Jake Moody-K-Michigan 3rd Round 2023 Draft

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Meh, only reason Hoodie traded up was b/c our FO locked in on a freaking PK in the 3rd round. Like with Wishnowsky, had we waited until the 5th, Hoodie would have taken the better player in the 6th like he did with Jake Bailey.

Hoodie had free reign to trade up too for Moody as well. No chance.

You mean the guy that they ended up cutting?

Hoodie has higher standards. Wishnowsky is pretty average too.

I don't remember the last time Hoodie had a good draft; he's trash at drafting 😂

So justifying taking a punter or kicker early in the draft cause Hoodie did means….

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Meh, only reason Hoodie traded up was b/c our FO locked in on a freaking PK in the 3rd round. Like with Wishnowsky, had we waited until the 5th, Hoodie would have taken the better player in the 6th like he did with Jake Bailey.

Hoodie had free reign to trade up too for Moody as well. No chance.

You mean the guy that they ended up cutting?

Hoodie has higher standards. Wishnowsky is pretty average too.

I don't remember the last time Hoodie had a good draft; he's trash at drafting 😂

If he's trash at drafting, and he wanted to draft Moody..

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Meh, only reason Hoodie traded up was b/c our FO locked in on a freaking PK in the 3rd round. Like with Wishnowsky, had we waited until the 5th, Hoodie would have taken the better player in the 6th like he did with Jake Bailey.

Hoodie had free reign to trade up too for Moody as well. No chance.

You mean the guy that they ended up cutting?

Hoodie has higher standards. Wishnowsky is pretty average too.

I don't remember the last time Hoodie had a good draft; he's trash at drafting 😂

If he's trash at drafting, and he wanted to draft Moody..

Thant honestly made me feel a little better about the pick thl, thanks! Lasted about 27 seconds though

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Meh, only reason Hoodie traded up was b/c our FO locked in on a freaking PK in the 3rd round. Like with Wishnowsky, had we waited until the 5th, Hoodie would have taken the better player in the 6th like he did with Jake Bailey.

Hoodie had free reign to trade up too for Moody as well. No chance.

This is such a weird reading of the situation. The mental gymnastics you have to pull off to put down our FO while avoiding to put down the Patriots is impressive.

Simply follow the P situation. Mitch Wishnowsky was a "generational special teams weapon." Yet nobody else used a high pick on him. Not even Hoodie. Naturally if 2 or 3 players are coveted, the second one goes, the other must follow. No doubt had we waited until the 5th, Hoodie would have followed. But nobody but us prioritizes a P or PK that high.

That's faulty logic. You're basing this on assumptions that neither you or I know to be true. Correlation isn't causation.

it's just ironic to me that you're literally blaming the Niners FO for forcing one of the best coaches in history to pick kickers and punters rounds early. It's a comically bad take from a guy who seemingly justified any move Baalke made.

You're basing an assumption Hoodie would have traded up for him at 100 like Kyle noted. Nope. He didn't before. Why now? For all we know he has his guy rated higher and had to now trade up for him because he was next off the board after we took Moody at 3 and there was at least one other team who needed a P/K.

Not even Baalke would take a PK in the 3rd and a P in the 4th.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Meh, only reason Hoodie traded up was b/c our FO locked in on a freaking PK in the 3rd round. Like with Wishnowsky, had we waited until the 5th, Hoodie would have taken the better player in the 6th like he did with Jake Bailey.

Hoodie had free reign to trade up too for Moody as well. No chance.

This is such a weird reading of the situation. The mental gymnastics you have to pull off to put down our FO while avoiding to put down the Patriots is impressive.

Simply follow the P situation. Mitch Wishnowsky was a "generational special teams weapon." Yet nobody else used a high pick on him. Not even Hoodie. Naturally if 2 or 3 players are coveted, the second one goes, the other must follow. No doubt had we waited until the 5th, Hoodie would have followed. But nobody but us prioritizes a P or PK that high.

That's faulty logic. You're basing this on assumptions that neither you or I know to be true. Correlation isn't causation.

it's just ironic to me that you're literally blaming the Niners FO for forcing one of the best coaches in history to pick kickers and punters rounds early. It's a comically bad take from a guy who seemingly justified any move Baalke made.

You're basing an assumption Hoodie would have traded up for him at 100 like Kyle noted. Nope. He didn't before. Why now? For all we know he has his guy rated higher and had to now trade up for him because he was next off the board after we took Moody at 3 and there was at least one other team who needed a P/K.

Not even Baalke would take a PK in the 3rd and a P in the 4th.

Please point out anywhere I've assumed anything. I'll wait.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Meh, only reason Hoodie traded up was b/c our FO locked in on a freaking PK in the 3rd round. Like with Wishnowsky, had we waited until the 5th, Hoodie would have taken the better player in the 6th like he did with Jake Bailey.

Hoodie had free reign to trade up too for Moody as well. No chance.

You mean the guy that they ended up cutting?

Hoodie has higher standards. Wishnowsky is pretty average too.

I don't remember the last time Hoodie had a good draft; he's trash at drafting 😂

If he's trash at drafting, and he wanted to draft Moody..

Thant honestly made me feel a little better about the pick thl, thanks! Lasted about 27 seconds though

I'm mostly playing...just reminding fans that the justification for Wishnowsky was that he was more then just a P; he was a ST weapon. It turns out he's not. He's just a solid P.

Now we justify taking Moody because he's a generational PK. Let's pump the brakes. Odds are he's just a solid PK.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Meh, only reason Hoodie traded up was b/c our FO locked in on a freaking PK in the 3rd round. Like with Wishnowsky, had we waited until the 5th, Hoodie would have taken the better player in the 6th like he did with Jake Bailey.

Hoodie had free reign to trade up too for Moody as well. No chance.

You mean the guy that they ended up cutting?

Hoodie has higher standards. Wishnowsky is pretty average too.

I don't remember the last time Hoodie had a good draft; he's trash at drafting 😂

If he's trash at drafting, and he wanted to draft Moody..

Thant honestly made me feel a little better about the pick thl, thanks! Lasted about 27 seconds though

I'm mostly playing...just reminding fans that the justification for Wishnowsky was that he was more then just a P; he was a ST weapon. It turns out he's not. He's just a solid P.

Now we justify taking Moody because he's a generational PK. Let's pump the brakes. Odds are he's just a solid PK.

At worst, Moody will add touchbacks and/or good hangtime on kickoffs, something we haven't really had the last 5 years or so.

wish is a major disappointment in my opinion. He had a solid year last year but he only does well when he's punting from good position. When the offense is backed up and he has to punt, he isn't very good, which is when we need him most. I kinda wish we would upgrade from him.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Meh, only reason Hoodie traded up was b/c our FO locked in on a freaking PK in the 3rd round. Like with Wishnowsky, had we waited until the 5th, Hoodie would have taken the better player in the 6th like he did with Jake Bailey.

Hoodie had free reign to trade up too for Moody as well. No chance.

You mean the guy that they ended up cutting?

Hoodie has higher standards. Wishnowsky is pretty average too.

I don't remember the last time Hoodie had a good draft; he's trash at drafting 😂

If he's trash at drafting, and he wanted to draft Moody..

Thant honestly made me feel a little better about the pick thl, thanks! Lasted about 27 seconds though

I'm mostly playing...just reminding fans that the justification for Wishnowsky was that he was more then just a P; he was a ST weapon. It turns out he's not. He's just a solid P.

Now we justify taking Moody because he's a generational PK. Let's pump the brakes. Odds are he's just a solid PK.

At worst, Moody will add touchbacks and/or good hangtime on kickoffs, something we haven't really had the last 5 years or so.

wish is a major disappointment in my opinion. He had a solid year last year but he only does well when he's punting from good position. When the offense is backed up and he has to punt, he isn't very good, which is when we need him most. I kinda wish we would upgrade from him.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Meh, only reason Hoodie traded up was b/c our FO locked in on a freaking PK in the 3rd round. Like with Wishnowsky, had we waited until the 5th, Hoodie would have taken the better player in the 6th like he did with Jake Bailey.

Hoodie had free reign to trade up too for Moody as well. No chance.

This is such a weird reading of the situation. The mental gymnastics you have to pull off to put down our FO while avoiding to put down the Patriots is impressive.

Simply follow the P situation. Mitch Wishnowsky was a "generational special teams weapon." Yet nobody else used a high pick on him. Not even Hoodie. Naturally if 2 or 3 players are coveted, the second one goes, the other must follow. No doubt had we waited until the 5th, Hoodie would have followed. But nobody but us prioritizes a P or PK that high.

That's faulty logic. You're basing this on assumptions that neither you or I know to be true. Correlation isn't causation.

it's just ironic to me that you're literally blaming the Niners FO for forcing one of the best coaches in history to pick kickers and punters rounds early. It's a comically bad take from a guy who seemingly justified any move Baalke made.

You're basing an assumption Hoodie would have traded up for him at 100 like Kyle noted. Nope. He didn't before. Why now? For all we know he has his guy rated higher and had to now trade up for him because he was next off the board after we took Moody at 3 and there was at least one other team who needed a P/K.

Not even Baalke would take a PK in the 3rd and a P in the 4th.

Please point out anywhere I've assumed anything. I'll wait.

You implied it by claiming I'm playing mental gymnastics. It's not that hard of a concept. If there are a consensus 3 quality QB's, the second the first goes, the next two will follow. No different here. Hoodie needed ST the same years we did. He clearly didn't like Wishnowsky and Moody enough to beat SF to the punch and he got just as much production from waiting like most teams.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Meh, only reason Hoodie traded up was b/c our FO locked in on a freaking PK in the 3rd round. Like with Wishnowsky, had we waited until the 5th, Hoodie would have taken the better player in the 6th like he did with Jake Bailey.

Hoodie had free reign to trade up too for Moody as well. No chance.

This is such a weird reading of the situation. The mental gymnastics you have to pull off to put down our FO while avoiding to put down the Patriots is impressive.

Simply follow the P situation. Mitch Wishnowsky was a "generational special teams weapon." Yet nobody else used a high pick on him. Not even Hoodie. Naturally if 2 or 3 players are coveted, the second one goes, the other must follow. No doubt had we waited until the 5th, Hoodie would have followed. But nobody but us prioritizes a P or PK that high.

That's faulty logic. You're basing this on assumptions that neither you or I know to be true. Correlation isn't causation.

it's just ironic to me that you're literally blaming the Niners FO for forcing one of the best coaches in history to pick kickers and punters rounds early. It's a comically bad take from a guy who seemingly justified any move Baalke made.

You're basing an assumption Hoodie would have traded up for him at 100 like Kyle noted. Nope. He didn't before. Why now? For all we know he has his guy rated higher and had to now trade up for him because he was next off the board after we took Moody at 3 and there was at least one other team who needed a P/K.

Not even Baalke would take a PK in the 3rd and a P in the 4th.

Please point out anywhere I've assumed anything. I'll wait.

You implied it by claiming I'm playing mental gymnastics. It's not that hard of a concept. If there are a consensus 3 quality QB's, the second the first goes, the next two will follow. No different here. Hoodie needed ST the same years we did. He clearly didn't like Wishnowsky and Moody enough to beat SF to the punch and he got just as much production from waiting like most teams.

Wut? Pointing out your illogical assumption does not equal me arguing in favor of the opposite assumption. You're just full of assumptions.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Meh, only reason Hoodie traded up was b/c our FO locked in on a freaking PK in the 3rd round. Like with Wishnowsky, had we waited until the 5th, Hoodie would have taken the better player in the 6th like he did with Jake Bailey.

Hoodie had free reign to trade up too for Moody as well. No chance.

This is such a weird reading of the situation. The mental gymnastics you have to pull off to put down our FO while avoiding to put down the Patriots is impressive.

Simply follow the P situation. Mitch Wishnowsky was a "generational special teams weapon." Yet nobody else used a high pick on him. Not even Hoodie. Naturally if 2 or 3 players are coveted, the second one goes, the other must follow. No doubt had we waited until the 5th, Hoodie would have followed. But nobody but us prioritizes a P or PK that high.

That's faulty logic. You're basing this on assumptions that neither you or I know to be true. Correlation isn't causation.

it's just ironic to me that you're literally blaming the Niners FO for forcing one of the best coaches in history to pick kickers and punters rounds early. It's a comically bad take from a guy who seemingly justified any move Baalke made.

You're basing an assumption Hoodie would have traded up for him at 100 like Kyle noted. Nope. He didn't before. Why now? For all we know he has his guy rated higher and had to now trade up for him because he was next off the board after we took Moody at 3 and there was at least one other team who needed a P/K.

Not even Baalke would take a PK in the 3rd and a P in the 4th.

Please point out anywhere I've assumed anything. I'll wait.

You implied it by claiming I'm playing mental gymnastics. It's not that hard of a concept. If there are a consensus 3 quality QB's, the second the first goes, the next two will follow. No different here. Hoodie needed ST the same years we did. He clearly didn't like Wishnowsky and Moody enough to beat SF to the punch and he got just as much production from waiting like most teams.

Wut? Pointing out your illogical assumption does not equal me arguing in favor of the opposite assumption. You're just full of assumptions.

Illogical, even after we've already seen the pattern once before? LOL. K.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Meh, only reason Hoodie traded up was b/c our FO locked in on a freaking PK in the 3rd round. Like with Wishnowsky, had we waited until the 5th, Hoodie would have taken the better player in the 6th like he did with Jake Bailey.

Hoodie had free reign to trade up too for Moody as well. No chance.

This is such a weird reading of the situation. The mental gymnastics you have to pull off to put down our FO while avoiding to put down the Patriots is impressive.

Simply follow the P situation. Mitch Wishnowsky was a "generational special teams weapon." Yet nobody else used a high pick on him. Not even Hoodie. Naturally if 2 or 3 players are coveted, the second one goes, the other must follow. No doubt had we waited until the 5th, Hoodie would have followed. But nobody but us prioritizes a P or PK that high.

That's faulty logic. You're basing this on assumptions that neither you or I know to be true. Correlation isn't causation.

it's just ironic to me that you're literally blaming the Niners FO for forcing one of the best coaches in history to pick kickers and punters rounds early. It's a comically bad take from a guy who seemingly justified any move Baalke made.

You're basing an assumption Hoodie would have traded up for him at 100 like Kyle noted. Nope. He didn't before. Why now? For all we know he has his guy rated higher and had to now trade up for him because he was next off the board after we took Moody at 3 and there was at least one other team who needed a P/K.

Not even Baalke would take a PK in the 3rd and a P in the 4th.

Please point out anywhere I've assumed anything. I'll wait.

You implied it by claiming I'm playing mental gymnastics. It's not that hard of a concept. If there are a consensus 3 quality QB's, the second the first goes, the next two will follow. No different here. Hoodie needed ST the same years we did. He clearly didn't like Wishnowsky and Moody enough to beat SF to the punch and he got just as much production from waiting like most teams.

Wut? Pointing out your illogical assumption does not equal me arguing in favor of the opposite assumption. You're just full of assumptions.

Illogical, even after we've already seen the pattern once before? LOL. K.

Illogical meaning the use of a logical fallacy. Correlation doesn't equal causation. You do understand that, right?

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
I was expecting a Kicker to be drafted early, since it's the only real need this team has.
Since 90% of the fans are clueless, of course they'll cry as they usually do.
Good thing their cry and whine is irrelevant.
Great pick as always.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
I was expecting a Kicker to be drafted early, since it's the only real need this team has.
Since 90% of the fans are clueless, of course they'll cry as they usually do.
Good thing their cry and whine is irrelevant.
Great pick as always.

How do you feel about Wishnowsky? I feel like we've been here before.