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SF 49ERS vs Cowboys Pregame thread - 2022 Season Divisional Round

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Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Niners are better than last year by a substantial margin (offense +++, defense -, ST neutral). Cowboys are better or similar (offense neutral, defense +, ST ----).

Removing the QBs from the comparison, towards the end of the season and in the playoffs, these are the two best offenses. Ironically both defenses rank #1 and #2 in DVOA for the year on defense, but I would say that both have struggled down the stretch.

I think this game will be a high-scoring game. Since going to Purdy, we've seen the following team behavior:
  • more explosive plays
  • shorter offensive drives
  • more scoring
  • more defensive yards against
  • more defensive points against
  • more defenive turnovers

Our team is playing more like KC in 2018/2019. We're scoring a bunch of points, defense is on the field more and generally not as dominant as it was in the beginning of the season, but other teams must throw to keep up, so we're also turning opponents over more than earlier in the season too.

I'm nervous over all, because it does come down to the QBs here. From the perspective of Dak Prescott, if he loses here, his contract and his standing as 'SB-capable QB" would look silly. It's hard to imagine them being as good as they've been the past two season as FA's leave and their O-line gets older. If he wins, this is the first NFCCG they've been to since '95. For them, that's statue material for DAL. There's way more pressure on him than Purdy.

For Purdy, he either loses and the offseason conversations begin immediately about QB1 Purdy (great until the end) and Lance. If Purdy wins, then we're probably going to the NFFCG in PHI with one less day to prepare and we'd be underdogs. He will have so far surpassed expectations that a QB competition would seem silly. Lance could get traded. But either way, Purdy enters 2023 offseason as the favorite to be QB1, the pressure on him is dramatically less than Prescott.

I mostly agree, but I would say our ST is much better than last season. We have a good solid ST unit this season, and we had one of the worst ST unit last season.

Our pass protection has been good this season. We haven't seen our QB get much pressured by 4 rushers, but I suppose that can be a big test this week against the Cowboys.

Right, our special teams is significantly better than last year. We had like no return game at all and our coverage was average.

this year we have a top 10, maybe 5, special teams unit. I'm not exactly sure where the final ranking finished.

our offense is definitely better and healthier than last year. Our defense is also better and healthy. We are a much improved team in comparison to our team that played them last year.

id be shocked if we lost, tbh. Dallas is fully capable of beating us but now we are in our house, healthy, and inproved.
Dallas may be better than last year, but are they much better or slightly better? I'd say dak is worse than last year.

i really think the pressure is going to get to him and he is will quickly realize this isn't TB defense. All we have to do is keep scoring, which hasn't been a problem for at least 7 weeks now. That'll turn them one dimensional and that's when Dak makes his mistakes.

the problem will be if our defense plays like we did against Seattle in the first half. We HAVE to come out with more energy and aggression.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:

What a dumbass, sounds like he has money to kill.

They are from Texas and do this for free pub. As you can see it gets good reach even here on the WZ. It's marketing you pay money for views / attention. In this case it maybe be free or profitable marketing if the bet hits. Pretty shrewd imo. Even if the bet fails it's $2m of ad/marketing expenditure.

He also does huge giveaways at his furniture stores and everything. He does this for CFB too. It's a big publicity thing and it works super well for him.

i just hope he loses $2M lol
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:

What a dumbass, sounds like he has money to kill.

They are from Texas and do this for free pub. As you can see it gets good reach even here on the WZ. It's marketing you pay money for views / attention. In this case it maybe be free or profitable marketing if the bet hits. Pretty shrewd imo. Even if the bet fails it's $2m of ad/marketing expenditure.

He also does huge giveaways at his furniture stores and everything. He does this for CFB too. It's a big publicity thing and it works super well for him.

i just hope he loses $2M lol

Idiot, blowing money when he can give it to the needy.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Jan 20, 2023 at 10:30 AM ]
Originally posted by tankle104:
He also does huge giveaways at his furniture stores and everything. He does this for CFB too. It's a big publicity thing and it works super well for him.

i just hope he loses $2M lol

I believe he just won 31 million betting on Astros.
Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Is Warner ok here? He sounds like he's about to have a heart attack

I was wondering the same thing! Sounds like he just ran up a few flights of stairs or something!
Originally posted by tankle104:
Right, our special teams is significantly better than last year. We had like no return game at all and our coverage was average.

this year we have a top 10, maybe 5, special teams unit. I'm not exactly sure where the final ranking finished.

our offense is definitely better and healthier than last year. Our defense is also better and healthy. We are a much improved team in comparison to our team that played them last year.

id be shocked if we lost, tbh. Dallas is fully capable of beating us but now we are in our house, healthy, and inproved.
Dallas may be better than last year, but are they much better or slightly better? I'd say dak is worse than last year.

i really think the pressure is going to get to him and he is will quickly realize this isn't TB defense. All we have to do is keep scoring, which hasn't been a problem for at least 7 weeks now. That'll turn them one dimensional and that's when Dak makes his mistakes.

the problem will be if our defense plays like we did against Seattle in the first half. We HAVE to come out with more energy and aggression.

Agree, we gotta let em know why we got the no 1 defense, right out of the gate, full agro. Intimidation & domination baby
What do you guys do to calm your nerves when you see pro-cowboys material? Like an idiot placing a $2mil bet on them. I gotta admit it gives me anxiety
Originally posted by cortana49:
Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Is Warner ok here? He sounds like he's about to have a heart attack

I was wondering the same thing! Sounds like he just ran up a few flights of stairs or something!

Maybe he's getting a beej during the entire video. You never see the bottom half of his body
I bet the same ppl picking the Cowboys to win are the same ones who said Deebo was getting traded there in off-season

brain dead.
Originally posted by Silky:
What do you guys do to calm your nerves when you see pro-cowboys material? Like an idiot placing a $2mil bet on them. I gotta admit it gives me anxiety

I just remind myself it's the coaches and players preparation and execution on the field that decides the outcome. Nothing else. The Niners have the advantage in almost every category. Not scared at all.
Originally posted by Seattle49er:
Originally posted by tankle104:
He also does huge giveaways at his furniture stores and everything. He does this for CFB too. It's a big publicity thing and it works super well for him.

i just hope he loses $2M lol

I believe he just won 31 million betting on Astros.


Originally posted by Silky:
What do you guys do to calm your nerves when you see pro-cowboys material? Like an idiot placing a $2mil bet on them. I gotta admit it gives me anxiety

If it helps. the same guy bet $3.1 million on TCU earlier in the month and we saw how that turned out

https://www.cbsnews.com/dfw/news/mattress-mack-places-3-1-million-bet-on-tcu-winning-national-championship/
[ Edited by swoosh6996 on Jan 20, 2023 at 10:35 AM ]
Originally posted by Seattle49er:
Originally posted by tankle104:
He also does huge giveaways at his furniture stores and everything. He does this for CFB too. It's a big publicity thing and it works super well for him.

i just hope he loses $2M lol

I believe he just won 31 million betting on Astros.

Yeah, he's been crushing it recently. He does the betting to offset the furniture giveaways he does.
Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by cortana49:
Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Is Warner ok here? He sounds like he's about to have a heart attack

I was wondering the same thing! Sounds like he just ran up a few flights of stairs or something!

Maybe he's getting a beej during the entire video. You never see the bottom half of his body

I don't know that wouldn't be too much of a turn on, his wife has some masculine type qualities.
Originally posted by Silky:
What do you guys do to calm your nerves when you see pro-cowboys material? Like an idiot placing a $2mil bet on them. I gotta admit it gives me anxiety

Doesn't bother me at all. Everything can be pro cowboys. It's all irrelevant. The betting, the talking heads, the predictions - all of it is irrelevant. Sure it's fun to listen and talk about it with people and to take all the data we can to try and predict the outcome, but it really doesn't mean much at all.

all that matters is what the team does on game day. So that's all I really care about.

a lot of what's said on TV/Internet is purely business driven. If I had a YouTube channel on football right now - I'd definitely be making videos with cowboys materials (not saying they would win) because it draws a lot of views. whether we like it or not, the cowboys brand is the most popular and brings the highest ratings every year.

when they claim the cowboys will win, what happens? People share it. Talk about it. Debate it. Throw fits. But at the end of the day, you're doing exactly what they want - which is spreading their name and show all over for
people to be aware of. It's free marketing and they know that.

it's like Mayweather. He was a great boxer for years but no one cared to watch him cause it was so boring. So what did he do? He made himself a villain by saying and acting like a punk because people would buy tickets/PPV to watch him lose. Not to watch him win. It was just marketing. He's a POS anyways, but he never acted he said things like he did for his early part of his career. He did that once he realized he was too boring to get big purses.

The better question is "why do people let all that irrelevant stuff impact their mind/mood". I just laugh at these things or listen to them and pluck the data that's relevant. That's all.
[ Edited by tankle104 on Jan 20, 2023 at 10:48 AM ]
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Originally posted by Midbay:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

A good supplement to Jonnydel's videos. Chip Kelly must either really like Shannahan or absolutely despise him. Kelly wanted to have a small set of plays that were run extremely well, and this worked in college. Kyle's playbook scales out obviously, but with watching Jonnydel's stuff and pieces like this it is even setting in with a dim bulb like me why Kyle wants his roster of "positionless" guys. By moving guys around it may be the same play for the offense but not for the defense.

Its an interesting variation, I think, from the Greatest show on Turf. That offense had tremendous speed at every offensive skill position. The Kyle positionless offense, has tackle-breaking, YAK, and power at all skill positions. Very similar to the '94 offense - but Kyle's offense has that punishing dimension to it that the '94 offense didn't have much of, other than Watters and Floyd.
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