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Originally posted by ninerfan4life:

Also, our DVOA was better the past 2 games than it's been most of the season.:

WC game



Divisional game

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by BirdRick2112:
Also consider;
Offensive Line Rankings for the final 4 teams. This article was updated ahead of the AFC and NFC Conference Championship games. The metrics you see here are all from the 2022-23 NFL season. With only two games left before the Super Bowl, let's take a look at the four remaining offensive lines and how they stack up against each other.

#1: Philadelphia Eagles - (# 1 in NFL)

Starting Five: LT Jordan Mailata, LG Landon Dickerson, C Jason Kelce, RG Isaac Seumalo, RT Lane Johnson

A massive part of the Eagles' overwhelming success this season has been the elite play of their offensive line. No matter what metric you use, they're at or near the top of the league, particularly in run-blocking. Miles Sanders ran for a career-high 1,269 yards this season, and much of it came from his 837 yards before contact which led all running backs.
The Eagles ran for 6.1 YPC against the Giants last week and their offensive line produced 150 yards before contact. There have been six instances this season of a team having 150 yards before contact, and three of them have been the Eagles. Overall, the Eagles ranked third in the NFL with 1,817 yards before contact this season.
The seemingly immortal Jason Kelce has paved the way. He ranks second among all centers in PFF's grading as he didn't allow a sack all season and was a road-grader in run-blocking all year. Kelce is a future first ballot Hall of Famer regardless of how the rest of this year goes – he has five First-Team All-Pro nods and a Super Bowl championship.
Fellow veteran Lane Johnson joins him as one of the best players at his position. Johnson, a three-time All-Pro tackle, has been fighting through a groin injury, but it impressively hasn't affected his on-field performance very much. His matchup with elite 49ers edge rusher Nick Bosa is must-watch television this week.
Jordan Mailata and Landon Dickerson are the new generation of elite Philly offensive linemen and they lock down the left side. Meanwhile, Isaac Seumalo is the least discussed of the bunch, but he's had a great year as well. This team has experienced good fortune in the injury department as all five offensive linemen have logged 1,000+ snaps.

#3: San Francisco 49ers (not sure of ranking vs all NFL teams)

Starting Five: LT Trent Williams, LG Aaron Banks, C Jake Brendel, RG Spencer Burford, RT Mike McGlinchey

In my preseason offensive line rankings, I struggled with where to put the 49ers. This is ultimately a fairly average line in terms of personnel that's lifted up by the most advanced, effective blocking scheme in the league. However, the entire line is uplifted by the continued elite play by Trent "Silverback" Williams, one of the league's best players at any position.
Williams might be the best offensive lineman I've ever watched. Last week's effort was just the latest installment for him as he allowed Micah Parsons to generate just one pressure on 15 pass-blocking snaps against him. Williams has been PFF's top-graded offensive tackle for three years in a row, and watching him steamroll would-be tacklers in the open field is mesmerizing.
The rest of the offensive line doesn't hold a candle to Williams. Mike McGlinchey is the best of the rest, but he allowed six sacks this season per PFF and has graded out as an average offensive tackle for his entire career. McGlinchey struggled last week as he allowed five pressures against the Cowboys, and his play will be crucial to corralling Philly's dominant pass rush.
The interior is filled with much more average play in Aaron Banks, Spencer Burford, and Jake Brendel. None of the three are a true liability, but the retirement of Alex Mack and the free agency departure of Laken Tomlinson left the interior a bit barren. Still, it hasn't mattered much to the overall production of the unit.
The 49ers finished the regular season ranked top ten in PFF's pass and run-blocking metrics, adjusted line yards, and adjusted sack rate. They also ranked second in pressure rate allowed and eighth in yards before contact. Kyle Shanahan's blocking scheme is arguably second to none in the NFL, and this offensive line continues to be a strength for the 49ers.

Source: https://www.lineups.com/articles/nfl-offensive-line-rankings

Should be an interesting matchup across the board. PHI is stacked

Bosa vs Lane Johnson. The very best vs the very best. Gotta love it!
More media Philly love fest…man these eagles fans trying to push the whole "no respect" crap is pretty hilarious.

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This is such an important game for me. I've lived in South Jersey until I was 19 in Eagles country. While they went to 4 straight NFCCG and a superbowl I was in highschool. The Niners really sucked then. I have so many friends and family who are eagles fans that ragged on me for years. I've dreamed of this moment. The NFCCG. The furthest game both of these teams could play in the playoffs. I've dreamed of knocking them out on this stage. I would relive all the early years again if it meant knocking them out in this game. Can we do it? CAN WE PLEASE DO IT?!
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
What forum board are these Eagles fans coming from? What is your forum?

Too be honest; I haven't been on an Eagles Board in years. We had a great group on the Philly.com sight many years ago but it got taken down and the members scattered to other boards. I prefer talking football with fans of other organizations when there are games of consequence such as what we have this weekend.
Originally posted by BirdRick2112:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by BirdRick2112:
Also consider;
Offensive Line Rankings for the final 4 teams. This article was updated ahead of the AFC and NFC Conference Championship games. The metrics you see here are all from the 2022-23 NFL season. With only two games left before the Super Bowl, let's take a look at the four remaining offensive lines and how they stack up against each other.

#1: Philadelphia Eagles - (# 1 in NFL)

Starting Five: LT Jordan Mailata, LG Landon Dickerson, C Jason Kelce, RG Isaac Seumalo, RT Lane Johnson

A massive part of the Eagles' overwhelming success this season has been the elite play of their offensive line. No matter what metric you use, they're at or near the top of the league, particularly in run-blocking. Miles Sanders ran for a career-high 1,269 yards this season, and much of it came from his 837 yards before contact which led all running backs.
The Eagles ran for 6.1 YPC against the Giants last week and their offensive line produced 150 yards before contact. There have been six instances this season of a team having 150 yards before contact, and three of them have been the Eagles. Overall, the Eagles ranked third in the NFL with 1,817 yards before contact this season.
The seemingly immortal Jason Kelce has paved the way. He ranks second among all centers in PFF's grading as he didn't allow a sack all season and was a road-grader in run-blocking all year. Kelce is a future first ballot Hall of Famer regardless of how the rest of this year goes – he has five First-Team All-Pro nods and a Super Bowl championship.
Fellow veteran Lane Johnson joins him as one of the best players at his position. Johnson, a three-time All-Pro tackle, has been fighting through a groin injury, but it impressively hasn't affected his on-field performance very much. His matchup with elite 49ers edge rusher Nick Bosa is must-watch television this week.
Jordan Mailata and Landon Dickerson are the new generation of elite Philly offensive linemen and they lock down the left side. Meanwhile, Isaac Seumalo is the least discussed of the bunch, but he's had a great year as well. This team has experienced good fortune in the injury department as all five offensive linemen have logged 1,000+ snaps.

#3: San Francisco 49ers (not sure of ranking vs all NFL teams)

Starting Five: LT Trent Williams, LG Aaron Banks, C Jake Brendel, RG Spencer Burford, RT Mike McGlinchey

In my preseason offensive line rankings, I struggled with where to put the 49ers. This is ultimately a fairly average line in terms of personnel that's lifted up by the most advanced, effective blocking scheme in the league. However, the entire line is uplifted by the continued elite play by Trent "Silverback" Williams, one of the league's best players at any position.
Williams might be the best offensive lineman I've ever watched. Last week's effort was just the latest installment for him as he allowed Micah Parsons to generate just one pressure on 15 pass-blocking snaps against him. Williams has been PFF's top-graded offensive tackle for three years in a row, and watching him steamroll would-be tacklers in the open field is mesmerizing.
The rest of the offensive line doesn't hold a candle to Williams. Mike McGlinchey is the best of the rest, but he allowed six sacks this season per PFF and has graded out as an average offensive tackle for his entire career. McGlinchey struggled last week as he allowed five pressures against the Cowboys, and his play will be crucial to corralling Philly's dominant pass rush.
The interior is filled with much more average play in Aaron Banks, Spencer Burford, and Jake Brendel. None of the three are a true liability, but the retirement of Alex Mack and the free agency departure of Laken Tomlinson left the interior a bit barren. Still, it hasn't mattered much to the overall production of the unit.
The 49ers finished the regular season ranked top ten in PFF's pass and run-blocking metrics, adjusted line yards, and adjusted sack rate. They also ranked second in pressure rate allowed and eighth in yards before contact. Kyle Shanahan's blocking scheme is arguably second to none in the NFL, and this offensive line continues to be a strength for the 49ers.

Source: https://www.lineups.com/articles/nfl-offensive-line-rankings

Should be an interesting matchup across the board. PHI is stacked

Bosa vs Lane Johnson. The very best vs the very best. Gotta love it!

I thought i read that Lane hasn't given up a sack since 2020. that's insane

MM versus Reddick is a huge match up as well
Originally posted by NYniner85:
More media Philly love fest…man these eagles fans trying to push the whole "no respect" crap is pretty hilarious.

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What if those coaches want Purdy to win?
Originally posted by Patton:
Over/Under on how many dirty plays Suh has and how many penalties come from them?

I'm not a fan of Suh personally, despite him being an Eagle now. He's a dirty player and I'm not for that. I've been pleasantly surprised since they signed him, but I haven't seen any dirty plays from him. It's possible I'm wrong, but I don't believe he's gotten a personal foul yet. Also, to keep things in perspective, he was only signed half way through the year and is not an every down player. Hoping he's found Jesus and has stopped that dirty stuff.
Originally posted by tankle104:
I think we have a huge advantage that hurts is injured. I think they'll be cautious to run plays that expose him too much because everyone knows how violent and aggressive our defense is. You know they're going to hit him every Chance they get (no dirty hits - I'm not down with that). I expect him to get happy feet because he won't want to get hit.

we aren't the giants. Lol the giants are a very average to above average (on their best day). The eagles aren't chumps but I think they're going to be surprised at how well we match up

I feel like his injury is overblown. Dude is playing opossum right now imo. Pretty sure Jimmy played with a similar injury and didn't miss any time. Granted he wasn't running like Hurts but it is his throwing shoulder that is hurt right? I'd think throwing the ball puts more stress on the shoulder than running it(especially with all the rules protecting QBs)

But yes...if he runs we have got to absolutely blow him up - but have to be smart about it. I hate when we come in late/dirty stuff. We have some hitters...just make sure he regrets that run.

I doubt the Eagles are thinking about the 49ers the way their fans are. If they are...we've already won. I think both teams are super complete, physical. They have advantages in some units over us. We have advantages in some units over them. It likely comes down to execution and coaching. Hopefully Kyle and Demeco both bring their best stuff and our guys execute it to perfection.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I think we have a huge advantage that hurts is injured. I think they'll be cautious to run plays that expose him too much because everyone knows how violent and aggressive our defense is. You know they're going to hit him every Chance they get (no dirty hits - I'm not down with that). I expect him to get happy feet because he won't want to get hit.

we aren't the giants. Lol the giants are a very average to above average (on their best day). The eagles aren't chumps but I think they're going to be surprised at how well we match up

I feel like his injury is overblown. Dude is playing opossum right now imo. Pretty sure Jimmy played with a similar injury and didn't miss any time. Granted he wasn't running like Hurts but it is his throwing shoulder that is hurt right? I'd think throwing the ball puts more stress on the shoulder than running it(especially with all the rules protecting QBs)

But yes...if he runs we have got to absolutely blow him up - but have to be smart about it. I hate when we come in late/dirty stuff. We have some hitters...just make sure he regrets that run.

I doubt the Eagles are thinking about the 49ers the way their fans are. If they are...we've already won. I think both teams are super complete, physical. They have advantages in some units over us. We have advantages in some units over them. It likely comes down to execution and coaching. Hopefully Kyle and Demeco both bring their best stuff and our guys execute it to perfection.

I personally hate when the QB slides after the defender has launched and it generates a penalty. The slide was designed for QB safety and should be modified so the QB has to slide well in advance of contact. I find that penalty frustrating and the QB's abuse that rule.
Originally posted by lamontb:
I thought i read that Lane hasn't given up a sack since 2020. that's insane

MM versus Reddick is a huge match up as well

Correct. I don't know that there is another player in the NFL that I enjoy watching more. He just dominates his opponents. Future first ballot HOF for sure. He's got a serious abdominal injury that needs surgery after the season and you could see the pain in his eyes during the Giants game but he played as well as he always does. Just a total warrior. Bosa will test him like no other.
31-24 niners, deebo will go off with 150 yards and Christian will have 150 all purpose, Brock nfc championship mvp, hurts will be over 300 yards passing but won't be enough
[ Edited by PRIMETIME21 on Jan 26, 2023 at 12:07 PM ]
I'd more respect a bronze cheesesteak.
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Imagine being from a city where they idolize and have a statue of a fictional character
Originally posted by scottym:
I'd more respect a bronze cheesesteak.
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Imagine being from a city where they idolize and have a statue of a fictional character

I thought this was a shot at the Vatican.
Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
31-24 niners, deebo will go off with 150 yards and Christian will have 150 all purpose, Brock nfc championship mvp, hurts will be over 300 yards passing but won't be enough

With a bum throwing arm? I don't think so
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