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Who will be the next 49ers Defensive Coordinator?
Who will be the next 49ers Defensive Coordinator?
Feb 2, 2023 at 11:39 AM
- picklejuice
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I like the idea of promoting from within at this point. The foundation/system, supporting coaching staff is already established by Demeco and Saleh.
Feb 2, 2023 at 11:40 AM
- Schulzy
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When you don't have the successor in waiting like Ryans was when Saleh left (and they don't this time), you need to get the best guy. And that should've been Fangio. Should have given him a blank check.
And not listen to the guys on here or guys in the media like Dave Lombardi who tell you that he wasn't hired because Fangio runs a 3-4. Any DC worth his weight, and Fangio is that guy, can adjust the front based on his personnel.
This is a CRITICAL hire because the QB position has so many question marks.
And not listen to the guys on here or guys in the media like Dave Lombardi who tell you that he wasn't hired because Fangio runs a 3-4. Any DC worth his weight, and Fangio is that guy, can adjust the front based on his personnel.
This is a CRITICAL hire because the QB position has so many question marks.
Feb 2, 2023 at 11:42 AM
- Tigerlaw
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Kris Richard has a reputation as a good passing game defensive specialist and Kocurek would have the DL stuff handled
Thats my dark horse guy.
Thats my dark horse guy.
Feb 2, 2023 at 11:45 AM
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Kocurek.
Feb 2, 2023 at 11:46 AM
- fan49
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I like ejiro every better than all of the options
Feb 2, 2023 at 11:49 AM
- DrEll
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Originally posted by Schulzy:
When you don't have the successor in waiting like Ryans was when Saleh left (and they don't this time), you need to get the best guy. And that should've been Fangio. Should have given him a blank check.
And not listen to the guys on here or guys in the media like Dave Lombardi who tell you that he wasn't hired because Fangio runs a 3-4. Any DC worth his weight, and Fangio is that guy, can adjust the front based on his personnel.
This is a CRITICAL hire because the QB position has so many question marks.
Someone gets it.
Feb 2, 2023 at 11:49 AM
- Heroism
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I wonder if they'll revisit Ken Norton. He was brought in under Saleh before he dipped out a few weeks later. Some of the Seattle X's and O's nerds I follow loved his evolution as a DC and felt like he got shafted after all the injuries. Some fans want a young, high energy guy like Saleh and DeMeco. Norton fits the part.
I think he'd be a good candidate to come in and learn the 49ers' defense.
I think he'd be a good candidate to come in and learn the 49ers' defense.
[ Edited by Heroism on Feb 2, 2023 at 11:50 AM ]
Feb 2, 2023 at 11:49 AM
- Tigerlaw
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Originally posted by fan49:
I like ejiro every better than all of the options
he is under contract as DC with Denver...cant grab him if Payton wants to keep him
Feb 2, 2023 at 11:51 AM
- goldlame2013
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You guys who romanticize the "Lord Fangio" days crack me up. The defense wasn't that good. "Wow did you see that hit Donte Whitner put on that guy. Did you see that hit from Cowboy? Uhm, did they stop anybody good? Nope. Didn't the defense have track marks from Beast Mode running all over them lol? Didn't the Baltimore offense continue to rough up and beat up the defense. Didn't Eli Manning eat up that vaunted Fangio defense on a regular basis? LOL, some of you are rewriting history making the defense seem great because Donte "Hitner" put on some loud smacks, we didn't stop anybody, but at least we were loud.
Feb 2, 2023 at 11:51 AM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by Schulzy:
When you don't have the successor in waiting like Ryans was when Saleh left (and they don't this time), you need to get the best guy. And that should've been Fangio. Should have given him a blank check.
And not listen to the guys on here or guys in the media like Dave Lombardi who tell you that he wasn't hired because Fangio runs a 3-4. Any DC worth his weight, and Fangio is that guy, can adjust the front based on his personnel.
This is a CRITICAL hire because the QB position has so many question marks.
Fangio had Khalil Mack dropping into coverage nearly as often as he had him rushing the passer. I like him a lot but my guess is that he wasn't willing to be flexible on how he ran his defense up front. He's been a strict 3-4 guy all his career so the fit may just have not been there.
Feb 2, 2023 at 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by goldlame2013:
You guys who romanticize the "Lord Fangio" days crack me up. The defense wasn't that good. "Wow did you see that hit Donte Whitner put on that guy. Did you see that hit from Cowboy? Uhm, did they stop anybody good? Nope. Didn't the defense have track marks from Beast Mode running all over them lol? Didn't the Baltimore offense continue to rough up and beat up the defense. Didn't Eli Manning eat up that vaunted Fangio defense on a regular basis? LOL, some of you are rewriting history making the defense seem great because Donte "Hitner" put on some loud smacks, we didn't stop anybody, but at least we were loud.
Worst take I've seen here since that "Steph Curry sucks and overrated" post during last years finals
Feb 2, 2023 at 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Originally posted by fan49:
I like ejiro every better than all of the options
he is under contract as DC with Denver...cant grab him if Payton wants to keep him
He's also another strict 3-4 guy with his personnel up front.
Feb 2, 2023 at 11:54 AM
- SLCNiner
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Originally posted by Heroism:
I wonder if they'll revisit Ken Norton. He was brought in under Saleh before he dipped out a few weeks later. Some of the Seattle X's and O's nerds I follow loved his evolution as a DC and felt like he got shafted after all the injuries. Some fans want a young, high energy guy like Saleh and DeMeco. Norton fits the part.
I think he'd be a good candidate to come in and learn the 49ers' defense.
Wouldn't it be better to hire someone who already knows the D? This opening has to be one of the most sought after in the league between the players we have and likelihood of getting a HC gig after. Partly why I'm confused Fangio didn't take it. I wonder if there was just a system mismatch with him….
Feb 2, 2023 at 11:54 AM
- Cisco0623
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
When you don't have the successor in waiting like Ryans was when Saleh left (and they don't this time), you need to get the best guy. And that should've been Fangio. Should have given him a blank check.
And not listen to the guys on here or guys in the media like Dave Lombardi who tell you that he wasn't hired because Fangio runs a 3-4. Any DC worth his weight, and Fangio is that guy, can adjust the front based on his personnel.
This is a CRITICAL hire because the QB position has so many question marks.
Fangio had Khalil Mack dropping into coverage nearly as often as he had him rushing the passer. I like him a lot but my guess is that he wasn't willing to be flexible on how he ran his defense up front. He's been a strict 3-4 guy all his career so the fit may just have not been there.
I agree with this. It didn't make much sense.
Feb 2, 2023 at 11:57 AM
- Tigerlaw
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Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by Heroism:
I wonder if they'll revisit Ken Norton. He was brought in under Saleh before he dipped out a few weeks later. Some of the Seattle X's and O's nerds I follow loved his evolution as a DC and felt like he got shafted after all the injuries. Some fans want a young, high energy guy like Saleh and DeMeco. Norton fits the part.
I think he'd be a good candidate to come in and learn the 49ers' defense.
Wouldn't it be better to hire someone who already knows the D? This opening has to be one of the most sought after in the league between the players we have and likelihood of getting a HC gig after. Partly why I'm confused Fangio didn't take it. I wonder if there was just a system mismatch with him….
Knowing the D and designing a scheme doesnt make for a good DC.
DC has to call plays live during a game and have a feel for what the offense is doing.