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Originally posted by lamontb:
Trey and Prudy will battle it out in my opinion

AGree, and I'll just add probably a day three QB draftee into the mix.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
There's no reason that the Niners can't draft a QB in one of the rounds next year. They have 11 picks and could package a couple to move up to the 2nd round if they wanted to or just use one of their 3rd rounders on a QB.
They should be drafting a QB every year considering how many QB's keep getting put on IR on this team.

AGREE..

The way Shanny loves to put his injured QB besides his 2nd Place Trophies, we should use one of our 5th rounder on Georgia's Bennett.
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Originally posted by NCommand:
How do you turn a 4 year HC job into 8? Just get your QB injured annually.

How do you turn a ordinary QB into a hall of famer, have a hall of fame OLine.
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Originally posted by Rathof44:
Hope and pray.

I think it needs a board sacrifice, Hoping and praying isn't working. I've seen NC's name bantered about as a sacrifice.... food for thought.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Oh come on mate. Suds has starter potential. He's 10x Johnson. Look at the preseason dimes.

Dont make me bump that Nate Davis thread.

Noooooooo! I can't stand that thread!
lol

Originally posted by fan49:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by fan49:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
What about David Carr, or Andy Dalton, or even Sam Darnold?

At this point, with the retirement of Brady I'm not too confident about our chances. I'm really traumatized at this point. 4 straight years being undone by one position. This is insane. This is STILL a SB roster but we can't keep a healthy QB. I say stack this position 4 deep, maybe 5 deep. Let Jimmy walk, go get Carr if the Raiders release him, and get another cheap - but talented - vet like Andy Dalton or Sam Darnold. We CANNOT go into the season with just Lance and Purdy. We're in a win-now situation. So I say we carry 4 QB's. I know that's extreme, but so is our QB situation. And we're not gonna solve it by doing the normal.

This is why the league needs to expand the rosters, or allow teams to carry emergency QB's on game days. I can't believe the league like having the 49ers TOTALLY out of QB's simply because teams are limited in the gameday rosters.

Our qb situation is maxed out at like 5m lol.Parage has to be parage just to sign bosa lol. We have 16 million. 30 for bosa maybe 6 for ward. What about aiyuk. What about rt? Then what about rookies? Then you want a qb lol

It is pretty clear JWard is not coming back.

PM has plenty of options. A current article at Spotrac notes that between Fred Warner and CWard, there is a total of $19M in base salary that can be converted to a signing bonus thereby freeing up the total. That is just one option. There are others.

Money isn't the issue when it comes to QB2/3.

First off 19 million plus 16 is 35 million. That covers bosa. If people all want to bring in a qb to compete or start they are tripping it's almost impossible. And what about rookies lol

Bosa already counts as 17-18mil under our 2023 cap so at most it would be an additional amount of money, not the whole lot.

Besides, contracts are almost never structured that way. Even if we re-signed him we'd probably still keep his 2023 cap hit at what it is now and possibly even lower it.

We should have the $$$ to go and get Trey/Purdy more support. They're going to need it.
Originally posted by Blake_Fever:
Originally posted by dj43:
Darnold played well enough down the stretch that he will most likely stay with Frank Reich. He will likely get a 3-year prove-it deal (a lot of incentives from a low base) to stay in Carolina.

David Carr will keep his gig with NFLN but little brother Derek might be available. However, LV isn't going to release him and we don't have the ammo to make a deal so that is off the table.

Dalton doesn't fit Shanny's system.
Really bad take.

Reich needs an established QB, so Carr and Jimmy are the best options.

Also, I've never hear of a "3-year" prove it deal.

Note the parenthetical inclusion.

As to Darnold, he had one bad game against the Saints, but apart from that, he had an average NFL rating albeit a shorten sample. I'll stand with what I posted.

As to him coming to SF -
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Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by English:
Remembering this season, I think that they will be looking to spend a couple of these mid round picks on qb, if there is anyone vaguely promising around. We are not going to head into next season with just Lance and an injured Purdy. I don't really like any of the FAs except Darnold.

I don't know English…maybe we should be honed in on some QB who started all 4 yrs in college, in a great conference, the Big 12, and who had good success in college ball, and then look at QBs who fit AND are still available late in the 7th rd.

For those mid rounders, I'd be looking at OLs, at least a couple and maybe even 3. I suspect Kyle is going to pay more attn to QB protection this yr than he has previously. This yrs' QB injuries were the straws that broke the camel's back, and KS will give a lot more emphasis to protecting his QBs than in recent yrs.

Being serious for a moment, i am betting on KS/JL being more interested in QBs who started all 4 yrs of college and have a great pedigree from a big time conference…Big 12, SEC, Pac 12, and whatever they call the old SW conference which also was called the big 12. What i think they will give less credence and importance to is a QB who is 6'4" , can throw the ball 90 yds, runs a 4.5 40, and can do 27 bench presses of 225 lbs. i think they are going to focus less on "tangibles" and more on how the QB actually played at a big time university for 4 yrs.

I certainly hope so. Purdy's future is bright. I fully expect him to recover and play well in 2023 and beyond. Kyle needs QB#3 to be ready as QB#2 and #1 since his System eats up QB's the way it eats up OLinemen and RB's. For sure draft offensive line because of Trent's age and the pending possible departure of McGlinchy. Also, better pass protectors than run blockers for Purdy's sake.
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/166840-shanahan-doesnt-jimmy-garoppolo-returning-looking-veteran-starting/

This, is NOT encouraging!



Hummmm, I wonder what the vets on the team think of this
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/166840-shanahan-doesnt-jimmy-garoppolo-returning-looking-veteran-starting/

This, is NOT encouraging!



Hummmm, I wonder what the vets on the team think of this

It's all coach-talk until the final results of Purdy's surgery.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/166840-shanahan-doesnt-jimmy-garoppolo-returning-looking-veteran-starting/

This, is NOT encouraging!



Hummmm, I wonder what the vets on the team think of this

It's all coach-talk until the final results of Purdy's surgery.

I agree, nothing matters until we know the results of recovery and timetable on a Purdy return. 3 months until he starts a throwing program and 6 months to be a full go is an encouraging timeline. He would only miss OTAs and minicamp. He would be able to attend and take in the information, however. Despite his injury he will still workout and improve his overall fitness. He's QB #1 if this holds true. Trey Lance, as much as I like him and think he hasn't had a fair shot, would be QB #2, IMO.

If we have a healthy Purdy/Lance going into TC I don't think we need a "veteran" in the room. Most of the veteran QBs available aren't any good. Rather take a flier on another young guy with mid-late round picks.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/166840-shanahan-doesnt-jimmy-garoppolo-returning-looking-veteran-starting/

This, is NOT encouraging!



Hummmm, I wonder what the vets on the team think of this

It's all coach-talk until the final results of Purdy's surgery.

Yeah, but it sounds like Shanahan is content with drafting a rookie in the late round to back up Trey Lance. This is assuming that Brock Purdy isn't ready to start the season. Which he may not be.

Drafting a rookie to back up Trey Lance does bother me a bit.
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/166840-shanahan-doesnt-jimmy-garoppolo-returning-looking-veteran-starting/

This, is NOT encouraging!



Hummmm, I wonder what the vets on the team think of this

It's all coach-talk until the final results of Purdy's surgery.

Yeah, but it sounds like Shanahan is content with drafting a rookie in the late round to back up Trey Lance. This is assuming that Brock Purdy isn't ready to start the season. Which he may not be.

Drafting a rookie to back up Trey Lance does bother me a bit.

NOT to worry, 2nd Place Kyle will just give CJ a 3million guaranteed contract plus a dozen surfboard to sign back w/us.
Looks like Phoenix better get busy in the Draft War Room thread with mid-to-late round potential QB selections!
[ Edited by billbird2111 on Feb 1, 2023 at 1:19 PM ]
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