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Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Where we stand:

Trey - broke foot
Brock - broke arm
Jimmy - Smiling too much to give a damn about anything
Josh -
Is he high or something?
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
There's no guarantee Jimmy or Brady stays healthy either. So I don't understand that argument.

I'm looking at this with the idea that Option A allows our team to allocate cap space to other parts of the team. We could continue to build a juggernaut around Trey whether the storm until Brock comes back.

I'm not saying we shouldn't sign anybody, I'd like to have a Heinicke, Minshew type QB3. But I don't think we need to continue bench Trey for someone like Brady or Jimmy G. It's counter productive at that point because you're continually stunting the growth of a QB who IMO has a lot of potential still.

I believe in Trey. I don't know for sure he will be good enough or stay healthy but people act like it's certain we would lose with Trey and win with Jimmy and its ridiculous.

There's no guarantee of anything, ever.

But let me ask you this, if you had to bet your entire year's salary on one QB to get this team to the SB and win it and the choices are Lance or Brady, who are you picking?

Honestly I don't care about developing Lance. You might invest three or four years into him and end up with a subpar NFL quarterback at best and still with no SB. Herbert is more or less what people hope Lance turns into and he still chokes at key moments.

I want whatever puts this team closest to winning a SB in 2023 and in my view, that isn't Lance. You win that SB and you can go through a mini rebuild/reload of sorts, you can have Lance and Purdy fight it out to see who deserves to stick around but for now, do everything you can to win that SB, its been long enough.

Exactly! On top of that, our schedule next year is brutal and we're about to lose our DC so defense will take a little hit as well. Give me Brady all day and five Fangio what he wants.
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Trey Brock and draft a QB and shore up all other areas of the team like PHI is doing with their own cheap QB

Brady 5 years ago would be great. This season he looked old and flinched at contact. Who knows what he can do in another 8 months.

Aside from that they have guys to pay and don't have the cash for Brady even if he takes a discount.

The only option is to draft a QB and develop him.

Brock or Trey may have trade market sometime in the near future.

Repeat the process in the following draft.
FFS why the hell does Brady never go away. Did anyone watch the wildcard game?
Originally posted by Miranda:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Where we stand:

Trey - broke foot
Brock - broke arm
Jimmy - Smiling too much to give a damn about anything
Josh -
Is he high or something?

dude has 100+m in the bank and he looks like Jimmy G.. why wouldn't he be smiling?
Originally posted by 4thandlong:
Brady 5 years ago would be great. This season he looked old and flinched at contact. Who knows what he can do in another 8 months.

Aside from that they have guys to pay and don't have the cash for Brady even if he takes a discount.

The only option is to draft a QB and develop him.

Brock or Trey may have trade market sometime in the near future.

Repeat the process in the following draft.

You don't need prime Brady to win with this roster, just a guy that can make the reads, get the ball out quick, be decisive and not shrink under the bright lights. Brady has been there, done that many times over. The 49ers don't need elite top of his career Brady, just a high end game managing Brady that can successfully utilize the many weapons on this roster.

Brady wouldn't have to throw for 4,700 yards on this roster, just let the run game and receiving talent do their thing and run the offense at a high level.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 4thandlong:
Brady 5 years ago would be great. This season he looked old and flinched at contact. Who knows what he can do in another 8 months.

Aside from that they have guys to pay and don't have the cash for Brady even if he takes a discount.

The only option is to draft a QB and develop him.

Brock or Trey may have trade market sometime in the near future.

Repeat the process in the following draft.

You don't need prime Brady to win with this roster, just a guy that can make the reads, get the ball out quick, be decisive and not shrink under the bright lights. Brady has been there, done that many times over. The 49ers don't need elite top of his career Brady, just a high end game managing Brady that can successfully utilize the many weapons on this roster.

Brady wouldn't have to throw for 4,700 yards on this roster, just let the run game and receiving talent do their thing and run the offense at a high level.

Heck.. Peyton Manning with the wheels obviously falling off the express.. won the chip. Coach out there on the field, with elite D and some ground and pound. Brady now is 10x how Peyton was that last year.
Nothing can be done until we know the extent of repair Purdy needs.

I don't feel it's wise to spend $30M Brady when there are tons of other holes and the player himself isn't what he was even 2-3 years ago. Also I don't know how the ego battle would go between him and KS.
Trey and a backup better than Josh Johnson. Keep Purdy around but at this point it's back to seeing him as Mr Irrelevant.

We spent the 3rd pick and 2 other 1sts on Trey. The reality is that's who Shanny bet on.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Jan 30, 2023 at 4:58 PM ]
Originally posted by 4thandlong:
Brady 5 years ago would be great. This season he looked old and flinched at contact. Who knows what he can do in another 8 months.

Aside from that they have guys to pay and don't have the cash for Brady even if he takes a discount.

The only option is to draft a QB and develop him.

Brock or Trey may have trade market sometime in the near future.

Repeat the process in the following draft.

Dak made Brady look like he didn't belong in today's game. At this point everything has to be perfect for Brady to succeed because he can't buy time to fix plays when the pass rush gets home

Dak extended plays and bought time to get explosives and Brady was giving us no such explosives this year so why would we set our team back messing around with that when the guy is my doggone age. That's old enough to be the father of the majority of our roster. He could be Trey and Brock's father
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
You don't need prime Brady to win with this roster, just a guy that can make the reads, get the ball out quick, be decisive and not shrink under the bright lights. Brady has been there, done that many times over. The 49ers don't need elite top of his career Brady, just a high end game managing Brady that can successfully utilize the many weapons on this roster.

Brady wouldn't have to throw for 4,700 yards on this roster, just let the run game and receiving talent do their thing and run the offense at a high level.

Make the right decisions, pick up 3rd downs, and convert TDs in the redzone. We have ideal weapons to match with him.

And regardless of whether Brady becomes a reality, there are in fact other QB options out there that would put us in a better position to compete in 2023.
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Nothing can be done until we know the extent of repair Purdy needs.

I don't feel it's wise to spend $30M Brady when there are tons of other holes and the player himself isn't what he was even 2-3 years ago. Also I don't know how the ego battle would go between him and KS.

where does this 30 mil keep coming from..

this is google.. why would it double to 30?

As a result, Tom Brady is on the books for $15 million this year, including a $12 million cap hit for the Buccaneers. The $15 million represents his yearly salary in 2022, which is spread out over all 17 games of the season. Tom Brady's salary breaks down to about $882,352.94 per game.Nov 8, 2022
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Nothing can be done until we know the extent of repair Purdy needs.

I don't feel it's wise to spend $30M Brady when there are tons of other holes and the player himself isn't what he was even 2-3 years ago. Also I don't know how the ego battle would go between him and KS.

We have to pay Bosa a record breaking deal and we gotta absorb CMC deal. Now who do we want to cut for Brady who's as old as I am?
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 4thandlong:
Brady 5 years ago would be great. This season he looked old and flinched at contact. Who knows what he can do in another 8 months.

Aside from that they have guys to pay and don't have the cash for Brady even if he takes a discount.

The only option is to draft a QB and develop him.

Brock or Trey may have trade market sometime in the near future.

Repeat the process in the following draft.

You don't need prime Brady to win with this roster, just a guy that can make the reads, get the ball out quick, be decisive and not shrink under the bright lights. Brady has been there, done that a hundred times over. The 49ers don't need elite top of his career Brady, just a high end game managing Brady that can successfully utilize the many weapons on this roster.

?? You do know demanding my way Brady do you not? b***hing at the WRs and team for any mistake. And that he is a statue and can't move around in the pocket. And do know he drops like a meteor falling from the sky when danger near. This is not a Kyle type QB. He is not. His history is not 9ers. I prefer he or AR not here. We HAVE to GROW these rookies no matter if it takes a year. We can't continue down this rotation path.

I'm content Trey and Brock and a lesser vet if need be with the Vet in backup role. Trey or and Brock is the future. We need to get thru this next stretch of rehab and Trey will be ready.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
There's no guarantee of anything, ever.

But let me ask you this, if you had to bet your entire year's salary on one QB to get this team to the SB and win it and the choices are Lance or Brady, who are you picking?

Honestly I don't care about developing Lance. You might invest three or four years into him and end up with a subpar NFL quarterback at best and still with no SB. Herbert is more or less what people hope Lance turns into and he still chokes at key moments.

I want whatever puts this team closest to winning a SB in 2023 and in my view, that isn't Lance. You win that SB and you can go through a mini rebuild/reload of sorts, you can have Lance and Purdy fight it out to see who deserves to stick around but for now, do everything you can to win that SB, its been long enough.

Coming into the season, it seemed like this was a year for Lance to get experience and with luck get to the Super Bowl, with next season and the one after being the real targets. If we had Lance (or Brock) tearing things up, then you borrow against the out years if needed to resign everyone and try winning a few championships in a row. We were on track with Purdy until yesterday. Now I think you take a serious look at winning at least one now if Brady is interested.
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