Jake Moody-K-Michigan 3rd Round 2023 Draft

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by OhioNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:

This guy completed almost all of his kicks below 49 yards and I think like half 50+ attempts. He hit a 59 yarder in the CFP.

Harbaugh had him attempting some really tough kicks and in rough weather sometimes.

I like this kid a lot and am really glad we nabbed him. Sucks we used a third but I think us fans will appreciate it as time goes on. Especially him hopefully being clutch like he was in college.

Id be curious how often he was in tough situations vs the other kicker last taken in the third. When you're just kicking during games randomly but not relied on like moody was, it may be why the pressure got to him and he hasn't been very good in the nfl.
Harbaugh has probably been terrorizing this kid mentally for years, which should work to our benefit. Hahah

Well with the Patriots taking the Maryland kicker at 112, Shanahan picking Moody at 99 was brilliant.

It's just bad picking a kicker no matter who we beat to it. They are a dime a dozen.

Akers, Dawson and Gould were all undrafted.

Guys like Vinateri, Tucker undrafted.

When all the best kickers are undrafted, it almost automatically makes the pick unjustifiable unless this dude is going to be the best kicker of all time

Or, if you need a kicker and you know that the best one/maybe only one that you think might be worth something is going to get drafted, you may as well draft him.

Sure some of the best kickers were undrafted. But I'm sure if we ran the numbers, the fail rate of undrafted kickers is higher than the success rate. Just as the fail rate of all undrafted players is higher than the success rate. At least in terms of making the 53 man roster and having an actual NFL career of any longevity.

It's kind of like saying, "the best WR and maybe player of all time came from Mississippi Valley State so just camp out there every year and find their best player(s).

The entire draft is a crap shoot, as we know. Kendrick Bourne was a better player than Rashaun Woods. Brock Purdy is better than Jim Druckenmiller was. Matt Brieda was better than Joe Williams.

We needed a kicker and they took a kicker. Generally regarded as one of the best if not the best available. He's worked with Robbie Gould. Kinda impressive looking at his bio his freshman year at Michigan he handles kickoffs and the first game he's asked to actually attempt field goals he sets a Michigan record I believe by drilling six of them. Kid is probably pretty good. No one is going to complain we drafted him in the third round if he's a Pro Bowl or All Pro kicker, or even if he has Robbie Gould type accuracy in the clutch but no official honors.

If kickers were truly a dime a dozen multiple teams wouldn't go into each season wondering if they were good enough there and playoff kickers wouldn't be double doinking chip shots and missing 4 extra points in a game.

And actually, maybe the greatest, or one of the greatest, kickers of all time, in the Hall of Fame, Morten Andersen, was drafted in the fourth round.

Kid deserves a shot to succeed at a position of need. We can give him that shot. Or we can whine and moan on the internet. I know that can be fun sometimes.

Jerry Rice is an anomaly. Just look around the league, plenty of undrafted guys doing well. History shows you don't need to waste a pick for a great kicker. This guy will have to be a top 2 kicker for 15+ years to make this somewhat okay. Even then you can often get that undrafted

There are teams that consistently struggle to find a reliable kicker. If what you say is true, then there wouldn't be a bad kicker in the league, which is of course b******t. And it's not as though it's a position that doesn't have an enormous impact of games. How many times over the years have we seen entire games and seasons placed on a kicker's shoulders? I don't want to be rolling out a dude that doesn't have the goods upstairs to handle that kind of pressure. It'll look like a bargain if Moody because med one of the best in the league.

You can end up with a disaster drafting a kicker too. It's mostly mental. It's just proven that you don't need to draft a kicker. We did and hopefully he's good, but it was not needed. It's a big deal if they are complete f**k ups, but then you just cut them and get another one

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
You can end up with a disaster drafting a kicker too. It's mostly mental. It's just proven that you don't need to draft a kicker. We did and hopefully he's good, but it was not needed. It's a big deal if they are complete f**k ups, but then you just cut them and get another one

We've used 9 third round draft picks since 2017 and only one has worked out (Fred Warner). (Not including this draft).

jury is still out in Grey, David -price, Ambry Thomas. So if he turns into a solid player for us in general, it's a good pick.

i disagree that you can find a great kicker anywhere, I think it's more so that people just usually try to find kickers as UDFA instead of picking them. So there are more gems found through UDFA. Not that all or any kick anywhere is good. I think Worrying about what position is picked with a draft pick, outside of a few exceptions, is a waste of time. All that matters is that the team gets the guys they covet, imo.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

You can end up with a disaster drafting a kicker too. It's mostly mental. It's just proven that you don't need to draft a kicker. We did and hopefully he's good, but it was not needed. It's a big deal if they are complete f**k ups, but then you just cut them and get another one

We've used 9 third round draft picks since 2017 and only one has worked out (Fred Warner). (Not including this draft).

jury is still out in Grey, David -price, Ambry Thomas. So if he turns into a solid player for us in general, it's a good pick.

i disagree that you can find a kicker anywhere, I think it's more so that people just usually try to find kickers as UDFA instead of picking them. I think Worrying about what position is picked with a draft pick, outside of a few exceptions, is a waste of time. All that matters is that the team gets the guys they covet, imo.

I just think drafting a kicker is pointless. Not mad at the pick, but acting like this is brilliant is lol. He can be really good and it's still something we could have had without using a pick. The Ravens have the best kicker ever, but he really doesn't move the needle. They aren't worth draft picks imo

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
You can end up with a disaster drafting a kicker too. It's mostly mental. It's just proven that you don't need to draft a kicker. We did and hopefully he's good, but it was not needed. It's a big deal if they are complete f**k ups, but then you just cut them and get another one

We've used 9 third round draft picks since 2017 and only one has worked out (Fred Warner). (Not including this draft).

jury is still out in Grey, David -price, Ambry Thomas. So if he turns into a solid player for us in general, it's a good pick.

i disagree that you can find a kicker anywhere, I think it's more so that people just usually try to find kickers as UDFA instead of picking them. I think Worrying about what position is picked with a draft pick, outside of a few exceptions, is a waste of time. All that matters is that the team gets the guys they covet, imo.

I just think drafting a kicker is pointless. Not mad at the pick, but acting like this is brilliant is lol. He can be really good and it's still something we could have had without using a pick. The Ravens have the best kicker ever, but he really doesn't move the needle. They aren't worth draft picks imo

I disagree, kickers are usually the difference between winning and losing - especially in the playoffs. Field position etc.

Give Moody #9

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
You can end up with a disaster drafting a kicker too. It's mostly mental. It's just proven that you don't need to draft a kicker. We did and hopefully he's good, but it was not needed. It's a big deal if they are complete f**k ups, but then you just cut them and get another one

We've used 9 third round draft picks since 2017 and only one has worked out (Fred Warner). (Not including this draft).

jury is still out in Grey, David -price, Ambry Thomas. So if he turns into a solid player for us in general, it's a good pick.

i disagree that you can find a kicker anywhere, I think it's more so that people just usually try to find kickers as UDFA instead of picking them. I think Worrying about what position is picked with a draft pick, outside of a few exceptions, is a waste of time. All that matters is that the team gets the guys they covet, imo.

I just think drafting a kicker is pointless. Not mad at the pick, but acting like this is brilliant is lol. He can be really good and it's still something we could have had without using a pick. The Ravens have the best kicker ever, but he really doesn't move the needle. They aren't worth draft picks imo

I disagree, kickers are usually the difference between winning and losing - especially in the playoffs. Field position etc.

This. We have already seen how poor special teams play can doom a playoff caliber team. Cough, Kyle Williams. Why take the risk? The team is ready now

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

You can end up with a disaster drafting a kicker too. It's mostly mental. It's just proven that you don't need to draft a kicker. We did and hopefully he's good, but it was not needed. It's a big deal if they are complete f**k ups, but then you just cut them and get another one

We've used 9 third round draft picks since 2017 and only one has worked out (Fred Warner). (Not including this draft).

jury is still out in Grey, David -price, Ambry Thomas. So if he turns into a solid player for us in general, it's a good pick.

i disagree that you can find a kicker anywhere, I think it's more so that people just usually try to find kickers as UDFA instead of picking them. I think Worrying about what position is picked with a draft pick, outside of a few exceptions, is a waste of time. All that matters is that the team gets the guys they covet, imo.

I just think drafting a kicker is pointless. Not mad at the pick, but acting like this is brilliant is lol. He can be really good and it's still something we could have had without using a pick. The Ravens have the best kicker ever, but he really doesn't move the needle. They aren't worth draft picks imo

I disagree, kickers are usually the difference between winning and losing - especially in the playoffs. Field position etc.

The ravens would suck without Lamar. They have one SB in Tucker's career, and it's because Joe Flacco turned into Joe Montana. What I mean in moving the needle is Tucker will never be what makes them good

They play a role of course, but I'll never consider drafting a kicker smart, especially as early as we did

Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Or, if you need a kicker and you know that the best one/maybe only one that you think might be worth something is going to get drafted, you may as well draft him.

Sure some of the best kickers were undrafted. But I'm sure if we ran the numbers, the fail rate of undrafted kickers is higher than the success rate. Just as the fail rate of all undrafted players is higher than the success rate. At least in terms of making the 53 man roster and having an actual NFL career of any longevity.

It's kind of like saying, "the best WR and maybe player of all time came from Mississippi Valley State so just camp out there every year and find their best player(s).

The entire draft is a crap shoot, as we know. Kendrick Bourne was a better player than Rashaun Woods. Brock Purdy is better than Jim Druckenmiller was. Matt Brieda was better than Joe Williams.

We needed a kicker and they took a kicker. Generally regarded as one of the best if not the best available. He's worked with Robbie Gould. Kinda impressive looking at his bio his freshman year at Michigan he handles kickoffs and the first game he's asked to actually attempt field goals he sets a Michigan record I believe by drilling six of them. Kid is probably pretty good. No one is going to complain we drafted him in the third round if he's a Pro Bowl or All Pro kicker, or even if he has Robbie Gould type accuracy in the clutch but no official honors.

If kickers were truly a dime a dozen multiple teams wouldn't go into each season wondering if they were good enough there and playoff kickers wouldn't be double doinking chip shots and missing 4 extra points in a game.

And actually, maybe the greatest, or one of the greatest, kickers of all time, in the Hall of Fame, Morten Andersen, was drafted in the fourth round.

Kid deserves a shot to succeed at a position of need. We can give him that shot. Or we can whine and moan on the internet. I know that can be fun sometimes.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Jerry Rice is an anomaly. Just look around the league, plenty of undrafted guys doing well. History shows you don't need to waste a pick for a great kicker. This guy will have to be a top 2 kicker for 15+ years to make this somewhat okay. Even then you can often get that undrafted

Or just kick the SB winning FG next Feb for #6?

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
The ravens would suck without Lamar. They have one SB in Tucker's career, and it's because Joe Flacco turned into Joe Montana. What I mean in moving the needle is Tucker will never be what makes them good

They play a role of course, but I'll never consider drafting a kicker smart, especially as early as we did

Well of course a kicker isn't as important as a QB. Lol doesn't change the fact a dependable kicker is essential and helps win games. Especially since it was our only real need.

i think we got the best kicker and it'll help us win games. While saving us $4M a year or so (Robbie Gould salary). Plus maybe we can finally kick touchbacks and not give the opponent a chance to run it back Everytime and risk us injuring our own guys.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

The ravens would suck without Lamar. They have one SB in Tucker's career, and it's because Joe Flacco turned into Joe Montana. What I mean in moving the needle is Tucker will never be what makes them good

They play a role of course, but I'll never consider drafting a kicker smart, especially as early as we did

Well of course a kicker isn't as important as a QB. Lol doesn't change the fact a dependable kicker is essential and helps win games. Especially since it was our only real need.

i think we got the best kicker and it'll help us win games. While saving us $4M a year or so. Plus maybe we can finally kick touchbacks and not give the opponent a chance to run it back Everytime and risk us injuring our own guys.

For sure, odds are in our favor finding that reliable kicker without a 3rd rounder though. It's all good I'm not complaining, just thought it was funny that we are calling this brilliant. Joe in the 3rd was brilliant. Finding Kittle in the 5th can be called brilliant. Calling this brilliant was what I was responding to

love this. Something we've been missing 😭. Sounds like his leg has gradually improved too. Or at least his technique? Lol idk Jack about kicking the ball

"He finished top 5 in NCAA touchbacks in each of his last two seasons, and his 66 touchbacks in 2022 were a substantial improvement from his 43 in 2018. Moody's impressive hang time on kickoffs allows the specialists time to track down the kick returner. A former third baseman and scout team quarterback, Jake Moody's athleticism also provided an edge for the Wolverines in kickoff coverage."

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
The ravens would suck without Lamar. They have one SB in Tucker's career, and it's because Joe Flacco turned into Joe Montana. What I mean in moving the needle is Tucker will never be what makes them good

They play a role of course, but I'll never consider drafting a kicker smart, especially as early as we did

Well of course a kicker isn't as important as a QB. Lol doesn't change the fact a dependable kicker is essential and helps win games. Especially since it was our only real need.

i think we got the best kicker and it'll help us win games. While saving us $4M a year or so. Plus maybe we can finally kick touchbacks and not give the opponent a chance to run it back Everytime and risk us injuring our own guys.

For sure, odds are in our favor finding that reliable kicker without a 3rd rounder though. It's all good I'm not complaining, just thought it was funny that we are calling this brilliant. Joe in the 3rd was brilliant. Finding Kittle in the 5th can be called brilliant. Calling this brilliant was what I was responding to

Yeah, I love the pick, but I wouldn't call it brilliant. I like a lot about the kid and do think we got the best kicker and a really dependable and difference making kicker. I wanted us to draft him and if we didn't use the third round comp pick, we weren't getting him. Plus, hitting on someone is a crap shoot anyways. Might as well go for who you believe is the best at the position and a need.

i don't think you can call any pick brilliant until you know how it works out. Lol that usually takes a few years.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

The ravens would suck without Lamar. They have one SB in Tucker's career, and it's because Joe Flacco turned into Joe Montana. What I mean in moving the needle is Tucker will never be what makes them good

They play a role of course, but I'll never consider drafting a kicker smart, especially as early as we did

Well of course a kicker isn't as important as a QB. Lol doesn't change the fact a dependable kicker is essential and helps win games. Especially since it was our only real need.

i think we got the best kicker and it'll help us win games. While saving us $4M a year or so. Plus maybe we can finally kick touchbacks and not give the opponent a chance to run it back Everytime and risk us injuring our own guys.

For sure, odds are in our favor finding that reliable kicker without a 3rd rounder though. It's all good I'm not complaining, just thought it was funny that we are calling this brilliant. Joe in the 3rd was brilliant. Finding Kittle in the 5th can be called brilliant. Calling this brilliant was what I was responding to

Yeah, I love the pick, but I wouldn't call it brilliant. I like a lot about the kid and do think we got the best kicker and a really dependable and difference making kicker. I wanted us to draft him and if we didn't use the third round comp pick, we weren't getting him. Plus, hitting on someone is a crap shoot anyways. Might as well go for who you believe is the best at the position and a need.

i don't think you can call any pick brilliant until you know how it works out. Lol that usually takes a few years.

Yea he's ours now and I do think he should be good. As long he does his job for us nobody can complain about the pick no matter how much they disagree

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
The ravens would suck without Lamar. They have one SB in Tucker's career, and it's because Joe Flacco turned into Joe Montana. What I mean in moving the needle is Tucker will never be what makes them good

They play a role of course, but I'll never consider drafting a kicker smart, especially as early as we did

Well of course a kicker isn't as important as a QB. Lol doesn't change the fact a dependable kicker is essential and helps win games. Especially since it was our only real need.

i think we got the best kicker and it'll help us win games. While saving us $4M a year or so. Plus maybe we can finally kick touchbacks and not give the opponent a chance to run it back Everytime and risk us injuring our own guys.

For sure, odds are in our favor finding that reliable kicker without a 3rd rounder though. It's all good I'm not complaining, just thought it was funny that we are calling this brilliant. Joe in the 3rd was brilliant. Finding Kittle in the 5th can be called brilliant. Calling this brilliant was what I was responding to

Yeah, I love the pick, but I wouldn't call it brilliant. I like a lot about the kid and do think we got the best kicker and a really dependable and difference making kicker. I wanted us to draft him and if we didn't use the third round comp pick, we weren't getting him. Plus, hitting on someone is a crap shoot anyways. Might as well go for who you believe is the best at the position and a need.

i don't think you can call any pick brilliant until you know how it works out. Lol that usually takes a few years.

Yea he's ours now and I do think he should be good. As long he does his job for us nobody can complain about the pick no matter how much they disagree

He should be! As awesome as Gould has been - we've been lacking the ability to consistently attempt 50+ And touchbacks because of Goulds leg.