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Originally posted by Leathaface:
Nothing can be done until we know the extent of repair Purdy needs.

I don't feel it's wise to spend $30M Brady when there are tons of other holes and the player himself isn't what he was even 2-3 years ago. Also I don't know how the ego battle would go between him and KS.
It's not gonna cost $30M & the hole at QB trumps all else.
[ Edited by DaleGribble on Jan 30, 2023 at 5:01 PM ]
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 4thandlong:
Brady 5 years ago would be great. This season he looked old and flinched at contact. Who knows what he can do in another 8 months.

Aside from that they have guys to pay and don't have the cash for Brady even if he takes a discount.

The only option is to draft a QB and develop him.

Brock or Trey may have trade market sometime in the near future.

Repeat the process in the following draft.

You don't need prime Brady to win with this roster, just a guy that can make the reads, get the ball out quick, be decisive and not shrink under the bright lights. Brady has been there, done that a hundred times over. The 49ers don't need elite top of his career Brady, just a high end game managing Brady that can successfully utilize the many weapons on this roster.

?? You do know demanding my way Brady do you not? b***hing at the WRs and team for any mistake.

yeah he's like the Michael Jordan of football he will elevate guys around him.. get on my level mentality
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Dak made Brady look like he didn't belong in today's game. At this point everything has to be perfect for Brady to succeed because he can't buy time to fix plays when the pass rush gets home

Dak extended plays and bought time to get explosives and Brady was giving us no such explosives this year so why would we set our team back messing around with that when the guy is my doggone age. That's old enough to be the father of the majority of our roster. He could be Trey and Brock's father

When was he playing defense? That's impressive.
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Nothing can be done until we know the extent of repair Purdy needs.

I don't feel it's wise to spend $30M Brady when there are tons of other holes and the player himself isn't what he was even 2-3 years ago. Also I don't know how the ego battle would go between him and KS.

We already rejected him once reportedly. That wouldn't have sat well and Brady doesn't forget these little things.

25-30mil is way too much for Brady imo.
Trey Lance.
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 4thandlong:
Brady 5 years ago would be great. This season he looked old and flinched at contact. Who knows what he can do in another 8 months.

Aside from that they have guys to pay and don't have the cash for Brady even if he takes a discount.

The only option is to draft a QB and develop him.

Brock or Trey may have trade market sometime in the near future.

Repeat the process in the following draft.

You don't need prime Brady to win with this roster, just a guy that can make the reads, get the ball out quick, be decisive and not shrink under the bright lights. Brady has been there, done that a hundred times over. The 49ers don't need elite top of his career Brady, just a high end game managing Brady that can successfully utilize the many weapons on this roster.

?? You do know demanding my way Brady do you not? b***hing at the WRs and team for any mistake. And that he is a statue and can't move around in the pocket. And do know he drops like a meteor falling from the sky when danger near. This is not a Kyle type QB. He is not. His history is not 9ers. I prefer he or AR not here. We HAVE to GROW these rookies no matter if it takes a year. We can't continue down this rotation path.

I'm content Trey and Brock and a lesser vet if need be with the Vet in backup role. Trey or and Brock is the future. We need to get thru this next stretch of rehab and Trey will be ready.

We won't make the playoffs next year with Trey and our schedule. Give me 45 year old Brady and his knowledge. The signing is exactly what this team needs and he'll bring the best out of all the players, even on the defensive side of the ball
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Nothing can be done until we know the extent of repair Purdy needs.

I don't feel it's wise to spend $30M Brady when there are tons of other holes and the player himself isn't what he was even 2-3 years ago. Also I don't know how the ego battle would go between him and KS.

We have to pay Bosa a record breaking deal and we gotta absorb CMC deal. Now who do we want to cut for Brady who's as old as I am?

Folks here not listening. Probably in neck of $30M a year. The cap went up what? $17m? Okay now we take what we have on the books and scrape some more up and he is covered. We do not have money and I just hope to god we don't bring in AR or Brady. It just feels wrong. They are not part of the history here and maybe if long ago but it isn't.

A Vet to play back-up while we get serious about the other two, Brock and Trey.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Nothing can be done until we know the extent of repair Purdy needs.

I don't feel it's wise to spend $30M Brady when there are tons of other holes and the player himself isn't what he was even 2-3 years ago. Also I don't know how the ego battle would go between him and KS.
It's not gonna cost $30M & the hole at QB trumps all else.

Won't be far from 30m
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Make the right decisions, pick up 3rd downs, and convert TDs in the redzone. We have ideal weapons to match with him.

And regardless of whether Brady becomes a reality, there are in fact other QB options out there that would put us in a better position to compete in 2023.

We just got smoked by PHI because they did the hard work and developed their guy while building a monster roster around him. I want that and obviously Kyle wanted that is why he drafted Trey and he has actually stated that on multiple occasions.

I said all along if Hurts beats Purdy then we need to develop our guy because all the talking heads kept harping on how we had the least talented QB left. Well we drafted our Hurts so let's develop him because I'm tired of going into games where everyone keeps telling us we at a QB deficit come playoff time

We just have to do what Kyle wanted to do all along and develop our guy and build around him while he's cheap
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
There's no guarantee Jimmy or Brady stays healthy either. So I don't understand that argument.

I'm looking at this with the idea that Option A allows our team to allocate cap space to other parts of the team. We could continue to build a juggernaut around Trey whether the storm until Brock comes back.

I'm not saying we shouldn't sign anybody, I'd like to have a Heinicke, Minshew type QB3. But I don't think we need to continue bench Trey for someone like Brady or Jimmy G. It's counter productive at that point because you're continually stunting the growth of a QB who IMO has a lot of potential still.

I believe in Trey. I don't know for sure he will be good enough or stay healthy but people act like it's certain we would lose with Trey and win with Jimmy and its ridiculous.

There's no guarantee of anything, ever.

But let me ask you this, if you had to bet your entire year's salary on one QB to get this team to the SB and win it and the choices are Lance or Brady, who are you picking?

Obviously in a vacuum you trust Brady over Trey but nothing works like that. Wether or not signing Brady is that right choice depends on a lot of different factors… how much he wants, and what effect does him coming to the 49ers have on the team, especially Brock and Lance, and so on.

Do we have to change the offense and stunt Trey and Brock's growth? What happens if Brady comes in and does well, but had we waited we would have won the SB because Trey or Purdy
took the next step and were on the sidelines.

How many posters on this forum were in the camp that said we needed Jimmy to sign with us last offseason or we'd potentially miss our SB chance. And now we see that Purdy was able to do… what if Purdy starting meant we got the #1 seed? These hypotheticals can go on and on.

I mean, how many times are we gonna do this where we assume we're in win now so we have to bench Trey.

Like it or not, the reason we're competing for Super Bowls was the fact we lost our QB for multiple seasons and drafted high those years (Nick Bosa, Deebo Samuel).
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Dak made Brady look like he didn't belong in today's game. At this point everything has to be perfect for Brady to succeed because he can't buy time to fix plays when the pass rush gets home

Dak extended plays and bought time to get explosives and Brady was giving us no such explosives this year so why would we set our team back messing around with that when the guy is my doggone age. That's old enough to be the father of the majority of our roster. He could be Trey and Brock's father

When was he playing defense? That's impressive.

Forgot about that, definitely want him now and he'll definitely be worth every penny.
People do realize that if Brady signs here, so will several quality vets chasing a ring. Will take some magic from Marathe but I have faith he can make it work. I'm tired of falling short year after year. I'm all in on Brady. Plus it can only help Trey and Brock to sit behind the GOAT for a year and learn.
Originally posted by 9NERNATE:
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 4thandlong:
Brady 5 years ago would be great. This season he looked old and flinched at contact. Who knows what he can do in another 8 months.

Aside from that they have guys to pay and don't have the cash for Brady even if he takes a discount.

The only option is to draft a QB and develop him.

Brock or Trey may have trade market sometime in the near future.

Repeat the process in the following draft.

You don't need prime Brady to win with this roster, just a guy that can make the reads, get the ball out quick, be decisive and not shrink under the bright lights. Brady has been there, done that a hundred times over. The 49ers don't need elite top of his career Brady, just a high end game managing Brady that can successfully utilize the many weapons on this roster.

?? You do know demanding my way Brady do you not? b***hing at the WRs and team for any mistake. And that he is a statue and can't move around in the pocket. And do know he drops like a meteor falling from the sky when danger near. This is not a Kyle type QB. He is not. His history is not 9ers. I prefer he or AR not here. We HAVE to GROW these rookies no matter if it takes a year. We can't continue down this rotation path.

I'm content Trey and Brock and a lesser vet if need be with the Vet in backup role. Trey or and Brock is the future. We need to get thru this next stretch of rehab and Trey will be ready.

We won't make the playoffs next year with Trey and our schedule. Give me 45 year old Brady and his knowledge. The signing is exactly what this team needs and he'll bring the best out of all the players, even on the defensive side of the ball

So what! We didn't make it the promised land this year. At some point the insane QB carousel we have been on since Jimmy here needs to stop. It's BS. Stay the course with Trey OR Brock and move on. Brock will not be ready so it sure looks like Trey. Anyway you want to dice it Brock not in early program. Not ready. It sure has a feel Trey is in charge.
Originally posted by JaggedJ:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Nothing can be done until we know the extent of repair Purdy needs.

I don't feel it's wise to spend $30M Brady when there are tons of other holes and the player himself isn't what he was even 2-3 years ago. Also I don't know how the ego battle would go between him and KS.

We already rejected him once reportedly. That wouldn't have sat well and Brady doesn't forget these little things.

25-30mil is way too much for Brady imo.
Were are people getting this $30M narrative the Rappaport story were he's just spouting of his opinion with nothing concrete to back it up?

Brady played for 15M this year I seriously doubt he commands double going forward.
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Trey Lance.

And if Lance flops, then what? Imagine wasting possibly the final year with a completely loaded offense on a project QB from the FCS that hasn't played more than three or four games total in four years.

The stakes are high, whether people want to accept that or not. Next year is not a rebuilding year. I doubt that guys like Trent Williams, McCaffrey, Kittle, Warner, Deebo or Mooney Ward would be cool with a season of putting the training wheels on for an inexperienced passer.

There's no guarantee that they get a veteran passer like Brady, but they should make every attempt to do so.
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