LISTEN: State Of The 49ers With John Chapman →

There are 242 users in the forums

What do we do now at QB?

Shop Find 49ers gear online
  • jcs
  • Veteran
  • Posts: 38,742
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
They'll stick with Lance more than likely.

Hopefully that ankle heels right. But this is the most likely path.

Agree 💯%.

I don't, and I think this playoff loss has probably shown Kyle that availability is the best ability and Trey is already leaning towards having the injury bug. It's probably the biggest reason we've also attempted to replace Jimmy for two years now and with Brock out for who knows how long as a rookie. He's going to want someone like his original plan when he arrived to get cousins who is never hurt.

Cousins is probably not available but Brady sure is.
[ Edited by jcs on Jan 31, 2023 at 6:21 AM ]
Originally posted by bigmur49:
I don't see how to fit Brady in and not lose too much talent because of cap issues.

If Shanahan thought Lance was the man going into 22, I don't see why he wouldn't still think that going into 2023.

So I think Lance is the presumed starter. (and I still think the next great Niners QB, on a leap of faith lol).
Purdy will come back towards the end of camp hopefully and by default be the backup.
If Lance is not awesome and Purdy is looking back to this year's level in practice maybe he takes back over.

In the meantime they get a Nate Sudfeld level backup again because that is all will fit in the cap.

If Brady wants to take a big paycut to play for his boyhood team then all that changes, but I don't think they cut bait with Lance until they at least get to see him in some meaningful games.

Because he's injured too and may not be healthy enough in time. And if he's not, he loses valuable reps.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by bigmur49:
I don't see how to fit Brady in and not lose too much talent because of cap issues.

If Shanahan thought Lance was the man going into 22, I don't see why he wouldn't still think that going into 2023.

So I think Lance is the presumed starter. (and I still think the next great Niners QB, on a leap of faith lol).
Purdy will come back towards the end of camp hopefully and by default be the backup.
If Lance is not awesome and Purdy is looking back to this year's level in practice maybe he takes back over.

In the meantime they get a Nate Sudfeld level backup again because that is all will fit in the cap.

If Brady wants to take a big paycut to play for his boyhood team then all that changes, but I don't think they cut bait with Lance until they at least get to see him in some meaningful games.

Because he's injured too and may not be healthy enough in time. And if he's not, he loses valuable reps.

Why wouldn't he be ready. What month was clean-up surgery? He will have had plenty of time to heal.
Who wants to come here? There is a curse on a 49ers especially QBs. What happened on Sunday was not just unfortunate circumstances. Somewhere there is lady slowly stirring a big pot adding things like "Toenail of Brock,...Hair of Trey, ....Chiseled Chin of Jimmy...."
Originally posted by Rsrkshn:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Jimmy isn't going to negotiate that kind of contract in 2023 and the experienced rookie is unlikely to be ready for start of the season after missing most of the offseason and based on late July/early August return - he will likely need few more weeks to get his arm where it needs to be.

Jimmy & Purdy got hurt as pocket passers. Jimmy was chased out of pocket and Purdy was in the middle of the pocket. They also got hurt doing things they were capable of executing.

Jimmy is 100 percent gone in my mind. There's zero chance he would be back here unless his market is completely dry.

I referenced Jimmy G's restructured deal because it was very clearly a Lance insurance policy. For injury, given they were going to be running him a ton... and for substandard play. It points to them not being fully comfortable rolling into a season where they should be a contender with an unproven commodity at QB.

And since that point Lance couldn't make it two games without suffering a serious injury and missing yet another season of football. The idea that nothing has changed since they made the decision to roll with Lance as the starter is ludicrous.

No - lol this is not what happened. They tried trading Jimmy all offseason long for an 2nd rd pick and couldn't get a deal done. So, they brought him back on a restructured deal bc they didn't want to lose him for nothing. There was never a plan to play Jimmy. He didn't participate in any team drills in the whole offseason. Lol stop revising history.

Now when he signs a deal this offseason with another team - they'll at least get a 3rd rd comp pick.

Nothing has changed in the sense 49ers were contenders at the start of last season and they'll be contenders at the start of 2023 season. If they were willing to go with Lance last season then nothing should stop them from making the same decision this season since Purdy is injured and Jimmy is a FA and highly unlikely to return to the team.

If we are gonna say Lance couldn't make it 2 full games so we should give up on him then Purdy also couldn't make it thru half a season worth of games - and that isn't enough either.

This is the correct read IMO.
Nothing has changed from the beginning of last season and the upcoming season. Except for the team's plans being deferred for one year because of injury to the starter. I've argued it before and I'll restate: Trey Lance is the starter.

This talk of "now Shanahan can see what's possible with this team"? Lol! It's just a trumped up narrative to disguise a personal dislike. Shanahan could "see" that back when the team made a run at the Super Bowl. Yet he made an expensive move for a QB who would fit the mold of what he was looking for.

I'll also believe, based upon the coach's previous actions, that Purdy, as good as he has performed, is not the prototypical QB Shanahan is looking for. Purdy is:
1. Too small;
2. Limited in arm strength; and
3. Not fleet of foot and therefore not a serious run threat.
Trey Lance is all of those things.
Purdy is a fantastic back up. And someone he can fall back on should Lance not prove up to the task, but he is not the long term answer Shanahan covets.
Should Lance fail, it would be back to the well for Shanahan.
This is what I see from Shanahan. Time will tell.
Totally disagree if Purdy hadn't been injured he would've been your QB1 next year if Lance was his prototype it sure didn't show in Shanahan's play calling.
There is no way in hell Brady and shanny can co-exist. Brady is the GOAT. If shanny called a play brady didn't like there's no way he'd run it and he would tell shanny "I'm not running that." What's shanny gonna do to him? Shanny is a micromanager. Who do people think is gonna win that tug of war? BRADY WILL. And shanny would never tolerate that.
[ Edited by maximusdecimus on Jan 31, 2023 at 7:04 AM ]
Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Who wants to come here? There is a curse on a 49ers especially QBs. What happened on Sunday was not just unfortunate circumstances. Somewhere there is lady slowly stirring a big pot adding things like "Toenail of Brock,...Hair of Trey, ....Chiseled Chin of Jimmy...."
That sounds gross
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by bigmur49:
I don't see how to fit Brady in and not lose too much talent because of cap issues.

If Shanahan thought Lance was the man going into 22, I don't see why he wouldn't still think that going into 2023.

So I think Lance is the presumed starter. (and I still think the next great Niners QB, on a leap of faith lol).
Purdy will come back towards the end of camp hopefully and by default be the backup.
If Lance is not awesome and Purdy is looking back to this year's level in practice maybe he takes back over.

In the meantime they get a Nate Sudfeld level backup again because that is all will fit in the cap.

If Brady wants to take a big paycut to play for his boyhood team then all that changes, but I don't think they cut bait with Lance until they at least get to see him in some meaningful games.

Because he's injured too and may not be healthy enough in time. And if he's not, he loses valuable reps.

Why wouldn't he be ready. What month was clean-up surgery? He will have had plenty of time to heal.

Could have set backs, etc.
Just roll with Lance/Purdy, and get a viable 3rd. I'm not on board with the Rodgers/Brady scenario.
  • Kolohe
  • Hall of Fame
  • Posts: 62,089
The f**ked up part about this Brock Purdy injury is that, if they go with Lance and he loses a couple games what do you do when Brock is healthy enough to come back?? Do you bench Trey Lance for Purdy or do you keep riding Lance this season to see if he can develop?? I'll tell you one thing if you bench Lance, you might as well trade him.
Hypothetically, what is Purdy's market value (before injury / last week )
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Hypothetically, what is Purdy's market value (before injury / last week )

Before: $10,000,000
After: 10 cents
My guess is a vet backup like Dalton or Minshew and possibly another day 3 selection at QB. I don't think it's going to be Brady.
I thought this would be the one off-season we didn't have to hear about the QB.
Originally posted by SFrush:
My guess is a vet backup like Dalton or Minshew and possibly another day 3 selection at QB. I don't think it's going to be Brady.

It would have been nice to sign a real veteran QB to back up Purdy as soon Trey and Jimmy went down. We could have even picked up Mayfield.
[ Edited by ComeOnDeberg on Jan 31, 2023 at 8:35 AM ]
Share 49ersWebzone