Who will be the next 49ers Defensive Coordinator? | Page 5

Feb 2, 2023 at 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I like this go internal with someone who knows what he have been doing last couple years.. maintain our approach.. should have been grooming for the Ryans HC move which we all knew was coming. the good kind of grooming I mean

When Saleh left, it was clear that Ryans was next man up. This time around I don't get the feeling that they're as excited about the people already inside the building. Just as you can be a really good coordinator but not a strong HC prospect, you can be a very good position coach without being a strong coordinator prospect.

You can know the system and know the players but playcalling is an art and not everyone is cut out for it.

Feb 2, 2023 at 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by OKC49erFan:

Originally posted by DrEll:
And we lost Fangio. Great. Been setting it up all year for him to eventually take over, only to see him walk. Christ, who woulda thought one week ago that we were about to fall off the deep end starting Sunday.

No quarterback.
No D coach.
No f**king clue.

You ok?

He's in a bad mood today. Step lightly.

Feb 2, 2023 at 11:17 AM

#63

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Like all old dick's, the big dick went to Miami. Who's next?

Feb 2, 2023 at 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 49erfaninAZ:
They are considering Kocurek per Josina Anderson

Probably, our best bet to keep it in house.

He shouldn't even be in the mix, personally.

He's know's our personnel, that gives him a head start, JMO.

Knowing the personnel and knowing how to navigate them into a #1 defense is another thing.

How do you know he can't navigate them?

He can't even navigate Kinlaw to stay low and upright.

Know one can.

Feb 2, 2023 at 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I like this go internal with someone who knows what he have been doing last couple years.. maintain our approach.. should have been grooming for the Ryans HC move which we all knew was coming. the good kind of grooming I mean

When Saleh left, it was clear that Ryans was next Aa up. This time around I don't get the feeling11⅙ that they're as excited about the people already inside the building. Just as you can be a really good coordinator but not a strong HC prospect, you can be a very good position coach without being a strong coordinator prospect.

You can know the system and know the players but playcalling is an art and not everyone is cut out for it.

Feb 2, 2023 at 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 49erfaninAZ:
They are considering Kocurek per Josina Anderson

Probably, our best bet to keep it in house.

He shouldn't even be in the mix, personally.

He's know's our personnel, that gives him a head start, JMO.

Knowing the personnel and knowing how to navigate them into a #1 defense is another thing.

How do you know he can't navigate them?

He can't even navigate Kinlaw to stay low and upright.

Know one can.

[ Edited by mayo49 on Feb 2, 2023 at 11:22 AM ]

Feb 2, 2023 at 11:23 AM

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"I love our defensive staff. I love our defense. I'm trying to get something where we don't have to turn much over. I would love to keep our same staff, so I'm going to talk to some guys on our staff. I'm going to talk to some guys outside of our staff, and hopefully, whichever way we decide to go, whether we bring in a new guy or not, that it's someone who can work with who we have and what we've accomplished here because I love the scheme that we run."
-KS

Feb 2, 2023 at 11:24 AM

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Any college dark horses out there?

Feb 2, 2023 at 11:27 AM

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It's going to be interesting if they bring in someone from the outside because Kyle and the staff are going to have to essentially teach them the defense since this scheme is unique to SF.

[ Edited by Heroism on Feb 2, 2023 at 11:28 AM ]

Feb 2, 2023 at 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by Heroism:
It's going to be interesting if they bring in someone from the outside because Kyle and the staff are going to have to essentially teach them the defense since this scheme is unique to SF.

If they promote Kocurek, you eliminate that.

[ Edited by mayo49 on Feb 2, 2023 at 11:31 AM ]

Feb 2, 2023 at 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by billbird2111:
"I love our defensive staff. I love our defense. I'm trying to get something where we don't have to turn much over. I would love to keep our same staff, so I'm going to talk to some guys on our staff. I'm going to talk to some guys outside of our staff, and hopefully, whichever way we decide to go, whether we bring in a new guy or not, that it's someone who can work with who we have and what we've accomplished here because I love the scheme that we run."
-KS

Fangio was just too far removed from what the 49ers are now. Asking an old dog to learn new tricks to come here was not going to happen.

Feb 2, 2023 at 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by mayo49:
If they promote Kocurek, you eliminate that.

see below

Originally posted by Heroism:
It's likely bs seeing as Kris Kocurek has said multiple times that he doesn't want to be a DC.

@10:51

Kocurek connects with his players in part because they know he has no aspirations to be a head coach or a coordinator. His passion is the trenches
https://www.nfl.com/news/d-line-junkie-kris-kocurek-the-force-behind-49ers-relentless-un-0ap3000001099898

Feb 2, 2023 at 11:37 AM

#73

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Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by mayo49:
If they promote Kocurek, you eliminate that.

see below

Originally posted by Heroism:
It's likely bs seeing as Kris Kocurek has said multiple times that he doesn't want to be a DC.

@10:51

Kocurek connects with his players in part because they know he has no aspirations to be a head coach or a coordinator. His passion is the trenches
https://www.nfl.com/news/d-line-junkie-kris-kocurek-the-force-behind-49ers-relentless-un-0ap3000001099898

Disappointing if true. We'll see what happens, maybe a bump in money will make him change his tune.

Feb 2, 2023 at 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by DrEll:
And we lost Fangio. Great. Been setting it up all year for him to eventually take over, only to see him walk. Christ, who woulda thought one week ago that we were about to fall off the deep end starting Sunday.

No quarterback.
No D coach.
No f**king clue.

No big loss, Fangio is a bad scheme fit.

Feb 2, 2023 at 11:39 AM

#75

Heroism
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Disappointing if true. We'll see what happens, maybe a bump in money will make him change his tune.

What do you mean if true? Do you think that's CGI/deep fake Kris Kocurek in the video interview or something?

Kocurek has to be the highest paid DL coach. I don't think he's worried about money.

[ Edited by Heroism on Feb 2, 2023 at 11:42 AM ]