What do we do now at QB?

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by frankieuc68:

Originally posted by thl408:
There's also the optics of acquiring Brady and how that affects the veterans on the team. To see the front office go out and make an impactful change can invigorate a locker room that is understandably bummed out by what just transpired. To go into 2023 with a vet leader at QB can give a sense of freshness to the season - that, "this year is different". The only hesitancy I have with Brady is how much $ he will command. He needs to understand that the 49ers are strapped for cash and that he will need to take a (literally) hometown discount to make it work.

That's a good point and that would resonate to the team that the front office is not f'n around. Hopefully Brady will not be asking too much this time.

Yup. That "All in" feeling. The 49ers have no more picks to trade (no valuable picks), so the next best thing is to sign an impactful free agent. The other question is how far can Brady throw? Damn he's old. The last time the 49ers entertained the idea of Brady, they watched all his 2019 throws and thought he was done. I don't see how watching all his 2022 throws is going to make SF coaches feel better. Although I admit that the two full games I watched of the Bucs this season were when they got waxed by SF and DAL.

Did fine vs Carolina when he aired it out to Evan's 3 times for TDs to put a dagger in Carolina. Lucky for him Kyle's offense is less about air yards. He just needs to make the quick reads put it in his playmakers hands and let them do all the work. It's the best situation for a 45 year old quarterback…

Good point.

Originally posted by thl408:
Someone mentioned his investment losses from the crypto currency FTX fiasco and how he's being sued. That makes me think any discount is a nope.

From a legal standpoint, it's highly unlikely he will face any substantial loss. If anything, that whole thing will be some lump sum / class-action type legal resolution. He (and the other "faces" of FTX) won't be on the hook for much.

Personally, I think you say, "look Tom, you can go out on bottom, like 2022, or you can come here, and have the best (because the other top places are not trading for you as a starter) place to win a Super Bowl, and go out on top. We can pay X."

I think Tom would come to SF in 2024 as a starter, and for a lot less than 30M. He is a competitive guy. There is zero chance he wants his legacy to be 2022 Tampa Bay. And Las Vegas ain't better. You are not running the AFC gauntlet with the Raiders. San Francisco gives him the best opportunity to go out on top, and I think money is not what will drive him to continue playing.

Originally posted by MBNINER90266:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
Brady is not going to be cheap so we won't sign him. We are not going to shell out 30M.

We won't. And he won't ask for 30M. I bet he's willing to come in the 20-22M range on a two year rental. That gives plenty of time to win one or two rings then hands the reigns to Brock.

What makes you think that? He wouldn't take less than 30 from TB and I just read something the other day that he will want the same or close from us. No home town discount. So what info do you have beyond hope?

His performance from last year. This isn't Tom Brady fresh off the NE bandwagon having won 6 SBs. This is Tom Brady who got beat up on a bad team that wants to leave this league on a winning note. A guy that is divorced from his wife, and would probably do well being close to his home around his parents. A guy who has family and friends (along with a hometown fanbase) that could cheer him on and make the real world distractions less apparent on gameday.

I think all of this is going through Brady's head. He was watching the Niners-Eagles game, and had something to say about feeling bad for the team once Brock went down.

He's still a Niner fan at heart, and this would be the best situation to come to KNOWING that the guys behind you are young and just want to learn, not compete with you for the starting job.

I can't imagine Kyle makes the same mistake twice. He would be instantly in the hot chair if he decided to go with Brock and/or Trey knowing Brady was available and the team loses another SB year.

Brady will play for less. And he'll sign for 2 years. And I'm damn excited about it bc this may end being one of the all time loaded rosters going into 2023, and the entire NFL world will be scared s**tless for it…

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by MBNINER90266:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
Brady is not going to be cheap so we won't sign him. We are not going to shell out 30M.

We won't. And he won't ask for 30M. I bet he's willing to come in the 20-22M range on a two year rental. That gives plenty of time to win one or two rings then hands the reigns to Brock.

What makes you think that? He wouldn't take less than 30 from TB and I just read something the other day that he will want the same or close from us. No home town discount. So what info do you have beyond hope?

Someone mentioned his investment losses from the crypto currency FTX fiasco and how he's being sued. That makes me think any discount is a nope.

He played for 15m last year. Why would he ask for double to come here and have to do less? Me thinks the 12-15 m price tag is worth a chance to win it all

His extension was 15m of new money and a lot of deferred money into void years. He didn't "play for 15m". The cap hit was low so Brady could have the best team around him but when Brady plays for another team next season Tampa will be left with a 35mil dead cap hit.

Brady is going to get his $$$ and for us to get him it would be a minimal cap hit while he's here and still paying him off after he's gone.

Originally posted by NinerJeff:
What do you mean what should we do at quarterback? Answer its #13 unless otherwise😉

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alright you all convinced me. im on the brady train! let's do this!!!

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Originally posted by thl408:
Someone mentioned his investment losses from the crypto currency FTX fiasco and how he's being sued. That makes me think any discount is a nope.

From a legal standpoint, it's highly unlikely he will face any substantial loss. If anything, that whole thing will be some lump sum / class-action type legal resolution. He (and the other "faces" of FTX) won't be on the hook for much.

Personally, I think you say, "look Tom, you can go out on bottom, like 2022, or you can come here, and have the best (because the other top places are not trading for you as a starter) place to win a Super Bowl, and go out on top. We can pay X."

I think Tom would come to SF in 2024 as a starter, and for a lot less than 30M. He is a competitive guy. There is zero chance he wants his legacy to be 2022 Tampa Bay. And Las Vegas ain't better. You are not running the AFC gauntlet with the Raiders. San Francisco gives him the best opportunity to go out on top, and I think money is not what will drive him to continue playing.

Good info if true, about the lawsuit. He did lose money on the investment, though. That's not ever coming back. I do think Tom is more about legacy than an extra few millions (easy for me to say).

Tom Brady for his final year. Trey Lance and Brock Purdy battle for backup duties and our 2024 team will benefit from learning behind TB12

Originally posted by theninermind:
Tom Brady for his final year. Trey Lance and Brock Purdy battle for backup duties and our 2024 team will benefit from learning behind TB12

I'd give him two years. Let him win the big one then decide if he wants to run it back one more time or pass the baton to the young 'uns.

this would be the most talented all star roster of all time with Brady. And if we can keep EMan on the cheap, move Lenoir to slot and keep the majority of D intact this becomes a formidable team that no one would want to face…

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by theninermind:
Tom Brady for his final year. Trey Lance and Brock Purdy battle for backup duties and our 2024 team will benefit from learning behind TB12

I'd give him two years. Let him win the big one then decide if he wants to run it back one more time or pass the baton to the young 'uns.

this would be the most talented all star roster of all time with Brady. And if we can keep EMan on the cheap, move Lenoir to slot and keep the majority of D intact this becomes a formidable team that no one would want to face…

Or we could continue to be the most injured team in the NFL like we have been over the last decade and signing Brady sets us back now and in the future (not seeing more of Lance and Purdy)

Originally posted by thl408:
Good info if true, about the lawsuit. He did lose money on the investment, though. That's not ever coming back. I do think Tom is more about legacy than an extra few millions (easy for me to say).

Of course the investment money is gone. But Brady does not strike me as a lot of players do, where they are loose with their money / broke a few years post retirement.

The only person or persons who will win in a lawsuit versus FTX will be the lawyers. Any and all the investors will just lose more money. Those that are smart enough to realize this are the ones with the money to make it happen. And they aren't going to throw more money at a losing investment. All the little fish, many as there may be, won't be in any position to push lawyers to take the case. All the risk would be on the lawyers at that point (time investment, etc.). Top tier lawyers, read, the ones who would be involved in any large scale case like this, don't operate that way.

I am a firm believer Brady will end up with the 49ers for a vastly discounted rate. Everything has lined up for him to go out in an amazing / rise from the ashes type way. Full disclosure, I would 100% rather have a healthy Lance and Purdy, but based on the current situation, I'll buy a Brady 49ers' jersey no problem.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by theninermind:
Tom Brady for his final year. Trey Lance and Brock Purdy battle for backup duties and our 2024 team will benefit from learning behind TB12

I'd give him two years. Let him win the big one then decide if he wants to run it back one more time or pass the baton to the young 'uns.

this would be the most talented all star roster of all time with Brady. And if we can keep EMan on the cheap, move Lenoir to slot and keep the majority of D intact this becomes a formidable team that no one would want to face…

Or we could continue to be the most injured team in the NFL like we have been over the last decade and signing Brady sets us back now and in the future (not seeing more of Lance and Purdy)

How so ? Brady gives us the best chance to win a ring now. All we have to decide is whether the risk is worth the cost. It doesn't set us back one bit. But I can assure you one more season of Trey or Brock and no SB….Kyle goes on the hot seat. This is the 49ers. You don't get rewarded by stockpiling 2nd place trophies.

Originally posted by DrEll:
How so ? Brady gives us the best chance to win a ring now. All we have to decide is whether the risk is worth the cost. It doesn't set us back one bit. But I can assure you one more season of Trey or Brock and no SB….Kyle goes on the hot seat. This is the 49ers. You don't get rewarded by stockpiling 2nd place trophies.

You should never pay for past results. 46 year old QB coming off his worst year since the mid 00s might not give the team the best chance.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by DrEll:
How so ? Brady gives us the best chance to win a ring now. All we have to decide is whether the risk is worth the cost. It doesn't set us back one bit. But I can assure you one more season of Trey or Brock and no SB….Kyle goes on the hot seat. This is the 49ers. You don't get rewarded by stockpiling 2nd place trophies.

You should never pay for past results. 46 year old QB coming off his worst year since the mid 00s might not give the team the best chance.

With this roster where he'll probably be expected to do the least amount since the mid 00s, he definitely gives us the best chance.

OPTION A)
1)TREY
2)BROCK
3)JIMMY OR BRADY

OPTION B)
1)TREY
2)JIMMY FOR CHEAP OR BRADY
3)BROCK (Tommy John is easily breakable after recovery.For baseball pitchers anyways. )