SF 49ERS at Eagles Pregame Thread - 2022 Season Conference Final

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Tbh, this is the true superbowl. These teams are built so complete that whoever gets out of this wins the superbowl imo

Bengals and chiefs of course have insane QBs but both have flaws that both Philly and us match up well against, plus Mahomes is a little banged up.

If defense is locked in and allow under 20 points, we win this. Eagles have a good defense for sure, but not as good as Dallas, and Purdy handled that solid all things considered.

I know your defense is really good. I would be shocked if you held us under 20 points. I think the RPO causes confusion on defense. Hurts is a master at it. But you do have the best linebackers in the game. Werner is that dude. But we can get behind your linebackers with AJ brown and Smith. Only thing Dallas has better on defense is linebackers. We don't have Micah Parsons but we have Hassan Reddick with 17 and half sacks. 5 forced fumbles. He's a game wrecker and very hard to block. Our d line is much better. Secondary is much better. Especially with CGJ back and hopefully Maddox back this week our slot corner. It's been along time since we had our secondary in full. When we had everyone in place we was leading the league in interceptions and turnovers. CGJ had 6 interceptions when he got hurt. We finally got him back. But maddox been out.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
We've been in three of the last four NFCCG. This is old hat to us and we've won more road playoff games than anyone in the NFC during that timespan. We are a five time champ so we are a different animal and it's gonna be a fight this Sunday afternoon

The sooner you realize this the less the shock will be once the war breaks out in six days

🙄

This is our 6th NFC title game in the last 12 years, yet we have zero Super Bowl wins, so there really shouldn't be any bragging going on. We need to prove we can finish the job.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 5Jan2003:
Eagles are just another team and their fans that come on here are just random dudes.

Be nice 5Jan, their fans are being good sports.

If they leave now we won't be able to enjoy their salty tears come Monday.

How much of the eagles sack rate is due to their amazing secondary?

Obviously their line is great but maybe they have a "generational quality" secondary and their above average dline feeds off that? Or both their dline and secondary together as pass defense is crazy crazy good.

Originally posted by khanusma:
I don't think this is true unfortunately. He has the best deep throw in the league arguably people say. Watch what we wish for haha!

NINERS!! DE FENSE! DE FENSE! DE FENSE!

Last year this was definately true. But this year Hurts has really evolved in his passing game. I really had questions coming into this season after the Bucs lost last year in the playoffs. But he has answered all questions and was in talks as mvp with Maholmes until he got hurt. He's got a great deep ball and 2 big weapons with AJ Brown who reminds me of a young version of TO. And Devonta Smith who route running is so good. He looks small but he plays big

Originally posted by Midbay:
If they leave now we won't be able to enjoy their salty tears come Monday.

It's all good. Of course we want to win. But we went to 5 nfc championship games with Mcnabb and Reid and only 1 SB appearance which we lost in a heart break to Brady. That one hurt.

Originally posted by khanusma:
How much of the eagles sack rate is due to their amazing secondary?

Obviously their line is great but maybe they have a "generational quality" secondary and their above average dline feeds off that? Or both their dline and secondary together as pass defense is crazy crazy good.

I think it's a little of both. Most teams have a couple of guys to pass rush. So you can scheme and double those great players. But we have the whole d line coming 8 deep. Rotating pass rushers in and out. It's hard to block that. But the corners are great so we get coverage sacks too.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Eaglesfan32:
Congratulations on your big win vs the Cowboys. When Cowboys lose America wins lol. I've been watching football since the mid 80's Randall Cunningham days. Always cheered you guys on when you played the Cowboys in the playoffs. Loved the Ronnie Lott days. That guy knocked people heads off. That was the best time of football. Anyway this will be a heavyweight title bout sunday. A brawl in the trenches. Looking forward to a great game. Purdy has been amazing what he has done as a 7th round pick. Such poise and his passes under fire have been great. Should be a fun one.

Good luck to you guys, It should be fun Sunday. May the best team win.

We will, thanks

Originally posted by Eaglesfan32:
I think it's a little of both. Most teams have a couple of guys to pass rush. So you can scheme and double those great players. But we have the whole d line coming 8 deep. Rotating pass rushers in and out. It's hard to block that. But the corners are great so we get coverage sacks too.

For sure. So it sounds like not really more than any other team. It's balanced. Got it. You also blitz at 26% and we do the same i think. Maybe 28%. Do you know the % of sacks when you blitz vs when you don't? I want to try and find that for both you and us but especially you.

Originally posted by Eaglesfan32:
Last year this was definately true. But this year Hurts has really evolved in his passing game. I really had questions coming into this season after the Bucs lost last year in the playoffs. But he has answered all questions and was in talks as mvp with Maholmes until he got hurt. He's got a great deep ball and 2 big weapons with AJ Brown who reminds me of a young version of TO. And Devonta Smith who route running is so good. He looks small but he plays big

I'm happy he didn't play well against the cowboys though early in the season. And there were many games where he didn't put the other team away when he could have. Those are important things for us 49ers fans to be aware of as we analyzing all of this.

Originally posted by khanusma:

Originally posted by Eaglesfan32:
I think it's a little of both. Most teams have a couple of guys to pass rush. So you can scheme and double those great players. But we have the whole d line coming 8 deep. Rotating pass rushers in and out. It's hard to block that. But the corners are great so we get coverage sacks too.

For sure. So it sounds like not really more than any other team. It's balanced. Got it. You also blitz at 26% and we do the same i think. Maybe 28%. Do you know the % of sacks when you blitz vs when you don't? I want to try and find that for both you and us but especially you.

Well this not good for us haha...

In their last eight games, the Eagles have blitzed on just 14.2% of opponent pass plays and amassed 42 sacks. For the year, they've blitzed just 19.9%, which is the 12th-lowest blitz percentage in the league. The defense has notched 32 sacks in the last five games.

One thing I noticed about their defense is you can run on them specially on the flat. I saw zeke a couple of times beat their DEs and just ran outside for a good gain.

For me this is a bit of a fratricidal clash. Obviously I am a 49ers fan, and have been for over 35 years, and I want us to win, bad. But I am also a Philadelphia fan. Not the Eagles. The city. I lived there in the early 90s for a couple of years, including the 1993 Phillies almost Cinderella run to the WS title, and I have a spot for all things Philly ever since. Including the Eagles, when we are not in the picture. I was already a 9ers fan ever since I watched Montana throw to Rice in a crappy satellite broadcast in the OId Country and I was hooked. By the time I came to Britain, and then had that two year stint in the US, I was already a 9ers fan. You don't change teams. But the other sports? All Philly, especially in baseball. The Eagles? Not quite a "second team", a true fan doesn't have those in my book. But a least bad outcome, if we're out ourselves.

BTW, to tie up to an earlier discussion a few pages up about LFF being dangerous and all that. I have watched us play away there in the past, and had no issues. That may be because I know the city well, and in the stadium I was wearing 9ers colours and a Phillies cap (both red, so easy to do) and drew funny (as in "amused, odd") looks. But never felt unsafe. Indeed, I love Philadelphia fans and am proud to be an honorary member. They get a lot of misconceived and misinformed bad press (Santa and snowballs, batteries etc). The percentage of bad fans is the same everywhere, including in SF. There are tens of thousands of people in the stadium, mostly young men, many drunk, all emotional. Of course stuff will happen. You have to watch your step, wherever you are. The only safe stadia are Japanese baseball ones (and I've been in those and they are a total hoot), but that's Japan. It's different. What Philly fans have above everyone else, I think, is that they demand their own teams to measure up. They won't take crap easily, they especially resent cheap crap. Hence the booing. Obviously they don't get success all that often (which city does?) and indeed they get rather less for a city represented in all major sports (including soccer now). Hence they are especially embittered. They demand quality, they get mostly crap. So, they have this fantastic combination of gallows humour, short fuses (with their own teams) and explosive emotion when things may be going well. I know there are many cities that claim to have the loudest fans (KC, Seattle etc) but CBP during that first home playoff game against Atlanta last October looked and sounded like a volcano of pent-up emotion. You could see even from TV that the Braves players wanted no part of it. But we've been like this ourselves in the past. I travelled from Europe for the Saints playoff game, again the first in a decade, in 2011-2. That's the Smith-to-Davis pass with 14 seconds game. The whole match Candlestick was not just roaring - it was something primeval. It was a growl. I lost my voice for two days after. I like this kind of fandom, and whatever you guys think of them, Philly fans have it in spades.

Long story short. I want us to win. Bad. I will be miserable if we don't. But if we do lose (touch wood) will it be as misery inducing as losing to Dallas, the Giants, or GB, or even Seattle (which I only consider a junior rivalry, considering my age)? No way. But let's win please.

T-minus 4 days.

This is going to be tough and I won't be surprised if we lose but why are alot of Eagles fans using the Giants game as an example of why they are going to destroy us? We are not the Giants. The Cowboy fans did the samething after they destroyed the Bucs. The Bucs are not a good football team and neither are the Giants. The Giants had Richie James as their go to WR. Their whole offense is Barkley. The only reason they moved the ball so good in their WC game was because they were faciing a worst defense in the league. The Giants were 3-6-1 in their last 10 regular season games. It's like us using the Seahawks game as an example of why the Cowboys and Eagles don't stand a chance against us.

There is only 3 good teams in the NFC this season and we just beat 1 of them. The other two are facing off this Sunday in Philly. Now like I said the Eagles should be favored, They are at home and more fresh and if they win it won't shock me at all. But don't try comparing us to the Giants. It's insulting.