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Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by 49erKing:
lmao you didnt call ssshhhiiiooottt.

I did actually. I made a long post a few days back on the pregame thread, basically detailing why I couldn't see the 9ers winning this game.

You predicted Brock being hurt?

I predicted him getting drilled by that D-line.

He got drilled against Tampa. Was Brock hurt in your prediction? Did he not finish the game?
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Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by Ninerlakerdodger:
Season is over…. I have no interest in this Super Bowl, I'd like both teams to lose.

I'll start looking at the draft now…… Looks like we will be looking for a new DC again.

still numb to think we went through 4 QB's this year….Maybe it's time to make our O line a priority.

What a sad end to a great season!

I would say both the O and D lines.

That is essentially what Howie Roseman did, he just focused on the trenches on both sides of the ball.

The guy was so aggressive. He means business. When the Eagles started rolling earlier on in the season, he probably knew they would go deep in the playoffs, so he still wanted to improve on their D-line. He traded for Robert Quinn, even then he wasn't satisfied, he went out to sign Suh to bolster the interior of their line which John Lynch lost out to.

Problem is we are still suffering from blowing all our draft capital on drafting Lance. We still don't have a single 1st round pick. The cap situation probably isn't great neither.

The road ahead is not going to be easy.

We're not suffering from not having a 1st round pick in last year's draft and obviously we don't have one this year but I'd still give up those other picks for McCaffrey any and everyday.

Cap situation is fine going forward, even with Bosa's upcoming $150M deal.

It will take a lot to improve both the O and D lines. We will need 1st round picks. We don't even have any 2nd round picks. If not, we will need a lot of cap room or may be even draft picks to trade for legit players and to pay them.

We may have to consider an "all in, win now" approach now that we have failed this campaign. Trent will already be 35 next season, both Kittle and Armstead will be 30. This window won't be open for much longer, I would say the next 2 years to be realistic.
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by 49erKing:
lmao you didnt call ssshhhiiiooottt.

I did actually. I made a long post a few days back on the pregame thread, basically detailing why I couldn't see the 9ers winning this game.

You predicted Brock being hurt?

I predicted him getting drilled by that D-line.

He got drilled against Tampa. Was Brock hurt in your prediction? Did he not finish the game?

The Bucs game? We are talking about a different cattle of fish. The Eagles' D-line had 70 sacks this season and sacked Daniel Jones 5 times just last week.

Anytime the QB gets hit, he can go down. Jalen Hurts, the man himself, his shoulder was injured by a sack.

Jimmy's season was cut short by a sack which broke his foot.

Brock is not Superman, if he gets sacked/hit enough times, it was just a matter of time he would get hurt.
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by Ninerlakerdodger:
Season is over…. I have no interest in this Super Bowl, I'd like both teams to lose.

I'll start looking at the draft now…… Looks like we will be looking for a new DC again.

still numb to think we went through 4 QB's this year….Maybe it's time to make our O line a priority.

What a sad end to a great season!

I would say both the O and D lines.

That is essentially what Howie Roseman did, he just focused on the trenches on both sides of the ball.

The guy was so aggressive. He means business. When the Eagles started rolling earlier on in the season, he probably knew they would go deep in the playoffs, so he still wanted to improve on their D-line. He traded for Robert Quinn, even then he wasn't satisfied, he went out to sign Suh to bolster the interior of their line which John Lynch lost out to.

Problem is we are still suffering from blowing all our draft capital on drafting Lance. We still don't have a single 1st round pick. The cap situation probably isn't great neither.

The road ahead is not going to be easy.

We're not suffering from not having a 1st round pick in last year's draft and obviously we don't have one this year but I'd still give up those other picks for McCaffrey any and everyday.

Cap situation is fine going forward, even with Bosa's upcoming $150M deal.

It will take a lot to improve both the O and D lines. We will need 1st round picks. We don't even have any 2nd round picks. If not, we will need a lot of cap room or may be even draft picks to trade for legit players and to pay them.

We may have to consider an "all in, win now" approach now that we have failed this campaign. Trent will already be 35 next season, both Kittle and Armstead will be 30. This window won't be open for much longer, I would say the next 2 years to be realistic.

It's not gonna take a lot. Williams will still be playing at an elite level for at least 3 more seasons and Banks was excellent this season. Brendel was a probowl alternate and exceeded just about everyone's expectation after a little bit of a rocky start, if there isn't a clear upgrade available he can be brought back on a very team friendly deal. Burford was a rookie and showed flashes of being very good. McGlinchey needs to be replaced and it shouldn't be hard to get an upgrade either in the 3rd round or a bargain free agent.

I know you think Armstead sucks but he doesn't, at all. We will hopefully keep the depth at DT but adding another big body DJ Jones type would be good. Drake Jackson will be improved as well.
Here are my takeaways from this game/season:

Philly is uber strong in the trenches...and it paid off handsomely this season. They have enough skill players to score on anyone. Their depth is remarkable.

Niners need to address the OL from the C to RT. First of all, if Rakelj is the C of the future, this off-season would be the time to groom him. Brendel's not bad, but he's not good enough to take on the interior DL's for many opponents. Burford got some very good experience this season...so it's reasonable to expect him to be better in his 2nd year. They need to let McGlinchey walk...he's good in the run game, but after 5 seasons still a liability in pass pro. Sign a good FA or draft a better RT who can protect his QB.

The team needs to either re-sign Jimmy G or find a much better b/u for Purdy. Today showed why.

Shanahan needs to stop losing to lesser teams early in the season...no reason to lose to the Bears and Falcons. Win those 2 games and we're hosting the NFC Championship.

Mooney Ward had a heckuva game today...Moseley's back next season, so that'll help. Lenoir steadily improved this year...now I know why Sherman liked him so much. Would like to see considerably more of Womack next year. That may well happen, as Jimmie Ward's a FA and I don't see the Niners dishing out big money on him. Would like to see them sign a good FA CB and/or draft one.

The DL's still in good shape...although I'm really wondering if Kinlaw will ever truly pan out. Lots of injuries so far. Kalia Davis could bolster the DT position...if he's healthy. They need a very good player next to Armstead full-time. Want to see a lot more of Drake Jackson next year. He and Bosa should form a dandy pass rushing duo.

LB corps is very good to excellent...but, Greenlaw needs to stop committing dumb penalties.

Upgrade the TE position...after Kittle, there's not much. Woerner's a good blocker (brings me to question why Coach had Kroft trying to block Reddick vice Woerner or Kittle).

McCaffrey's all-world...he and Mitchell form quite a duo. Trouble is, Elijah just can't seem to stay healthy. Mason looked good when he got opportunities, hopefully he'll get considerably more next season. Davis-Price didn't get many chances...saw some improvement, but not enough to get excited about.

Sounding like Ryans will become Houston's new HC...if not there, he'll get hired by some team. Who'll be the new DC? I like both Holland and Kocurek.
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by Ninerlakerdodger:
Season is over…. I have no interest in this Super Bowl, I'd like both teams to lose.

I'll start looking at the draft now…… Looks like we will be looking for a new DC again.

still numb to think we went through 4 QB's this year….Maybe it's time to make our O line a priority.

What a sad end to a great season!

I would say both the O and D lines.

That is essentially what Howie Roseman did, he just focused on the trenches on both sides of the ball.

The guy was so aggressive. He means business. When the Eagles started rolling earlier on in the season, he probably knew they would go deep in the playoffs, so he still wanted to improve on their D-line. He traded for Robert Quinn, even then he wasn't satisfied, he went out to sign Suh to bolster the interior of their line which John Lynch lost out to.

Problem is we are still suffering from blowing all our draft capital on drafting Lance. We still don't have a single 1st round pick. The cap situation probably isn't great neither.

The road ahead is not going to be easy.

We're not suffering from not having a 1st round pick in last year's draft and obviously we don't have one this year but I'd still give up those other picks for McCaffrey any and everyday.

Cap situation is fine going forward, even with Bosa's upcoming $150M deal.

It will take a lot to improve both the O and D lines. We will need 1st round picks. We don't even have any 2nd round picks. If not, we will need a lot of cap room or may be even draft picks to trade for legit players and to pay them.

We may have to consider an "all in, win now" approach now that we have failed this campaign. Trent will already be 35 next season, both Kittle and Armstead will be 30. This window won't be open for much longer, I would say the next 2 years to be realistic.

It's not gonna take a lot. Williams will still be playing at an elite level for at least 3 more seasons and Banks was excellent this season. Brendel was a probowl alternate and exceeded just about everyone's expectation after a little bit of a rocky start, if there isn't a clear upgrade available he can be brought back on a very team friendly deal. Burford was a rookie and showed flashes of being very good. McGlinchey needs to be replaced and it shouldn't be hard to get an upgrade either in the 3rd round or a bargain free agent.

I know you think Armstead sucks but he doesn't, at all. We will hopefully keep the depth at DT but adding another big body DJ Jones type would be good. Drake Jackson will be improved as well.

Unfortunately, tackles that are better than mcglinchey aren't the norm and certainly don't come cheap
Originally posted by kujon11:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by Ninerlakerdodger:
Season is over…. I have no interest in this Super Bowl, I'd like both teams to lose.

I'll start looking at the draft now…… Looks like we will be looking for a new DC again.

still numb to think we went through 4 QB's this year….Maybe it's time to make our O line a priority.

What a sad end to a great season!

I would say both the O and D lines.

That is essentially what Howie Roseman did, he just focused on the trenches on both sides of the ball.

The guy was so aggressive. He means business. When the Eagles started rolling earlier on in the season, he probably knew they would go deep in the playoffs, so he still wanted to improve on their D-line. He traded for Robert Quinn, even then he wasn't satisfied, he went out to sign Suh to bolster the interior of their line which John Lynch lost out to.

Problem is we are still suffering from blowing all our draft capital on drafting Lance. We still don't have a single 1st round pick. The cap situation probably isn't great neither.

The road ahead is not going to be easy.

We're not suffering from not having a 1st round pick in last year's draft and obviously we don't have one this year but I'd still give up those other picks for McCaffrey any and everyday.

Cap situation is fine going forward, even with Bosa's upcoming $150M deal.

It will take a lot to improve both the O and D lines. We will need 1st round picks. We don't even have any 2nd round picks. If not, we will need a lot of cap room or may be even draft picks to trade for legit players and to pay them.

We may have to consider an "all in, win now" approach now that we have failed this campaign. Trent will already be 35 next season, both Kittle and Armstead will be 30. This window won't be open for much longer, I would say the next 2 years to be realistic.

It's not gonna take a lot. Williams will still be playing at an elite level for at least 3 more seasons and Banks was excellent this season. Brendel was a probowl alternate and exceeded just about everyone's expectation after a little bit of a rocky start, if there isn't a clear upgrade available he can be brought back on a very team friendly deal. Burford was a rookie and showed flashes of being very good. McGlinchey needs to be replaced and it shouldn't be hard to get an upgrade either in the 3rd round or a bargain free agent.

I know you think Armstead sucks but he doesn't, at all. We will hopefully keep the depth at DT but adding another big body DJ Jones type would be good. Drake Jackson will be improved as well.

Unfortunately, tackles that are better than mcglinchey aren't the norm and certainly don't come cheap

I guess that depends on how high your opinion is of McGlinchey. I don't think it'll be hard for the team to upgrade. There are late round picks and undrafted players on other teams that are better than him.

Two of the three OTs in the pro bowl for the AFC were third round picks.
[ Edited by btthepunk on Jan 30, 2023 at 12:22 AM ]
Sigh still bummed lol damn
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Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by Ninerlakerdodger:
Season is over…. I have no interest in this Super Bowl, I'd like both teams to lose.

I'll start looking at the draft now…… Looks like we will be looking for a new DC again.

still numb to think we went through 4 QB's this year….Maybe it's time to make our O line a priority.

What a sad end to a great season!

I would say both the O and D lines.

That is essentially what Howie Roseman did, he just focused on the trenches on both sides of the ball.

The guy was so aggressive. He means business. When the Eagles started rolling earlier on in the season, he probably knew they would go deep in the playoffs, so he still wanted to improve on their D-line. He traded for Robert Quinn, even then he wasn't satisfied, he went out to sign Suh to bolster the interior of their line which John Lynch lost out to.

Problem is we are still suffering from blowing all our draft capital on drafting Lance. We still don't have a single 1st round pick. The cap situation probably isn't great neither.

The road ahead is not going to be easy.

We're not suffering from not having a 1st round pick in last year's draft and obviously we don't have one this year but I'd still give up those other picks for McCaffrey any and everyday.

Cap situation is fine going forward, even with Bosa's upcoming $150M deal.

It will take a lot to improve both the O and D lines. We will need 1st round picks. We don't even have any 2nd round picks. If not, we will need a lot of cap room or may be even draft picks to trade for legit players and to pay them.

We may have to consider an "all in, win now" approach now that we have failed this campaign. Trent will already be 35 next season, both Kittle and Armstead will be 30. This window won't be open for much longer, I would say the next 2 years to be realistic.

It's not gonna take a lot. Williams will still be playing at an elite level for at least 3 more seasons and Banks was excellent this season. Brendel was a probowl alternate and exceeded just about everyone's expectation after a little bit of a rocky start, if there isn't a clear upgrade available he can be brought back on a very team friendly deal. Burford was a rookie and showed flashes of being very good. McGlinchey needs to be replaced and it shouldn't be hard to get an upgrade either in the 3rd round or a bargain free agent.

I know you think Armstead sucks but he doesn't, at all. We will hopefully keep the depth at DT but adding another big body DJ Jones type would be good. Drake Jackson will be improved as well.

For the record, I don't think Armstead sucks at all. But, to better or at least get close to the Eagles' D-line, it will require much more firepower than that. Right now, as it stands, our D-line lacks push and we cannot just rush 4. We cannot get to the QB without running stunts and dialling up blitzes. The sack numbers are too low, it has to be elevated. We can be slightly behind the Eagles' D-line because they are just too good, but it can't be 26 sacks worse. 5-8 sacks worse sure which means we will need at least another 18 sacks from our 44. We are not going to get 18 sacks by getting a big-bodied DT alone. We will need another quality EDGE on top.

O-line wise, you make it sound too easy. The fact of the matter is we could not block the Eagles D-line which led to both Brock and Josh's game ending injuries. This has to be the standard because if you want to go to the dance, I think at some point we will have to be able to beat the Eagles.
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by Ninerlakerdodger:
Season is over…. I have no interest in this Super Bowl, I'd like both teams to lose.

I'll start looking at the draft now…… Looks like we will be looking for a new DC again.

still numb to think we went through 4 QB's this year….Maybe it's time to make our O line a priority.

What a sad end to a great season!

I would say both the O and D lines.

That is essentially what Howie Roseman did, he just focused on the trenches on both sides of the ball.

The guy was so aggressive. He means business. When the Eagles started rolling earlier on in the season, he probably knew they would go deep in the playoffs, so he still wanted to improve on their D-line. He traded for Robert Quinn, even then he wasn't satisfied, he went out to sign Suh to bolster the interior of their line which John Lynch lost out to.

Problem is we are still suffering from blowing all our draft capital on drafting Lance. We still don't have a single 1st round pick. The cap situation probably isn't great neither.

The road ahead is not going to be easy.

We're not suffering from not having a 1st round pick in last year's draft and obviously we don't have one this year but I'd still give up those other picks for McCaffrey any and everyday.

Cap situation is fine going forward, even with Bosa's upcoming $150M deal.

It will take a lot to improve both the O and D lines. We will need 1st round picks. We don't even have any 2nd round picks. If not, we will need a lot of cap room or may be even draft picks to trade for legit players and to pay them.

We may have to consider an "all in, win now" approach now that we have failed this campaign. Trent will already be 35 next season, both Kittle and Armstead will be 30. This window won't be open for much longer, I would say the next 2 years to be realistic.

It's not gonna take a lot. Williams will still be playing at an elite level for at least 3 more seasons and Banks was excellent this season. Brendel was a probowl alternate and exceeded just about everyone's expectation after a little bit of a rocky start, if there isn't a clear upgrade available he can be brought back on a very team friendly deal. Burford was a rookie and showed flashes of being very good. McGlinchey needs to be replaced and it shouldn't be hard to get an upgrade either in the 3rd round or a bargain free agent.

I know you think Armstead sucks but he doesn't, at all. We will hopefully keep the depth at DT but adding another big body DJ Jones type would be good. Drake Jackson will be improved as well.

For the record, I don't think Armstead sucks at all. But, to better or at least get close to the Eagles' D-line, it will require much more firepower than that. Right now, as it stands, our D-line lacks push and we cannot just rush 4. We cannot get to the QB without running stunts and dialling up blitzes. The sack numbers are too low, it has to be elevated. We can be slightly behind the Eagles' D-line because they are just too good, but it can't be 26 sacks worse. 5-8 sacks worse sure which means we will need at least another 18 sacks from our 44. We are not going to get 18 sacks by getting a big-bodied DT alone. We will need another quality EDGE on top.

O-line wise, you make it sound too easy. The fact of the matter is we could not block the Eagles D-line which led to both Brock and Josh's game ending injuries. This has to be the standard because if you want to go to the dance, I think at some point we will have to be able to beat the Eagles.

I had you confused with someone else on the Armstead thing. My bad.
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Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by Ninerlakerdodger:
Season is over…. I have no interest in this Super Bowl, I'd like both teams to lose.

I'll start looking at the draft now…… Looks like we will be looking for a new DC again.

still numb to think we went through 4 QB's this year….Maybe it's time to make our O line a priority.

What a sad end to a great season!

I would say both the O and D lines.

That is essentially what Howie Roseman did, he just focused on the trenches on both sides of the ball.

The guy was so aggressive. He means business. When the Eagles started rolling earlier on in the season, he probably knew they would go deep in the playoffs, so he still wanted to improve on their D-line. He traded for Robert Quinn, even then he wasn't satisfied, he went out to sign Suh to bolster the interior of their line which John Lynch lost out to.

Problem is we are still suffering from blowing all our draft capital on drafting Lance. We still don't have a single 1st round pick. The cap situation probably isn't great neither.

The road ahead is not going to be easy.

We're not suffering from not having a 1st round pick in last year's draft and obviously we don't have one this year but I'd still give up those other picks for McCaffrey any and everyday.

Cap situation is fine going forward, even with Bosa's upcoming $150M deal.

It will take a lot to improve both the O and D lines. We will need 1st round picks. We don't even have any 2nd round picks. If not, we will need a lot of cap room or may be even draft picks to trade for legit players and to pay them.

We may have to consider an "all in, win now" approach now that we have failed this campaign. Trent will already be 35 next season, both Kittle and Armstead will be 30. This window won't be open for much longer, I would say the next 2 years to be realistic.

It's not gonna take a lot. Williams will still be playing at an elite level for at least 3 more seasons and Banks was excellent this season. Brendel was a probowl alternate and exceeded just about everyone's expectation after a little bit of a rocky start, if there isn't a clear upgrade available he can be brought back on a very team friendly deal. Burford was a rookie and showed flashes of being very good. McGlinchey needs to be replaced and it shouldn't be hard to get an upgrade either in the 3rd round or a bargain free agent.

I know you think Armstead sucks but he doesn't, at all. We will hopefully keep the depth at DT but adding another big body DJ Jones type would be good. Drake Jackson will be improved as well.

For the record, I don't think Armstead sucks at all. But, to better or at least get close to the Eagles' D-line, it will require much more firepower than that. Right now, as it stands, our D-line lacks push and we cannot just rush 4. We cannot get to the QB without running stunts and dialling up blitzes. The sack numbers are too low, it has to be elevated. We can be slightly behind the Eagles' D-line because they are just too good, but it can't be 26 sacks worse. 5-8 sacks worse sure which means we will need at least another 18 sacks from our 44. We are not going to get 18 sacks by getting a big-bodied DT alone. We will need another quality EDGE on top.

O-line wise, you make it sound too easy. The fact of the matter is we could not block the Eagles D-line which led to both Brock and Josh's game ending injuries. This has to be the standard because if you want to go to the dance, I think at some point we will have to be able to beat the Eagles.

Eagles are a one year wonder. Hurts really isn't that good. This RPO is old everyone's been running it since Kaep and eventually it'll get figured out on him. Unless he can develop into a real passer like Mahomes the Eagles will likely drop into mediocrity and will be jockeying for position in a tough NFC East for years to come…
Originally posted by DrEll:
Eagles are a one year wonder. Hurts really isn't that good. This RPO is old everyone's been running it since Kaep and eventually it'll get figured out on him. Unless he can develop into a real passer like Mahomes the Eagles will likely drop into mediocrity and will be jockeying for position in a tough NFC East for years to come…

That plus Eagles have a ton of FA's and they're probably going to have to pay Hurts $40 mil at some point soon. Doubt their roster looks close to the same next year.
I was worried about this game and actually thought the Eagles would win by about 7 points or more. My biggest concern was their defensive line overpowering our O line. That ended up being the main reason the Niners lost. It caused the injury to Purdy. It slowed the running game. In the end it controlled the game.

The Niners D played well enough to win. Hurts only had 121 yards passing. Forty of that came on that long pass to Smith that shouldn't have counted. Yes they rushed for 148 yards but much of that happened in the 2nd half when the D was worn down from being on the field. The Eagles ran 25 more plays. The D also looked like they were trying to hard to make plays after Purdy got hurt. They knew they weren't going to be able to generate a lot of offense so they tried to force turnovers. In the process they made so silly errors. Some of the penalties were close and maybe shouldn't have been called but there were too many that were obvious. Hitting Hurts out of bounds.Hands to the face by a D lineman. The roughing the punter call. You could say he was pushed into the punter but officials are always going to favor the gut that gets hit in this era of protect everyone at all costs.

I see a lot of people complaining about Kyle not challenging that catch. Well he didn't see the view that showed the ball on the ground. The Eagles rushed to the line and got the play off before the guys in the booth could review it. Here's a thought. Why doesn't the league automatically review plays like that in the playoffs. They review everything else. If that had been aTD catch it would have been reviewed and probably overturned.

He was criticized for putting a backup TE on Reddick. Well I don't know why he did that but there's no way of knowing if Kittle would have been able to block him either. Kittle has been a hot target for Purdy so maybe he wanted to keep him free for pass patterns. Maybe another lineman was supposed to help on that play.

Bottom line is this was no worse than a 7-7 game even without Purdy until the last few minutes of the half. Three drive extending penalties allowed the Eagles to score the go ahead TD and then Johnson dropped a perfect snap that resulted in a fumble recovery and a quick score. 21-7 with your 4th string QB in the game. Game over.
After a night of sleep, boy still really bummed. I cannot believe the luck. I can't believe on top of QB how penalties decided the path as well. We gifted them so much. Just a gut wrenching loss.

I hope someday we can finally get over the hump and have a SB win in the 21st century.

Really irritated today. Co-workers beware..
Eagles fans acting like they dominated us
Rams fans talking s**t...
It's pretty pathetic
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