SF 49ERS at Eagles Pregame Thread - 2022 Season Conference Final

Offenses do not fair well running up the middle on us. Jimmie Ward and Mooney ward are solid run defenders on the outside. If I was Demeco, I would keep Hufanga in the box on early downs and in the redzone and have him spy Hurts.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Offenses do not fair well running up the middle on us. Jimmie Ward and Mooney ward are solid run defenders on the outside. If I was Demeco, I would keep Hufanga in the box on early downs and in the redzone and have him spy Hurts.

Yes, key word S P Y !

you have to play Hurts like Harbaugh played Kaep in the Super Bowl. Put a LB on him and makes sure he gets hit every play regardless of whether he is running or throwing. Don't let him dictate the RPO rather force him into making quick decisions and hopefully he'll make mistakes.

I don't know if you guys remember but they played Terrell Suggs like a D lineman and his sole job was to chase Kaepernick regardless of whether he had the ball or not. We have to dedicate a player just for Hurts or it's gonna be a longgggg day.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Offenses do not fair well running up the middle on us. Jimmie Ward and Mooney ward are solid run defenders on the outside. If I was Demeco, I would keep Hufanga in the box on early downs and in the redzone and have him spy Hurts.

Yes, key word S P Y !

you have to play Hurts like Harbaugh played Kaep in the Super Bowl. Put a LB on him and makes sure he gets hit every play regardless of whether he is running or throwing. Don't let him dictate the RPO rather force him into making quick decisions and hopefully he'll make mistakes.

I don't know if you guys remember but they played Terrell Suggs like a D lineman and his sole job was to chase Kaepernick regardless of whether he had the ball or not. We have to dedicate a player just for Hurts or it's gonna be a longgggg day.

Yeah, we have to do that. If we can get a lot of early hits on him, it'll change the game. If he stays cleans and untouched. We are effed

Originally posted by DrEll:

Yes, key word S P Y !

you have to play Hurts like Harbaugh played Kaep in the Super Bowl. Put a LB on him and makes sure he gets hit every play regardless of whether he is running or throwing. Don't let him dictate the RPO rather force him into making quick decisions and hopefully he'll make mistakes.

I don't know if you guys remember but they played Terrell Suggs like a D lineman and his sole job was to chase Kaepernick regardless of whether he had the ball or not. We have to dedicate a player just for Hurts or it's gonna be a longgggg day.

So you're cool with letting Hurts drop 30 on us?

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
So you're cool with letting Hurts drop 30 on us?

That's probably going to be case. Brock will have to beat PHI.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
So you're cool with letting Hurts drop 30 on us?

That's probably going to be case. Brock will have to beat PHI.

All it takes is a few stops, some lucky drops, fumbles, etc and they won't drop 30 on us. The Giants were incapable of any of that. The Niners are capable to keep them around 20. Will they? Who knows. That's what coaching is for. The one good thing about our defense is that it can scare you into making a bad decision. There is a bit of an aura around them. There might be wide open receivers and running lanes, but for whatever reason some QBs throughout the year didn't take them because they were nervous about something. We have to make Jalen uncomfortable

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

So you're cool with letting Hurts drop 30 on us?

That's probably going to be case. Brock will have to beat PHI.

Probably. I just find it funny that posters think that's what we need. Yea lets just play hurts like Kap who had 370 yds of offense, 2 TDs, and put up 30 pts in the SB. Sounds good to me

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by Giedi:
As another WebZoner said, and I agree, the Eagles team reminds me of the '85 bears and their defense. We beat them in '84, but they were unstoppable in '85.

I would say not even the 49ers defense this year should be compared to the 85 Bears.

85 Bears gave up 211 first downs and 22 touchdowns with 54 take aways.
22 49ers gave up 262 first downs and 31 touchdowns with 30 take aways.
22 Philly gave up 301 first downs and 37 touchdowns with 27 takeaways.

The 85 Bears were a different animal altogether they were twice as likely to cause a turnover then for you to score on them.

Even if you adjust for the extra game the Bears were special

Bears 13.1 first downs a game and 1.37 tds with 3.37 takeaways per-game.
49ers 15.4 first downs a game and 1.8 tds with 1.7 takeaways per-game.
Philly 17.7 first downs a game and 2.2 tds with 1.5 takeaways per-game.

We don't need to be comparing anyone to that Bears defense. Hell if the Bears could out right fight with WRs 10 yards down the field like DBs can today and be able to just lay you out to break up passes like they could nobody might have scored on them.

Agree, its tough to field a defense like the '84-'85 Bears nowadays with the cap and free agency doing so much damage to team depth. The '85 bear defense was a very deep and talented bunch, and their run offense complemented their defense and special teams. It was another era in the NFL when players can actually hit versus today which is (in a sense) like basketball or flag football.

As for the 2022 49er and Eagle defenses, they are very similar. They essentially are nickle defenses that excell in pressuring the passer and covering the recievers. Gone are the days that WRs fear going over the middle. Nowadays those types of slobberknocker hits result in first downs or 15 yard personal fouls.

If I was to redesign the 49er defense, it would be more along the line of the Eagles defense. Strong DLine and DB corps, and a decent-to-good LB corps. Our defense is outstanding DLine, Outstanding LBs, but decent-to-good DBs. One reason is our high scoring offense.

I predict Purdy, next year, will be throwing for 300 yards a game and scoring, on average, in the mid to high 30''s and opposing teams will have to pass to catch up to the 49ers next year. They won't be running much against us next year, so I'll put less resources on the LB squad and more on the DLine and DB squad. Just my thoughts.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Offenses do not fair well running up the middle on us. Jimmie Ward and Mooney ward are solid run defenders on the outside. If I was Demeco, I would keep Hufanga in the box on early downs and in the redzone and have him spy Hurts.

Yes, key word S P Y !

you have to play Hurts like Harbaugh played Kaep in the Super Bowl. Put a LB on him and makes sure he gets hit every play regardless of whether he is running or throwing. Don't let him dictate the RPO rather force him into making quick decisions and hopefully he'll make mistakes.

I don't know if you guys remember but they played Terrell Suggs like a D lineman and his sole job was to chase Kaepernick regardless of whether he had the ball or not. We have to dedicate a player just for Hurts or it's gonna be a longgggg day.

If you are thinking LB as the spy, maybe Greenlaw?

key to our O is the outside zone, we get that working then we win... OL has to ball out and dominate the way the Bengals OL did last week

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
So you're cool with letting Hurts drop 30 on us?

That's probably going to be case. Brock will have to beat PHI.

Probably. I just find it funny that posters think that's what we need. Yea lets just play hurts like Kap who had 370 yds of offense, 2 TDs, and put up 30 pts in the SB. Sounds good to me

Oh come on. Did you watch that game ? The Ravens game plan threw us out of our comfort zone. We were forced to play a traditional type offense relying on a run game and Kaep's arm. The difference was that our offense had a lot more star power than the Eagles offense does. We had Gore, Vernon Davis, Randy Moss, and Crabtree along with the best oline on the league so Kaep could play catch up.

I think if you eliminate Hurts the Eagles are not that formidable bc their only real threat IMO is AJ Brown.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
key to our O is the outside zone, we get that working then we win... OL has to ball out and dominate the way the Bengals OL did last week

Which was amazing with all the injuries they had on their Oline.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Offenses do not fair well running up the middle on us. Jimmie Ward and Mooney ward are solid run defenders on the outside. If I was Demeco, I would keep Hufanga in the box on early downs and in the redzone and have him spy Hurts.

Yes, key word S P Y !

you have to play Hurts like Harbaugh played Kaep in the Super Bowl. Put a LB on him and makes sure he gets hit every play regardless of whether he is running or throwing. Don't let him dictate the RPO rather force him into making quick decisions and hopefully he'll make mistakes.

I don't know if you guys remember but they played Terrell Suggs like a D lineman and his sole job was to chase Kaepernick regardless of whether he had the ball or not. We have to dedicate a player just for Hurts or it's gonna be a longgggg day.

If you are thinking LB as the spy, maybe Greenlaw?

Maybe. You'd hate to waste talent like Greenlaw or Warner on spying only bc they offer so much more. Maybe depending on the package Aziz or a DB…

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Offenses do not fair well running up the middle on us. Jimmie Ward and Mooney ward are solid run defenders on the outside. If I was Demeco, I would keep Hufanga in the box on early downs and in the redzone and have him spy Hurts.

Yes, key word S P Y !

you have to play Hurts like Harbaugh played Kaep in the Super Bowl. Put a LB on him and makes sure he gets hit every play regardless of whether he is running or throwing. Don't let him dictate the RPO rather force him into making quick decisions and hopefully he'll make mistakes.

I don't know if you guys remember but they played Terrell Suggs like a D lineman and his sole job was to chase Kaepernick regardless of whether he had the ball or not. We have to dedicate a player just for Hurts or it's gonna be a longgggg day.

If you are thinking LB as the spy, maybe Greenlaw?

Maybe. You'd hate to waste talent like Greenlaw or Warner on spying only bc they offer so much more. Maybe depending on the package Aziz or a DB…

I was thinking Hufanga. Even though he isn't a great tackler, I think he can do enough to slow him down so the boys can swarm.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Offenses do not fair well running up the middle on us. Jimmie Ward and Mooney ward are solid run defenders on the outside. If I was Demeco, I would keep Hufanga in the box on early downs and in the redzone and have him spy Hurts.

Yes, key word S P Y !

you have to play Hurts like Harbaugh played Kaep in the Super Bowl. Put a LB on him and makes sure he gets hit every play regardless of whether he is running or throwing. Don't let him dictate the RPO rather force him into making quick decisions and hopefully he'll make mistakes.

I don't know if you guys remember but they played Terrell Suggs like a D lineman and his sole job was to chase Kaepernick regardless of whether he had the ball or not. We have to dedicate a player just for Hurts or it's gonna be a longgggg day.

If you are thinking LB as the spy, maybe Greenlaw?

Maybe. You'd hate to waste talent like Greenlaw or Warner on spying only bc they offer so much more. Maybe depending on the package Aziz or a DB…

A QB spy isnt useless...he still occupies the middle of the field and takes away some routes