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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
We happen to hear a lot about this stat as JG and now BP both win at outsized rates. They are winning a much larger percent of their starts than typical. NFL is a zero sum game so average would be .500. Every TV broadcast they show the QB record. They will do it again this Sunday.

I want to say W/L record is more of coach stat than a QB with a few outliers like Peyton Manning.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Yes QB is involved in your wins. Which is why Brock Purdy and Jimmy G can do it. While a long string of QB's in that same system have not been able to do it.

People getting triggered by pointing out that Brock wins games seems so weird.

Lol you mean Jimmy. Brocks been awesome and has contributed a lot in that area.

Is it a stat for QBs? Sure, but it's deeper than that. If it that mattered that much, Tebow would be still playing and same with Sanchez. If you wanna argue that Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson was the reason for their respective teams success than you don't understand what you're talking about it.

Peyton Manning and Mark Sanchez aren't the same lol.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
We happen to hear a lot about this stat as JG and now BP both win at outsized rates. They are winning a much larger percent of their starts than typical. NFL is a zero sum game so average would be .500. Every TV broadcast they show the QB record. They will do it again this Sunday.

I want to say W/L record is more of coach stat than a QB with a few outliers like Peyton Manning.

This is two different discussions imo. One is IS it a stat? It is. Two is SHOULD it be a stat or who factors more? This thread is asking is it a stat. Yet I feel most people are responding to the should it be question. It gets convoluted.
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by boast:
i believe the debate was "are Wins a QB stat"

the NFL record book appears to prove that they are a QB stat.

Thanks, edited.

If we acknowledge they are an official stat kept by the NFL why is this even an open question for debate? It's settled.
a coffee table book is not official. if it was official it would be on the site..there is a reason why they don't include it

a coffee table book hahahahah. it's a PDF. the NFL made it easily searchable posting it that way.

and it's on the NFL site. and even more specifically it's the operations.nfl.com site.

https://operations.nfl.com/updates/the-game/2022-nfl-record-and-fact-book/
it's a kids book.. there is a reason why you have to download it . parody

you really have no idea what youre talking about. it's downloadable because it's over 700 pages.
no idea about what.. your statement doesn't help you one bit
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
We happen to hear a lot about this stat as JG and now BP both win at outsized rates. They are winning a much larger percent of their starts than typical. NFL is a zero sum game so average would be .500. Every TV broadcast they show the QB record. They will do it again this Sunday.

I want to say W/L record is more of coach stat than a QB with a few outliers like Peyton Manning.

This is two different discussions imo. One is IS it a stat? It is. Two is SHOULD it be a stat or who factors more? This thread is asking is it a stat. Yet I feel most people are responding to the should it be question. It gets convoluted.

Okay sure win is a stat….
How many Super Bowls Joe Montana win?
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by boast:
i believe the debate was "are Wins a QB stat"

the NFL record book appears to prove that they are a QB stat.

Thanks, edited.

If we acknowledge they are an official stat kept by the NFL why is this even an open question for debate? It's settled.
a coffee table book is not official. if it was official it would be on the site..there is a reason why they don't include it

a coffee table book hahahahah. it's a PDF. the NFL made it easily searchable posting it that way.

and it's on the NFL site. and even more specifically it's the operations.nfl.com site.

https://operations.nfl.com/updates/the-game/2022-nfl-record-and-fact-book/
it's a kids book.. there is a reason why you have to download it . parody

you really have no idea what youre talking about. it's downloadable because it's over 700 pages.
no idea about what.. your statement doesn't help you one bit

you cant even keep your opinion straight. first it was coffee table book then it was a kids book. youve lost the plot completely.
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by boast:
i believe the debate was "are Wins a QB stat"

the NFL record book appears to prove that they are a QB stat.

Thanks, edited.

If we acknowledge they are an official stat kept by the NFL why is this even an open question for debate? It's settled.
a coffee table book is not official. if it was official it would be on the site..there is a reason why they don't include it

a coffee table book hahahahah. it's a PDF. the NFL made it easily searchable posting it that way.

and it's on the NFL site. and even more specifically it's the operations.nfl.com site.

https://operations.nfl.com/updates/the-game/2022-nfl-record-and-fact-book/
it's a kids book.. there is a reason why you have to download it . parody

you really have no idea what youre talking about. it's downloadable because it's over 700 pages.
no idea about what.. your statement doesn't help you one bit

you cant even keep your opinion straight. first it was coffee table book then it was a kids book. youve lost the plot completely.

Yup he changes his argument every time in the short time I've been here. Like yesterday he was saying QB rating dictates how well a QB plays and is a main stat that says so yet he's spent a lot of time hating on a QB with one of the best ratings in the league. He makes no sense imo. A typing contradiction.
[ Edited by ItsX4Number6 on Jan 19, 2023 at 11:26 AM ]
Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
How many Super Bowls Joe Montana win?

Open a thread let the debate begin lol
QB is part of the story. Matt Stafford was a great QB in Detroit. He threw for 5k yards a year at times. He wasn't winning a ton though. Winning is a complicated formula. Depends on the team and the sitch.
[ Edited by ninerfan818 on Jan 19, 2023 at 11:32 AM ]
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by boast:
i believe the debate was "are Wins a QB stat"

the NFL record book appears to prove that they are a QB stat.

Thanks, edited.

If we acknowledge they are an official stat kept by the NFL why is this even an open question for debate? It's settled.
a coffee table book is not official. if it was official it would be on the site..there is a reason why they don't include it

a coffee table book hahahahah. it's a PDF. the NFL made it easily searchable posting it that way.

and it's on the NFL site. and even more specifically it's the operations.nfl.com site.

https://operations.nfl.com/updates/the-game/2022-nfl-record-and-fact-book/
it's a kids book.. there is a reason why you have to download it . parody

you really have no idea what youre talking about. it's downloadable because it's over 700 pages.
no idea about what.. your statement doesn't help you one bit

you cant even keep your opinion straight. first it was coffee table book then it was a kids book. youve lost the plot completely.
this maybe be the most ignorant post here, since when is giving multiple descriptions make it any less lol
Who would you all think the top pure pocket passers are in the NFL today?
Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by boast:
i believe the debate was "are Wins a QB stat"

the NFL record book appears to prove that they are a QB stat.

Thanks, edited.

If we acknowledge they are an official stat kept by the NFL why is this even an open question for debate? It's settled.
a coffee table book is not official. if it was official it would be on the site..there is a reason why they don't include it

a coffee table book hahahahah. it's a PDF. the NFL made it easily searchable posting it that way.

and it's on the NFL site. and even more specifically it's the operations.nfl.com site.

https://operations.nfl.com/updates/the-game/2022-nfl-record-and-fact-book/
it's a kids book.. there is a reason why you have to download it . parody

you really have no idea what youre talking about. it's downloadable because it's over 700 pages.
no idea about what.. your statement doesn't help you one bit

you cant even keep your opinion straight. first it was coffee table book then it was a kids book. youve lost the plot completely.

Yup he changes his argument every time in the short time I've been here. Like yesterday he was saying QB rating dictates how well a QB plays and is a main stat that says so yet he's spent a lot of time hating on a QB with one of the best ratings in the league. He makes no sense imo. A typing contradiction.
what change lol

so many lies in that post lol
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Who would you all think the top pure pocket passers are in the NFL today?

You would have to define pure pocket passer. I see a potential 100+ page debate here
Please continue..
Originally posted by 16to87:
Team sport, team win

Except when the team loses, the QB usually gets the blame.
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