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Who will be the next 49ers Defensive Coordinator?

  • thl408
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
When you don't have the successor in waiting like Ryans was when Saleh left (and they don't this time), you need to get the best guy. And that should've been Fangio. Should have given him a blank check.

And not listen to the guys on here or guys in the media like Dave Lombardi who tell you that he wasn't hired because Fangio runs a 3-4. Any DC worth his weight, and Fangio is that guy, can adjust the front based on his personnel.

This is a CRITICAL hire because the QB position has so many question marks.

Fangio had Khalil Mack dropping into coverage nearly as often as he had him rushing the passer. I like him a lot but my guess is that he wasn't willing to be flexible on how he ran his defense up front. He's been a strict 3-4 guy all his career so the fit may just have not been there.

I don't agree with those saying "Vic can run a 4-3 so have him do that". It is evident that he strongly believes in his 3-4 system - everywhere he's gone in the NFL he's coached a 3-4. You should not ask an established, proven coach to come in and do something he doesn't strongly believe in from a philosophical standpoint (one gapping, 4-3).
Anyway, the Fangio ship has sailed and with Kyle coming out and saying he likes the scheme that is currently in place, that's enough for me to think Vic was not offered the job because he would have changed things up.
  • fan49
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[ Edited by fan49 on Feb 2, 2023 at 12:00 PM ]
Originally posted by fan49:
I like ejiro evero

Once again, same problem as with Fangio, he likes his odd fronts in base. If Shanahan wasn't willing to change the current scheme up for Fangio, he certainly isn't going to do it for a guy with one year as an NFL DC.
  • mayo49
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Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Disappointing if true. We'll see what happens, maybe a bump in money will make him change his tune.

What do you mean if true? Do you think that's CGI/deep fake Kris Kocurek in the video interview or something?

Kocurek has to be the highest paid DL coach. I don't think he's worried about money.

Yeah, what a shame.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Feb 2, 2023 at 12:03 PM ]
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Originally posted by goldlame2013:
You guys who romanticize the "Lord Fangio" days crack me up. The defense wasn't that good. "Wow did you see that hit Donte Whitner put on that guy. Did you see that hit from Cowboy? Uhm, did they stop anybody good? Nope. Didn't the defense have track marks from Beast Mode running all over them lol? Didn't the Baltimore offense continue to rough up and beat up the defense. Didn't Eli Manning eat up that vaunted Fangio defense on a regular basis? LOL, some of you are rewriting history making the defense seem great because Donte "Hitner" put on some loud smacks, we didn't stop anybody, but at least we were loud.

Worst take I've seen here since that "Steph Curry sucks and overrated" post during last years finals

But it's facts.
A little more info on Chris Harris who really seems to have done an outstanding job coaching the DB's in Washington and with the Chargers. The more I read about him, the more he sounds like another Saleh/DeMeco kind of coach.


The former safety, who produced 16 interceptions in his seven-year NFL career, helped developed multiple Commanders contributors in the secondary during his time with the franchise, and the results of his tutelage really came to fruition in 2022.

Under Harris' watch, Darrick Forrest emerged as Washington's biggest breakout player this past season. In addition to Forrest's ascension, Benjamin St-Juste took a promising step (particularly when asked to line up on the outside following the trade of William Jackson III). Those two failed to generate much excitement as rookies yet both seriously progressed in their second campaigns with Harris.

Then there's Kam Curl, who joined the organization in the same offseason that Harris did and has blossomed into a do-it-all defender after his initial selection in the draft's seventh and final round. Curl is in line for a major pay raise should the team opt to negotiate one in the coming months.

Even established veterans, such as Kendall Fuller and Bobby McCain, have seemed to vibe quite well with Harris. That pair won't compete for Pro Bowls but it has seen a ton of action and been effective for the Commanders.



but overall, Harris' collection of guys finished second in passing yards allowed in 2020, 29th in 2021 (OK, that was a very poor effort) and fourth in 2022.



Harris' voice was often the loudest at Washington's training camp practices — he had more energy than a puppy at the dog park whose water bowl was accidentally filled with espresso. It's almost inevitable that the summer will be quieter without him. Hopefully the secondary's output won't trend the same way.


https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/commanders/dont-underestimate-commanders-loss-defensive-backs-coach


In his first year there, the Chargers not only led the NFL with 18 interceptions, but cornerback Casey Hayward also led the league with seven picks en route to making his first Pro Bowl. The team recorded 18 interceptions again the next season, which was fourth-most in the NFL, and Hayward made his second straight Pro Bowl appearance.

In 2018, Harris coached a pair of first-team All-Pros in Desmond King II and Derwin James. King, a fifth-round pick in 2017, recorded three interceptions and a pick-six, while James -- a first-round pick in 2018 -- became the first rookie in Chargers franchise history to record 100 or more tackles.



Harris is a 40-year-old ascending coach that played eight seasons (2005-12) in the league. The Commanders allowed the league's fourth-fewest passing yards (3,252) this season. They allowed a stingy 191.3 passing yards per contest. Harris would be a terrific addition for Tennessee's coaching staff.


Was a serious contender for DC positions in Indy and Philadelphia the last few years.

Harris would most likely keep a 4-3 defense

As the team is currently constructed, the Eagles should remain a 4-3 defense. The Eagles already have the pass rushers needed to stay in a 4-3. If the Eagles were looking to switch to a 3-4 defense, it would require using more draft picks and spending in free agency, resources that are not available to the Eagles at this time.

It also would help the Eagles in terms of what Harris has learned from Washington Football Team head coach Ron Rivera. Rivera is one of the better defensive minds currently coaching in the game. Washington's defensive line is one of the team's strengths, just as it is with the Eagles. If Harris takes any concepts with him from Washington, it could work out in the long run.
Harris sounds exactly like the kind of guy Kyle hires.
This is a critical hire.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Harris sounds exactly like the kind of guy Kyle hires.

Can already picture him losing his s**t on the sidelines after the defense makes a big play.



  • mayo49
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Who do you like, Command?
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
A little more info on Chris Harris who really seems to have done an outstanding job coaching the DB's in Washington and with the Chargers. The more I read about him, the more he sounds like another Saleh/DeMeco kind of coach.


The former safety, who produced 16 interceptions in his seven-year NFL career, helped developed multiple Commanders contributors in the secondary during his time with the franchise, and the results of his tutelage really came to fruition in 2022.

Under Harris' watch, Darrick Forrest emerged as Washington's biggest breakout player this past season. In addition to Forrest's ascension, Benjamin St-Juste took a promising step (particularly when asked to line up on the outside following the trade of William Jackson III). Those two failed to generate much excitement as rookies yet both seriously progressed in their second campaigns with Harris.

Then there's Kam Curl, who joined the organization in the same offseason that Harris did and has blossomed into a do-it-all defender after his initial selection in the draft's seventh and final round. Curl is in line for a major pay raise should the team opt to negotiate one in the coming months.

Even established veterans, such as Kendall Fuller and Bobby McCain, have seemed to vibe quite well with Harris. That pair won't compete for Pro Bowls but it has seen a ton of action and been effective for the Commanders.



but overall, Harris' collection of guys finished second in passing yards allowed in 2020, 29th in 2021 (OK, that was a very poor effort) and fourth in 2022.



Harris' voice was often the loudest at Washington's training camp practices — he had more energy than a puppy at the dog park whose water bowl was accidentally filled with espresso. It's almost inevitable that the summer will be quieter without him. Hopefully the secondary's output won't trend the same way.


https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/commanders/dont-underestimate-commanders-loss-defensive-backs-coach


In his first year there, the Chargers not only led the NFL with 18 interceptions, but cornerback Casey Hayward also led the league with seven picks en route to making his first Pro Bowl. The team recorded 18 interceptions again the next season, which was fourth-most in the NFL, and Hayward made his second straight Pro Bowl appearance.

In 2018, Harris coached a pair of first-team All-Pros in Desmond King II and Derwin James. King, a fifth-round pick in 2017, recorded three interceptions and a pick-six, while James -- a first-round pick in 2018 -- became the first rookie in Chargers franchise history to record 100 or more tackles.



Harris is a 40-year-old ascending coach that played eight seasons (2005-12) in the league. The Commanders allowed the league's fourth-fewest passing yards (3,252) this season. They allowed a stingy 191.3 passing yards per contest. Harris would be a terrific addition for Tennessee's coaching staff.


Was a serious contender for DC positions in Indy and Philadelphia the last few years.

Harris would most likely keep a 4-3 defense

As the team is currently constructed, the Eagles should remain a 4-3 defense. The Eagles already have the pass rushers needed to stay in a 4-3. If the Eagles were looking to switch to a 3-4 defense, it would require using more draft picks and spending in free agency, resources that are not available to the Eagles at this time.

It also would help the Eagles in terms of what Harris has learned from Washington Football Team head coach Ron Rivera. Rivera is one of the better defensive minds currently coaching in the game. Washington's defensive line is one of the team's strengths, just as it is with the Eagles. If Harris takes any concepts with him from Washington, it could work out in the long run.

There you, that's our guy!
i like that Harris info

I actually think he is a better candidate than Kris Richards now
I believe that roster wise, there won't be any significant decline in our team's capability to repeat to reach the conference championship again. I strongly think that we'll win the division again and we'll probably go up against the likes of the Eagles and Cowboys again. Harris, with his knowledge of those two, for me is the ideal hire.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Who do you like, Command?

Some OL coach
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
i like that Harris info

I actually think he is a better candidate than Kris Richards now

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/report-chris-harris-potentially-bears-despite-report-hire

https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2023/01/31/bears-reportedly-have-an-offer-on-the-table-for-db-coach-chris-harris/
[ Edited by ComeOnDeberg on Feb 2, 2023 at 12:58 PM ]
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