Are Wins a QB stat?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by boast:
i believe the debate was "are Wins a QB stat"

the NFL record book appears to prove that they are a QB stat.

Thanks, edited.

If we acknowledge they are an official stat kept by the NFL why is this even an open question for debate? It's settled.

a coffee table book is not official. if it was official it would be on the site..there is a reason why they don't include it

a coffee table book hahahahah. it's a PDF. the NFL made it easily searchable posting it that way.

and it's on the NFL site. and even more specifically it's the operations.nfl.com site.

https://operations.nfl.com/updates/the-game/2022-nfl-record-and-fact-book/

it's a kids book.. there is a reason why you have to download it . parody

you really have no idea what youre talking about. it's downloadable because it's over 700 pages.

no idea about what.. your statement doesn't help you one bit

you cant even keep your opinion straight. first it was coffee table book then it was a kids book. youve lost the plot completely.

this maybe be the most ignorant post here, since when is giving multiple descriptions make it any less lol

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Who would you all think the top pure pocket passers are in the NFL today?

You would have to define pure pocket passer. I see a potential 100+ page debate here
Please continue..

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
So when certain guys like 49AT blame Jimmy for not getting us a super bowl isn't that hypocrisy? It's a team stat. Me, I think the defense could've played better but at the end of the day Jimmy had his chances and failed. It is his L. Right?

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
The argument is not whether it's a stat, it's whether it's a good one. It's annoying when posters dismiss any conversation about the stat's value by saying "well it IS a stat."

Most posters know it IS a stat. A good portion of us think it's a dumb stat.

Major League Baseball analysts have majorly discredited Wins for pitchers as a good stat. I feel the same way about wins for pitchers as I do for quarterbacks.

Originally posted by boast:
ehhh this ignores and kind of whitewashes the fact there are more than a few posters that have specifically claimed it's NOT a QB stat. it might not have been you but this debate definitely existed.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
The argument is not whether it's a stat, it's whether it's a good one. It's annoying when posters dismiss any conversation about the stat's value by saying "well it IS a stat."

Most posters know it IS a stat. A good portion of us think it's a dumb stat.

Major League Baseball analysts have majorly discredited Wins for pitchers as a good stat. I feel the same way about wins for pitchers as I do for quarterbacks.

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
So when certain guys like 49AT blame Jimmy for not getting us a super bowl isn't that hypocrisy? It's a team stat. Me, I think the defense could've played better but at the end of the day Jimmy had his chances and failed. It is his L. Right?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
So when certain guys like 49AT blame Jimmy for not getting us a super bowl isn't that hypocrisy? It's a team stat. Me, I think the defense could've played better but at the end of the day Jimmy had his chances and failed. It is his L. Right?

It's only contradicting like that for you, since you want to use/assign W/L as an individual stat

Originally posted by Dshearn:
I am kinda shocked that people are leaning more yes versus solid no.

You really don't see that in other forums...... I stand corrected from when I said people don't give w/l record to the QB.... it appears at least here they do.

I still think that is a terrible practice and makes no sense to give a W or a l to a sole player because of all the variables....but I was I was clearly wrong to believe that most posters saw it that way.

The following is a list of the top National Football League (NFL) quarterbacks in regular season wins. In the NFL, the starting quarterback is the only position that is credited with records of wins and losses.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Yes QB is involved in your wins. Which is why Brock Purdy and Jimmy G can do it. While a long string of QB's in that same system have not been able to do it.

People getting triggered by pointing out that Brock wins games seems so weird.

Lol you mean Jimmy. Brocks been awesome and has contributed a lot in that area.

Is it a stat for QBs? Sure, but it's deeper than that. If it that mattered that much, Tebow would be still playing and same with Sanchez. If you wanna argue that Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson was the reason for their respective teams success than you don't understand what you're talking about it.

Peyton Manning and Mark Sanchez aren't the same lol.