated Rookie QB who isn't playing like a rookie. I also won't be surprised if we see a good amount of blue jerseys in the stands, hope not.
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Originally posted by DrEll:
With Dallas, it's always about recency bias. If they were coming into SF after that horrid performance against Washington, we'd be favored by 6-7 and everyone in the media would be talking about how we would annihilate then on Sunday. Instead they showed up and beat up on a team that didn't even belong there, now the media is all over them like it's a resurgence that's never been seen before.

it's the playoffs. Of course it's going to be competitive. But on paper we're a much better team. If you compare the teams from last year we've done a whole lot more upgrading than they have. The tides favor us, as long as we don't choke.

That's just it, if we don't choke and have blown coverages in the secondary. Warner and the D need to be extra special in the RZ.
[ Edited by Baldie on Jan 18, 2023 at 4:11 AM ]
Originally posted by DrEll:
With Dallas, it's always about recency bias. If they were coming into SF after that horrid performance against Washington, we'd be favored by 6-7 and everyone in the media would be talking about how we would annihilate then on Sunday. Instead they showed up and beat up on a team that didn't even belong there, now the media is all over them like it's a resurgence that's never been seen before.

it's the playoffs. Of course it's going to be competitive. But on paper we're a much better team. If you compare the teams from last year we've done a whole lot more upgrading than they have. The tides favor us, as long as we don't choke.

We also beat up on a team that didn't belong in the playoffs.
  • mayo49
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Originally posted by Baldie:
I just feel like these teams are evenly matched, just gonna come down to execution and no mistakes/penalties. The only slight edge is we're at home. We didn't have CMC last year, a healthy Bosa, and an undefeated Rookie QB who isn't playing like a rookie. I also won't be surprised if we see a good amount of blue jerseys in the stands, hope not.

Exactly, Baldie - the team that makes the least mistakes will win the game.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Jan 18, 2023 at 4:22 AM ]
Originally posted by DrEll:
With Dallas, it's always about recency bias. If they were coming into SF after that horrid performance against Washington, we'd be favored by 6-7 and everyone in the media would be talking about how we would annihilate then on Sunday. Instead they showed up and beat up on a team that didn't even belong there, now the media is all over them like it's a resurgence that's never been seen before.

it's the playoffs. Of course it's going to be competitive. But on paper we're a much better team. If you compare the teams from last year we've done a whole lot more upgrading than they have. The tides favor us, as long as we don't choke.

yeah, cant turn the ball over. offense has been very good at not doing that. granted, that needs to be the case in every game here on out
Originally posted by Baldie:
I just feel like these teams are evenly matched, just gonna come down to execution and no mistakes/penalties. The only slight edge is we're at home. We didn't have CMC last year, a healthy Bosa, and an undefeated Rookie QB who isn't playing like a rookie. I also won't be surprised if we see a good amount of blue jerseys in the stands, hope not.

hell we didn't even have a healthy QB. And even if we did, Purdy still is an upgrade to due his sheer mobility alone
[ Edited by Sanfran_chrisco on Jan 18, 2023 at 4:30 AM ]
I think one thing being overlooked for this game is just how much the Cowboys defenders had to play on Monday night. A decent amount of their starters played around 80 snaps, which is asinine to me as about 20 of those came with under 5 minutes to go in a 31-6 game. In comparison, nobody on the 9ers defense played more than 50 snaps vs Seattle, and Bosa played almost exactly half (40) as many snaps as Parsons (79) did in the WC round.
Originally posted by SFTifoso:
Originally posted by paulk205:
No, but they have a tangible impact on my stomach acid levels during the game.

We're winning this.

We're gonna f'n ruin them!
  • Silky
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by DrEll:
With Dallas, it's always about recency bias. If they were coming into SF after that horrid performance against Washington, we'd be favored by 6-7 and everyone in the media would be talking about how we would annihilate then on Sunday. Instead they showed up and beat up on a team that didn't even belong there, now the media is all over them like it's a resurgence that's never been seen before.

it's the playoffs. Of course it's going to be competitive. But on paper we're a much better team. If you compare the teams from last year we've done a whole lot more upgrading than they have. The tides favor us, as long as we don't choke.

We also beat up on a team that didn't belong in the playoffs.

Seattle belonged. They scraped for the wildcard. Atleast one 9 win team usually gets in. I think what the OP was saying was that the Bucs didn't belong in the playoffs with 8 wins. That usually never cuts it, but because they have a horrid division they had to be in the playoffs.
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by DrEll:
With Dallas, it's always about recency bias. If they were coming into SF after that horrid performance against Washington, we'd be favored by 6-7 and everyone in the media would be talking about how we would annihilate then on Sunday. Instead they showed up and beat up on a team that didn't even belong there, now the media is all over them like it's a resurgence that's never been seen before.

it's the playoffs. Of course it's going to be competitive. But on paper we're a much better team. If you compare the teams from last year we've done a whole lot more upgrading than they have. The tides favor us, as long as we don't choke.

We also beat up on a team that didn't belong in the playoffs.

At least Seattle made it with the Wildcard. Bucs made it because their division is terrible..
  • Silky
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Originally posted by Montana:
DAL has a few weapons that need to be contained..Pollard, Parsons, Ceedee. They got some good players that move well. Gotta bring the A game. Need to put pressure on Dak and do it quick & effectively. Throw him off his horse lol. D needs to bring it big.

Dallas will be looking at Vegas film and try to replicate how LV exposed our defense that game.

Niners will look at Washington film to try and replicate how Washington shut down their offense.

Gonna be a chess match for sure
Originally posted by Polkadots:
So, people will get upset, say I am not a real fan, etc. etc.

Here is the thing...I have said before I believe the 49ers' defense is overrated--perhaps not overrated, but that their ranking is inflated. The 49ers did not face many good offenses (either overall, or at the time said offenses faced the 49ers). Until the 49ers faced the Chiefs, the 49ers had not faced a competent offense. Atlanta's O was not some juggernaut, the Rams' OL was decimated during the first game, and the Seahawks w/Geno looked paltry early in the season. To be fair, versus the Chiefs, the 49ers' D did not get the doors blown off, as through 3/4 the Chiefs only had 28, but one should not have been confident the 49ers' D could hold back the inevitable.

The 49ers' D played fine against the Chargers, but the Chargers are not a powerhouse on offense. Neither was anyone else until Miami. But if you watch the All-22, you will see Tua miss WIDE OPEN guys the entire first half. That first half performance had far more to do with Tua's inability to hit a barn door, than it did the 49ers' D. They didn't, and have not, up to this point, played another solid O. The Raiders did want they wanted, and that's not some vaunted offense.

Further, the 49ers have not been exceptional versus mobile QB's. They have often lost containment. Thankfully, while Dak can move, he is not "mobile" per se. So that aspect will be less impactful Sunday. I fully expect the deciding factor to be two-fold:

1) Can the 49ers' D contain Pollard? If so, that severely limits what the Cowboys will do on O. If they hold Pollard in check, I don't see their offense putting up more than 20, contingent on turnovers by the 49ers.

2) How will the 49ers' O / Kyle deal with Parsons? If they deal with him / mitigate his impact (many ways to go about this), I expect the 49ers' O to feast. Regardless, I believe the 49ers' O will move the ball. So long as they limit turnovers, and convert in the red zone efficiently, I fully expect the 49ers to put up at least 35 points.

Personally, I see this as a one score game, something along the lines of 38-31 49ers. But a victory for Dallas will not shock me at all, and I believe such an outcome, if it occurs, occurs because the 49ers' D won't be able to contain Pollard. 66.7% chance 49ers win.

Tua missed wide open guys because of defensive pressure. In other words, when a defense is good, QBs screw up.

Now use your same argument against Dallas. You, like Cowboys fans, are suffering from recency bias. You saw a Cowboys team destroy a Tampa team that didn't belong in the playoffs. The same team we blew out by 28 points a few weeks ago.

If we play to our potential, no one can beat us. Too many weapons. We beat this same team last year in their house with a banged up team running the gimmick Deebo offense.

This team is much better and healthier than last year and we're at home.
Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by DrEll:
With Dallas, it's always about recency bias. If they were coming into SF after that horrid performance against Washington, we'd be favored by 6-7 and everyone in the media would be talking about how we would annihilate then on Sunday. Instead they showed up and beat up on a team that didn't even belong there, now the media is all over them like it's a resurgence that's never been seen before.

it's the playoffs. Of course it's going to be competitive. But on paper we're a much better team. If you compare the teams from last year we've done a whole lot more upgrading than they have. The tides favor us, as long as we don't choke.

We also beat up on a team that didn't belong in the playoffs.

Seattle belonged. They scraped for the wildcard. Atleast one 9 win team usually gets in. I think what the OP was saying was that the Bucs didn't belong in the playoffs with 8 wins. That usually never cuts it, but because they have a horrid division they had to be in the playoffs.

We needed 10 wins to secure the 7th seed last year. Seattle got in because of poor officiating in the week 18 matchup against the rams. Otherwise it would have been the lions who made it instead.
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