What do we do now at QB?

I can't imagine Brady would want to play for anyone else. Even a reunion with McDaniels in LV would mean he has to compete with Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Herbert, maybe Wilson if he learns he to play again, etc.

With the Niners, he gets a stacked offense where mostly all he does is hand the ball off and/or make the quick read pass. His competition is Dak Prescott (lol), Matthew Stafford (broken goods), Daniel Jones (lol), Genius Smith (lol), and Jalen Hurts (fake). Rodgers looks like he is out of GB.

Brady would have the opportunity to play and retire with a ring (or 2) on his child hood team close to family. Great weather.

This is gonna happen. I don't think Kyle makes the same mistake twice…

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Idk what it is… but in October I had a lingering, gradually-increasing gut feeling for about 1-2 weeks that we were going to trade for McCaffrey, and then we did.

I'm having that same feeling for Brady. Again, not sure what it is. But something about this feels more likely than ever. Guess we will see in March.

It's inevitable to be honest. If the media is stirring the pot on this, and Brady really does want to play….he's gonna pick the 49ers and there is no way Kyle passes on him a second time.

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Jimmy isn't going to negotiate that kind of contract in 2023 and the experienced rookie is unlikely to be ready for start of the season after missing most of the offseason and based on late July/early August return - he will likely need few more weeks to get his arm where it needs to be.

Jimmy & Purdy got hurt as pocket passers. Jimmy was chased out of pocket and Purdy was in the middle of the pocket. They also got hurt doing things they were capable of executing.

Jimmy is 100 percent gone in my mind. There's zero chance he would be back here unless his market is completely dry.

I referenced Jimmy G's restructured deal because it was very clearly a Lance insurance policy. For injury, given they were going to be running him a ton... and for substandard play. It points to them not being fully comfortable rolling into a season where they should be a contender with an unproven commodity at QB.

And since that point Lance couldn't make it two games without suffering a serious injury and missing yet another season of football. The idea that nothing has changed since they made the decision to roll with Lance as the starter is ludicrous.

No - lol this is not what happened. They tried trading Jimmy all offseason long for an 2nd rd pick and couldn't get a deal done. So, they brought him back on a restructured deal bc they didn't want to lose him for nothing. There was never a plan to play Jimmy. He didn't participate in any team drills in the whole offseason. Lol stop revising history.

Now when he signs a deal this offseason with another team - they'll at least get a 3rd rd comp pick.

Nothing has changed in the sense 49ers were contenders at the start of last season and they'll be contenders at the start of 2023 season. If they were willing to go with Lance last season then nothing should stop them from making the same decision this season since Purdy is injured and Jimmy is a FA and highly unlikely to return to the team.

If we are gonna say Lance couldn't make it 2 full games so we should give up on him then Purdy also couldn't make it thru half a season worth of games - and that isn't enough either.

This is the correct read IMO.
Nothing has changed from the beginning of last season and the upcoming season. Except for the team's plans being deferred for one year because of injury to the starter. I've argued it before and I'll restate: Trey Lance is the starter.

This talk of "now Shanahan can see what's possible with this team"? Lol! It's just a trumped up narrative to disguise a personal dislike. Shanahan could "see" that back when the team made a run at the Super Bowl. Yet he made an expensive move for a QB who would fit the mold of what he was looking for.

I'll also believe, based upon the coach's previous actions, that Purdy, as good as he has performed, is not the prototypical QB Shanahan is looking for. Purdy is:
1. Too small;
2. Limited in arm strength; and
3. Not fleet of foot and therefore not a serious run threat.
Trey Lance is all of those things.
Purdy is a fantastic back up. And someone he can fall back on should Lance not prove up to the task, but he is not the long term answer Shanahan covets.
Should Lance fail, it would be back to the well for Shanahan.
This is what I see from Shanahan. Time will tell.

What do we do at QB? Who cares. He's just going to get hurt anyways.

Originally posted by RDB4216:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
To me, one year of Brady really comes down to price. $15M vs. $30M could be the difference in our window slamming shut way earlier. I mean we're set to pay CMC $12M next season. $15M extra is a whole CMC and change!

Brady is not experiencing a shortage of money. Ask him to take a discount. Otherwise roll with Lance. This is his last chance to be on his childhood team. And if not, hello to last year's plan of Lance learning on the job.

He lost a bundle in the FTX scam, and is being sued for it on top of that. Not to mention losing his supermodel wife's income.

I also has a $375M contract with FOX windfall after retirement. He's fine. He's going to get fairly, but he's not going to push to be the highest paid player in the league.

Besides, they can pay him fairly, and come up with a clever contract with fake years at the end to spread out the cap hit. He did that multiple times with TB.

They'll stick with Lance more than likely.

Originally posted by Sickaa:
They'll stick with Lance more than likely.

Hopefully that ankle heels right. But this is the most likely path.

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Fire josh Johnson. Immediately. Everything else will iron itself out

Originally posted by glorydayz:
I don't think a 50 year old QB is the answer?

How about we get some guys in here that can protect the QB, change our system to something that doesn't get QB's killed, or find coaches that can develop a QB?

If that fails, find a guy that can actually evaluate rookie or free agent Quarterbacks?

I don't think Brady is the answer either. Spend the money on OL & DL. Resign players and let the money pit players go. You know, the ones that are good but only give 1-3 games a year if we are lucky. See where we are at and draft or sign accordingly. JMHO. Dead money on the same players every year has to stop.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
What makes you think he would do well in our system? He's a 50 year old statue at this point.
Kyle will get Brady killed.

Probably.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
What makes you think he would do well in our system? He's a 50 year old statue at this point.
Kyle will get Brady killed.

That's the bonus part.

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
What if, what if, what if....works both ways.

Rams also needed luck, every team needs luck. Brady doesn't guarantee anything. It's a one shot deal and if you miss you're facing a lot of headaches.

It's not about "saving capspace" it's about keeping the team as a whole stronger for longer.

I'd rather have multiple chances with Brock and/or Trey than one shot in the dark with Brady.

Get him for 10 or so mil, sure.....but I don't believe we're getting him for as big a discount as some are hoping.

The only way I would sign Brady would be if he took a low salary with incentives. Which he probably would not do. We have 2 young QB's. Find a reliable veteran that will not put us in salary cap nightmare.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
They'll stick with Lance more than likely.

Hopefully that ankle heels right. But this is the most likely path.

Agree 💯%.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
They'll stick with Lance more than likely.

Hopefully that ankle heels right. But this is the most likely path.

Of course. I'm not sure why the fan base is so blinded to this. The last couple of games even I was okay, we got something here with Brock but in the back of my mind still thinking they are going to see Lance thru.

I know it's a hard pill for some to swallow but think how generous Jed has been. It's been free reign on anything desired even paying Jimmy over $1m each game to back-up. They put a lot into the Trey pick and not just some ones. The scouting, the interviews, the character evaluation, football iq and on and on. They loved the kid. That didn't just disappear. It got sidelined is all. I bet they feel a whole lot more comfortable now with Brock. They have a safety net in both directions. They must play Trey for an entire season. Otherwise it's a total unknown. If Trey could have some Brock qualities but bigger arm, bigger physique etc. they would be thrilled.

I've said it so many times. I know I sound a broken record. The QB carousel has to stop. No more stop gaps for a year here a year there. Our QB long term future is already on this team. It's one of two. The other is going to be a really nice backup. The fan base should be happy but patient.

Knock it off with the middle age Brady. That's not what we need.

I don't see how to fit Brady in and not lose too much talent because of cap issues.

If Shanahan thought Lance was the man going into 22, I don't see why he wouldn't still think that going into 2023.

So I think Lance is the presumed starter. (and I still think the next great Niners QB, on a leap of faith lol).
Purdy will come back towards the end of camp hopefully and by default be the backup.
If Lance is not awesome and Purdy is looking back to this year's level in practice maybe he takes back over.

In the meantime they get a Nate Sudfeld level backup again because that is all will fit in the cap.

If Brady wants to take a big paycut to play for his boyhood team then all that changes, but I don't think they cut bait with Lance until they at least get to see him in some meaningful games.