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Originally posted by Leathaface:
I agree, nothing matters until we know the results of recovery and timetable on a Purdy return. 3 months until he starts a throwing program and 6 months to be a full go is an encouraging timeline. He would only miss OTAs and minicamp. He would be able to attend and take in the information, however. Despite his injury he will still workout and improve his overall fitness. He's QB #1 if this holds true. Trey Lance, as much as I like him and think he hasn't had a fair shot, would be QB #2, IMO.

If we have a healthy Purdy/Lance going into TC I don't think we need a "veteran" in the room. Most of the veteran QBs available aren't any good. Rather take a flier on another young guy with mid-late round picks.

#DraftHaener
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
I agree, nothing matters until we know the results of recovery and timetable on a Purdy return. 3 months until he starts a throwing program and 6 months to be a full go is an encouraging timeline. He would only miss OTAs and minicamp. He would be able to attend and take in the information, however. Despite his injury he will still workout and improve his overall fitness. He's QB #1 if this holds true. Trey Lance, as much as I like him and think he hasn't had a fair shot, would be QB #2, IMO.

If we have a healthy Purdy/Lance going into TC I don't think we need a "veteran" in the room. Most of the veteran QBs available aren't any good. Rather take a flier on another young guy with mid-late round picks.

#DraftHaener

Word is the Cowboys want Jake.
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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/166840-shanahan-doesnt-jimmy-garoppolo-returning-looking-veteran-starting/

This, is NOT encouraging!



Hummmm, I wonder what the vets on the team think of this

Yep like I said. You're about to see the Kyle Shanahan era go down in flames. 7 years no dividends. Sticking to his "guns" and going with ?quarterbacking on a loaded offense.

EPIC FAIL !
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Hope and pray.

I think it needs a board sacrifice, Hoping and praying isn't working. I've seen NC's name bantered about as a sacrifice.... food for thought.

I vote yes.
While everybody is saying we Must get a starter over Lance, I'm saying we Can't get a starter over Lance. With his lack of game experiene, we don't know what he can become, we have 3 firsts tied up in him, he has no trade value at this point, and even before Purdy got hurt I was thinking we must keep him so that sooner or later he will get a chance to prove himself to the rest of the league. That's the only way we can recoup some draft capital. And we Can't pay someone like Carr etc and sign the guys we need to sign to keep us strong.

Come on people. Nobody thought Purdy could get it done. When everybody was saying Mac Jones had proven he had a very quick mind, Kyle was saying Wait, we think Trey and not Mac has shown he's got the best mind in that draft. Who among us can dismiss that without a reasonable tryout. Kyle also says you get better at football by playing football. How many collegiate games has Lance played vs Purdy. Our best plan is Still to keep Lance, give him the off season reps, coach him up, and keep him for the backup for the next two cheap rookie contract years. Our backup just might have to play at least the start of this year.

Sure it's a gamble, but losing our very high talent team to a blown cap is a sure and lasting disaster that will eventually hurt Purdy and the Faithful, and put off for another generation and coach that dust spot where 6 belongs. You want trophies? You must be competetive every year, because on any given year, you may get a broken leg or Tommy John surgery. Even in the 80's, we didn't win the SB every year, but we always made sure we still had a shot the next. We Have a quarterback.
[ Edited by BOI49er on Feb 1, 2023 at 2:16 PM ]
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/166840-shanahan-doesnt-jimmy-garoppolo-returning-looking-veteran-starting/

This, is NOT encouraging!



Hummmm, I wonder what the vets on the team think of this

Yep like I said. You're about to see the Kyle Shanahan era go down in flames. 7 years no dividends. Sticking to his "guns" and going with ?quarterbacking on a loaded offense.

EPIC FAIL !

We almost went to the Superbowl. How many other NFL teams could say that?
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
I agree, nothing matters until we know the results of recovery and timetable on a Purdy return. 3 months until he starts a throwing program and 6 months to be a full go is an encouraging timeline. He would only miss OTAs and minicamp. He would be able to attend and take in the information, however. Despite his injury he will still workout and improve his overall fitness. He's QB #1 if this holds true. Trey Lance, as much as I like him and think he hasn't had a fair shot, would be QB #2, IMO.

If we have a healthy Purdy/Lance going into TC I don't think we need a "veteran" in the room. Most of the veteran QBs available aren't any good. Rather take a flier on another young guy with mid-late round picks.

#DraftHaener

Word is the Cowboys want Jake.

Cowboys can go eat a bag of..a whole bottle of maraschino cherries.
Originally posted by BOI49er:
While everybody is saying we Must get a starter over Lance, I'm saying we Can't get a starter over Lance. With his lack of game experiene, we don't know what he can become, we have 3 firsts tied up in him, he has no trade value at this point, and even before Purdy got hurt I was thinking we must keep him so that sooner or later he will get a chance to prove himself to the rest of the league. That's the only way we can recoup some draft capital. And we Can't pay someone like Carr etc and sign the guys we need to sign to keep us strong.

Come on people. Nobody thought Purdy could get it done. When everybody was saying Mac Jones had proven he had a very quick mind, Kyle was saying Wait, we think Trey and not Mac has shown he's got the best mind in that draft. Who among us can dismiss that without a reasonable tryout. Kyle also says you get better at football by playing football. How many collegiate games has Lance played vs Purdy. Our best plan is Still to keep Lance, give him the off season reps, coach him up, and keep him for the backup for the next two cheap rookie contract years. Our backup just might have to play at least the start of this year.

Sure it's a gamble, but losing our very high talent team to a blown cap is a sure and lasting disaster that will eventually hurt Purdy and the Faithful, and put off for another generation and coach that dust spot where 6 belongs. You want trophies? You must be competetive every year, because on any given year, you may get a broken leg or Tommy John surgery. Even in the 80's, we didn't win the SB every year, but we always made sure we still had a shot the next.

My thoughts.. bring in JG or some equivalent vet who can steer it. Hope would be TL shows in summer he's miles beyond and it is his job at that point. If TL can't beat out someone like that, how can you win on Sundays if you can't beat out one guy in Summer?

BP out of the picture in my mind, until his health permits him to be in the picture. I like your post. TL ain't going nowhere. He's under contract.
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
I agree, nothing matters until we know the results of recovery and timetable on a Purdy return. 3 months until he starts a throwing program and 6 months to be a full go is an encouraging timeline. He would only miss OTAs and minicamp. He would be able to attend and take in the information, however. Despite his injury he will still workout and improve his overall fitness. He's QB #1 if this holds true. Trey Lance, as much as I like him and think he hasn't had a fair shot, would be QB #2, IMO.

If we have a healthy Purdy/Lance going into TC I don't think we need a "veteran" in the room. Most of the veteran QBs available aren't any good. Rather take a flier on another young guy with mid-late round picks.

#DraftHaener

Word is the Cowboys want Jake.

I like Haener but he was a bit injury prone himself in college.
But
Originally posted by BOI49er:
While everybody is saying we Must get a starter over Lance, I'm saying we Can't get a starter over Lance. With his lack of game experiene, we don't know what he can become, we have 3 firsts tied up in him, he has no trade value at this point, and even before Purdy got hurt I was thinking we must keep him so that sooner or later he will get a chance to prove himself to the rest of the league. That's the only way we can recoup some draft capital. And we Can't pay someone like Carr etc and sign the guys we need to sign to keep us strong.

Come on people. Nobody thought Purdy could get it done. When everybody was saying Mac Jones had proven he had a very quick mind, Kyle was saying Wait, we think Trey and not Mac has shown he's got the best mind in that draft. Who among us can dismiss that without a reasonable tryout. Kyle also says you get better at football by playing football. How many collegiate games has Lance played vs Purdy. Our best plan is Still to keep Lance, give him the off season reps, coach him up, and keep him for the backup for the next two cheap rookie contract years. Our backup just might have to play at least the start of this year.

Sure it's a gamble, but losing our very high talent team to a blown cap is a sure and lasting disaster that will eventually hurt Purdy and the Faithful, and put off for another generation and coach that dust spot where 6 belongs. You want trophies? You must be competetive every year, because on any given year, you may get a broken leg or Tommy John surgery. Even in the 80's, we didn't win the SB every year, but we always made sure we still had a shot the next.

But we have seen Lance. Lance hasn't shown as much in his, what 4 games compared to what Purdy has shown in say his first 4 starts.
QB position is looking very Meh.

Hopefully, Purdy can come back as good as he was before because if not, then it's not looking so good.

Might help make Trent Williams decision easier.
[ Edited by Bay2Bay9erAllday on Feb 1, 2023 at 2:21 PM ]
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
While everybody is saying we Must get a starter over Lance, I'm saying we Can't get a starter over Lance. With his lack of game experiene, we don't know what he can become, we have 3 firsts tied up in him, he has no trade value at this point, and even before Purdy got hurt I was thinking we must keep him so that sooner or later he will get a chance to prove himself to the rest of the league. That's the only way we can recoup some draft capital. And we Can't pay someone like Carr etc and sign the guys we need to sign to keep us strong.

Come on people. Nobody thought Purdy could get it done. When everybody was saying Mac Jones had proven he had a very quick mind, Kyle was saying Wait, we think Trey and not Mac has shown he's got the best mind in that draft. Who among us can dismiss that without a reasonable tryout. Kyle also says you get better at football by playing football. How many collegiate games has Lance played vs Purdy. Our best plan is Still to keep Lance, give him the off season reps, coach him up, and keep him for the backup for the next two cheap rookie contract years. Our backup just might have to play at least the start of this year.

Sure it's a gamble, but losing our very high talent team to a blown cap is a sure and lasting disaster that will eventually hurt Purdy and the Faithful, and put off for another generation and coach that dust spot where 6 belongs. You want trophies? You must be competetive every year, because on any given year, you may get a broken leg or Tommy John surgery. Even in the 80's, we didn't win the SB every year, but we always made sure we still had a shot the next.

My thoughts.. bring in JG or some equivalent vet who can steer it. Hope would be TL shows in summer he's miles beyond and it is his job at that point. If TL can't beat out someone like that, how can you win on Sundays if you can't beat out one guy in Summer?

BP out of the picture in my mind, until his health permits him to be in the picture. I like your post. TL ain't going nowhere. He's under contract.

JG can get starter money. I don't want to pay it.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
My thoughts.. bring in JG or some equivalent vet who can steer it. Hope would be TL shows in summer he's miles beyond and it is his job at that point. If TL can't beat out someone like that, how can you win on Sundays if you can't beat out one guy in Summer?

BP out of the picture in my mind, until his health permits him to be in the picture. I like your post. TL ain't going nowhere. He's under contract.

JG or the equivalent aren't gonna sign a reduced contract to compete for the qb position.
With the Brady retirement , it is imperative that we resign Josh Johnson
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
My thoughts.. bring in JG or some equivalent vet who can steer it. Hope would be TL shows in summer he's miles beyond and it is his job at that point. If TL can't beat out someone like that, how can you win on Sundays if you can't beat out one guy in Summer?

BP out of the picture in my mind, until his health permits him to be in the picture. I like your post. TL ain't going nowhere. He's under contract.

JG or the equivalent aren't gonna sign a reduced contract to compete for the qb position.

There's a lot of dudes out there.. M Ryan would certainly take a discount after that miserable year. He has won MVP with Shanny. Ages ago and he's not at that level we all know, but there is a relationship there. Ryan could take a discount to ring chase, it's what he is missing. A ton of guys and with 2 rook QB contract, we got money to spend at that spot. What about Winston if avail, would be interesting with these weapons to see what happens. His price may be down with his down year.
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