SF 49ERS at Eagles Pregame Thread - 2022 Season Conference Final

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Pass rush win rate according to PFF

49ers
Nick Bosa- 24.0%
Charles Omenihu- 22.0%
Samson Ebukam- 15.2%
Arik Armstead- 13.2%
Jordan Willis- 10.4%

Eagles
Brandon Graham- 23.3%
Haason Reddick- 19.9%
Javon Hargrave- 17.1%
Josh Sweat- 15.7%
Fletcher Cox- 11.5%

This is interesting

Wouldn't mind looking at graham to platoon with Jackson this offseason on a short deal .

I know that pressure is pressure and that they have a top pass rush, but the more I look into it - it's not as impressive as I originally was led to believe from the stat sheet.

we will find out on Sunday, but I just have this feeling everyone is going to be surprised at how we will attack these guys.

Yeah I posted the pass rush win rate in the defensive line thread, and it's not a huge difference. Our dudes are applying plenty of pressure, just the Philly guys are getting sacks more frequently. You obviously want the sacks, but pressures and hurries are nearly as important:

Team pass rush win rate

1. Philadelphia Eagles, 52%
2. Dallas Cowboys, 52%
3. Miami Dolphins, 50%
4. Arizona Cardinals, 47%
5. San Francisco 49ers, 46%

They are a little better than us, but not by much. I believe Dallas has a higher pressure rate than them.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by Eli_23:
We need to shred their Defense apart with our run game. CMC needs 2 TDs on the ground and I wanna see Purdy with 3 TD passes using play action.

49ers Win 38-24

Let's hope so.

This could be a long day If we can't get the run game going.

A'Shawn Robinson isn't walking thru that door

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Eagles have 70 sacks this season

Upon further examination 23 of those came in 3 games

47 sacks in 14 games is still very impressive but not nearly as impressive as that 70 number.

— Jessie🎙 (@JNay_LSS) January 26, 2023

I wonder what the team breakdown of that is. Like who did they do it against? I agree - their sack total is impressive regardless.

Washington, Giants, and New Orleans

https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles-team-game-log?season=2022&seasonType=post&category=defense

Stealing this post NY.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Pass rush win rate according to PFF

49ers
Nick Bosa- 24.0%
Charles Omenihu- 22.0%
Samson Ebukam- 15.2%
Arik Armstead- 13.2%
Jordan Willis- 10.4%

Eagles
Brandon Graham- 23.3%
Haason Reddick- 19.9%
Javon Hargrave- 17.1%
Josh Sweat- 15.7%
Fletcher Cox- 11.5%

This is interesting

Wouldn't mind looking at graham to platoon with Jackson this offseason on a short deal .

I know that pressure is pressure and that they have a top pass rush, but the more I look into it - it's not as impressive as I originally was led to believe from the stat sheet.

we will find out on Sunday, but I just have this feeling everyone is going to be surprised at how we will attack these guys

Also consider;
Offensive Line Rankings for the final 4 teams. This article was updated ahead of the AFC and NFC Conference Championship games. The metrics you see here are all from the 2022-23 NFL season. With only two games left before the Super Bowl, let's take a look at the four remaining offensive lines and how they stack up against each other.

#1: Philadelphia Eagles - (# 1 in NFL)

Starting Five: LT Jordan Mailata, LG Landon Dickerson, C Jason Kelce, RG Isaac Seumalo, RT Lane Johnson

A massive part of the Eagles' overwhelming success this season has been the elite play of their offensive line. No matter what metric you use, they're at or near the top of the league, particularly in run-blocking. Miles Sanders ran for a career-high 1,269 yards this season, and much of it came from his 837 yards before contact which led all running backs.
The Eagles ran for 6.1 YPC against the Giants last week and their offensive line produced 150 yards before contact. There have been six instances this season of a team having 150 yards before contact, and three of them have been the Eagles. Overall, the Eagles ranked third in the NFL with 1,817 yards before contact this season.
The seemingly immortal Jason Kelce has paved the way. He ranks second among all centers in PFF's grading as he didn't allow a sack all season and was a road-grader in run-blocking all year. Kelce is a future first ballot Hall of Famer regardless of how the rest of this year goes – he has five First-Team All-Pro nods and a Super Bowl championship.
Fellow veteran Lane Johnson joins him as one of the best players at his position. Johnson, a three-time All-Pro tackle, has been fighting through a groin injury, but it impressively hasn't affected his on-field performance very much. His matchup with elite 49ers edge rusher Nick Bosa is must-watch television this week.
Jordan Mailata and Landon Dickerson are the new generation of elite Philly offensive linemen and they lock down the left side. Meanwhile, Isaac Seumalo is the least discussed of the bunch, but he's had a great year as well. This team has experienced good fortune in the injury department as all five offensive linemen have logged 1,000+ snaps.

#3: San Francisco 49ers (not sure of ranking vs all NFL teams)

Starting Five: LT Trent Williams, LG Aaron Banks, C Jake Brendel, RG Spencer Burford, RT Mike McGlinchey

In my preseason offensive line rankings, I struggled with where to put the 49ers. This is ultimately a fairly average line in terms of personnel that's lifted up by the most advanced, effective blocking scheme in the league. However, the entire line is uplifted by the continued elite play by Trent "Silverback" Williams, one of the league's best players at any position.
Williams might be the best offensive lineman I've ever watched. Last week's effort was just the latest installment for him as he allowed Micah Parsons to generate just one pressure on 15 pass-blocking snaps against him. Williams has been PFF's top-graded offensive tackle for three years in a row, and watching him steamroll would-be tacklers in the open field is mesmerizing.
The rest of the offensive line doesn't hold a candle to Williams. Mike McGlinchey is the best of the rest, but he allowed six sacks this season per PFF and has graded out as an average offensive tackle for his entire career. McGlinchey struggled last week as he allowed five pressures against the Cowboys, and his play will be crucial to corralling Philly's dominant pass rush.
The interior is filled with much more average play in Aaron Banks, Spencer Burford, and Jake Brendel. None of the three are a true liability, but the retirement of Alex Mack and the free agency departure of Laken Tomlinson left the interior a bit barren. Still, it hasn't mattered much to the overall production of the unit.
The 49ers finished the regular season ranked top ten in PFF's pass and run-blocking metrics, adjusted line yards, and adjusted sack rate. They also ranked second in pressure rate allowed and eighth in yards before contact. Kyle Shanahan's blocking scheme is arguably second to none in the NFL, and this offensive line continues to be a strength for the 49ers.

Source: https://www.lineups.com/articles/nfl-offensive-line-rankings

https://youtu.be/7KCnkqhGdPQ
CMCs mom seems like a blast to hang out with. Hahah this is the podcast of when CMC was traddd to the niners. So cool how hyped she was. His dad was wearing niner shirts under his clothing because he wanted him to go to the bay!

also, I didn't know that the bills were trying to get
him.

Originally posted by tankle104:
https://youtu.be/7KCnkqhGdPQ
CMCs mom seems like a blast to hang out with.

Zach Wilson vibes here ..

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:
https://youtu.be/7KCnkqhGdPQ
CMCs mom seems like a blast to hang out with.

Zach Wilson vibes here ..

I've done worse… 😈

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Imagine being from a city where they idolize and have a statue of a fictional character

Maybe we should have a statue of Dirty Harry!

Originally posted by tankle104:
https://youtu.be/7KCnkqhGdPQ
CMCs mom seems like a blast to hang out with. Hahah this is the podcast of when CMC was traddd to the niners. So cool how hyped she was. His dad was wearing niner shirts under his clothing because he wanted him to go to the bay!

also, I didn't know that the bills were trying to get
him.

Because CMCs mom and dad are BEST FRIENDS with the Sr Shanahan's. They hang out a lot together. For both sides a dream.
But yeah, I bet it's fun to get them together.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Pass rush win rate according to PFF

49ers
Nick Bosa- 24.0%
Charles Omenihu- 22.0%
Samson Ebukam- 15.2%
Arik Armstead- 13.2%
Jordan Willis- 10.4%

Eagles
Brandon Graham- 23.3%
Haason Reddick- 19.9%
Javon Hargrave- 17.1%
Josh Sweat- 15.7%
Fletcher Cox- 11.5%

This is interesting

Wouldn't mind looking at graham to platoon with Jackson this offseason on a short deal .

I know that pressure is pressure and that they have a top pass rush, but the more I look into it - it's not as impressive as I originally was led to believe from the stat sheet.

we will find out on Sunday, but I just have this feeling everyone is going to be surprised at how we will attack these guys.

It's impressive and there's a reason why only 2 teams have had more than them in a season with another team tied for that amount.

Funny thing is...the team in first place was the 84 Bears(who lost to the 49ers in the NFCCG)

So while it's impressive it doesn't mean every offense they play automatically loses the game playing them. I believe on top of having talented players they tend to rush with 5 guys the bulk of the time. This tends to create 1 on 1 matchups vs opposing OL so it's up to our guys to block their ass off and up to Brock to find the matchup he wants and get the ball there quickly.

It won't be easy but the easiest way to hold that pass rush back or any...stay out of 3rd and long situations. our play on 1st and 2nd down will be absolutely critical and our running game has to be on point. Stay in 3rd and 3 or less and we have a good chance to keep that pass rush at bay.

We're gonna have to play a VERY clean game on both sides of the ball to win this one imo. Hopefully our boys are up to the challenge.

The sack total is the product of a soft schedule and blowing team out in Sept / Oct, putting them chasing the game for 3 quarters in pass every down mode.

You can't sack a CMC run play or a quick let's get YAC throw.

Originally posted by BirdRick2112:
Also consider;
Offensive Line Rankings for the final 4 teams. This article was updated ahead of the AFC and NFC Conference Championship games. The metrics you see here are all from the 2022-23 NFL season. With only two games left before the Super Bowl, let's take a look at the four remaining offensive lines and how they stack up against each other.

#1: Philadelphia Eagles - (# 1 in NFL)

Starting Five: LT Jordan Mailata, LG Landon Dickerson, C Jason Kelce, RG Isaac Seumalo, RT Lane Johnson

A massive part of the Eagles' overwhelming success this season has been the elite play of their offensive line. No matter what metric you use, they're at or near the top of the league, particularly in run-blocking. Miles Sanders ran for a career-high 1,269 yards this season, and much of it came from his 837 yards before contact which led all running backs.
The Eagles ran for 6.1 YPC against the Giants last week and their offensive line produced 150 yards before contact. There have been six instances this season of a team having 150 yards before contact, and three of them have been the Eagles. Overall, the Eagles ranked third in the NFL with 1,817 yards before contact this season.
The seemingly immortal Jason Kelce has paved the way. He ranks second among all centers in PFF's grading as he didn't allow a sack all season and was a road-grader in run-blocking all year. Kelce is a future first ballot Hall of Famer regardless of how the rest of this year goes – he has five First-Team All-Pro nods and a Super Bowl championship.
Fellow veteran Lane Johnson joins him as one of the best players at his position. Johnson, a three-time All-Pro tackle, has been fighting through a groin injury, but it impressively hasn't affected his on-field performance very much. His matchup with elite 49ers edge rusher Nick Bosa is must-watch television this week.
Jordan Mailata and Landon Dickerson are the new generation of elite Philly offensive linemen and they lock down the left side. Meanwhile, Isaac Seumalo is the least discussed of the bunch, but he's had a great year as well. This team has experienced good fortune in the injury department as all five offensive linemen have logged 1,000+ snaps.

#3: San Francisco 49ers (not sure of ranking vs all NFL teams)

Starting Five: LT Trent Williams, LG Aaron Banks, C Jake Brendel, RG Spencer Burford, RT Mike McGlinchey

In my preseason offensive line rankings, I struggled with where to put the 49ers. This is ultimately a fairly average line in terms of personnel that's lifted up by the most advanced, effective blocking scheme in the league. However, the entire line is uplifted by the continued elite play by Trent "Silverback" Williams, one of the league's best players at any position.
Williams might be the best offensive lineman I've ever watched. Last week's effort was just the latest installment for him as he allowed Micah Parsons to generate just one pressure on 15 pass-blocking snaps against him. Williams has been PFF's top-graded offensive tackle for three years in a row, and watching him steamroll would-be tacklers in the open field is mesmerizing.
The rest of the offensive line doesn't hold a candle to Williams. Mike McGlinchey is the best of the rest, but he allowed six sacks this season per PFF and has graded out as an average offensive tackle for his entire career. McGlinchey struggled last week as he allowed five pressures against the Cowboys, and his play will be crucial to corralling Philly's dominant pass rush.
The interior is filled with much more average play in Aaron Banks, Spencer Burford, and Jake Brendel. None of the three are a true liability, but the retirement of Alex Mack and the free agency departure of Laken Tomlinson left the interior a bit barren. Still, it hasn't mattered much to the overall production of the unit.
The 49ers finished the regular season ranked top ten in PFF's pass and run-blocking metrics, adjusted line yards, and adjusted sack rate. They also ranked second in pressure rate allowed and eighth in yards before contact. Kyle Shanahan's blocking scheme is arguably second to none in the NFL, and this offensive line continues to be a strength for the 49ers.

Source: https://www.lineups.com/articles/nfl-offensive-line-rankings

Should be an interesting matchup across the board. PHI is stacked

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Imagine being from a city where they idolize and have a statue of a fictional character

Maybe we should have a statue of Dirty Harry!

Originally posted by tankle104:
Greg Roman is a joke of an OC. His style is so so outdated and archaic. He may be decent in the run game but his pass game is awful. His WRs don't even have option routes etc. lol it's straight 70s style. His WR group only had like 1400 yards this year combined.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Greg Roman is a joke of an OC. His style is so so outdated and archaic. He may be decent in the run game but his pass game is awful. His WRs don't even have option routes etc. lol it's straight 70s style. His WR group only had like 1400 yards this year combined.

Yea as far as I'm concerned he lost us the SB against the Ravens and the chance to go to the SB when we played the Seabirds. He sucks! JMHO.

Originally posted by Youngbuck17:
So you're advocating playing dirty in order to win....cool

We do what we have to do.