Jake Moody-K-Michigan 3rd Round 2023 Draft

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
yeah and you can get a QB at pick 262, can make the same comment on TL or any guy seemingly overdrafted

Haha comparing a QB and a kicker to find a gotcha moment…get real faithful.

yeah the comp is you can get a QB at 262 we did it
Brady round 6
Hurts round 2
Warner udfa, why don't we just do that..

point I am making and you know it's true, who cares about a round 3 pick, like Trey Sermon, what value did that have? If Moody is here a long time, this is a great investment. so the round 3 doesn't matter, he just has to be a good kicker to justify the selection.

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Who cares about Fred Warner?

dude Warner wasn't on the board, listen to the interviews, KS laughing like a maniac saying welp we took you and not another RB..

KS wanted another RB, the entire room probably had to talk him down and say eff no Shanny!

you have done enough damage with these 3rd round RBs, let the rest of the draft room handle this pick, we are taking a guy who will give us many years of real value, not be in Philly in 1 season.

Or we just continued our tradition of wasting 3rd round picks by selecting Moody.

not wasted if he doesn't miss kicks

I doubt any of these draft picks will bench our core guys. We can't be weak at QB and some UDFA K off the street going into the season

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
most 3rd don't really work out, getting a Warner type in round 3 is rare.. but really this is 99, which if you do the math in a 32 team league with 31 round one picks, it's like a round 4 pick, which the club mentioned also, I understand the hit rate on round 3-4s so I'm not complaining if it whiffs (ok I am) but you know what I mean, Moody probably has a more likely success rate than other third rounders, less adapting to our team, our playbook, it's just can he kick em straight and true? I think he will be a good one, in which case it's more than worth a compensatory 3rd..

Haha so 3rds don't really work out, but then you toss out some crap about drafting a QB at 262 and Brady?

Over drafting for positional need is a horrible way to draft.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
not wasted if he doesn't miss kicks

I doubt any of these draft picks will bench our core guys. We can't be weak at QB and some UDFA K off the street going into the season

Well the stats actually show that UDFA kickers do better their rookie year than drafted kickers.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
yeah and you can get a QB at pick 262, can make the same comment on TL or any guy seemingly overdrafted

Haha comparing a QB and a kicker to find a gotcha moment…get real faithful.

yeah the comp is you can get a QB at 262 we did it
Brady round 6
Hurts round 2
Warner udfa, why don't we just do that..

point I am making and you know it's true, who cares about a round 3 pick, like Trey Sermon, what value did that have? If Moody is here a long time, this is a great investment. so the round 3 doesn't matter, he just has to be a good kicker to justify the selection.

Who cares about Fred Warner?

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dude Warner wasn't on the board, listen to the interviews, KS laughing like a maniac saying welp we took you and not another RB..

KS wanted another RB, the entire room probably had to talk him down and say eff no Shanny!

you have done enough damage with these 3rd round RBs, let the rest of the draft room handle this pick, we are taking a guy who will give us many years of real value, not be in Philly in 1 season.

Or we just continued our tradition of wasting 3rd round picks by selecting Moody.

most 3rd don't really work out, getting a Warner type in round 3 is rare.. but really this is 99, which if you do the math in a 32 team league with 31 round one picks, it's like a round 4 pick, which the club mentioned also, I understand the hit rate on round 3-4s so I'm not complaining if it whiffs (ok I am) but you know what I mean, Moody probably has a more likely success rate than other third rounders, less adapting to our team, our playbook, it's just can he kick em straight and true? I think he will be a good one, in which case it's more than worth a compensatory 3rd..

63% of 1st round picks are starters. Guess we should just draft a kicker in the first. 2nd round pick is only 27% so should totally take a punter there. 3rd round go long snapper. Can't risk taking players with elite traits and rely on your elite coaching staff to develop players amiright? Not like taking players who are athletic freaks has made up the core of our team.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
It better be slam dunk pick and not another average kickers like how Mitch Wishnowsky is an average punter.

He literally has to come out and be one of the best kickers in the league to justify it….f**king stupid pick with who was still on the board.

I don't want to hear anyone complain about the OL if they support this pick.

moody will get grilled for every missed FG he has due to his draft status. Take a guy late day 3 no one will give a s**t. Chris Dunn who won the award for best kicker in college went undrafted. Signed with LA. Could have done that (or used a 7th).

Since we unloaded McGlinchey I was lost about who I can be overly critical of. So I'm relieved we took Moody for that case.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
not wasted if he doesn't miss kicks

I doubt any of these draft picks will bench our core guys. We can't be weak at QB and some UDFA K off the street going into the season

Well the stats actually show that UDFA kickers do better their rookie year than drafted kickers.

there are other sides to those stats

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
most 3rd don't really work out, getting a Warner type in round 3 is rare.. but really this is 99, which if you do the math in a 32 team league with 31 round one picks, it's like a round 4 pick, which the club mentioned also, I understand the hit rate on round 3-4s so I'm not complaining if it whiffs (ok I am) but you know what I mean, Moody probably has a more likely success rate than other third rounders, less adapting to our team, our playbook, it's just can he kick em straight and true? I think he will be a good one, in which case it's more than worth a compensatory 3rd..

Haha so 3rds don't really work out, but then you toss out some crap about drafting a QB at 262 and Brady?

Over drafting for positional need is a horrible way to draft.

That crap was a reflection of your posting, you were the one saying why draft here when so and so was udfa.. that works at any position, heck we saw Sermon and TDP as round 3s and Mitchell and Mason were the guys

all that matters is can Moody do the job, do you realize the dollar savings Moody from Gould? he just has to kick well, and the pick makes total sense.. just for laughs, insert the name of your non kicker at 99 and we can comp their careers as we move forward, let's hear it NY..

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Only people trying to justify this pick are homer fans. There's been 5 kickers taken in the first 3 rds since 2000.

He legit needs to come out and be one of the best kickers in the NFL to justify the pick. When 95% of the league has kickers that were drafted late day 3 or UDFAs, objectively it's a bad pick simple as that.

Geez Louise, what a load of crap. They got him as a 3rd round compensatory pick at a position that, under normal circumstances, would have been the early 4th round. You might as well argue that ANY player taken in the 4th round has to turn out to be one of the "best players in the NFL" to justify having been picked at that spot. As I pointed out in a previous post, NFL kickers almost always lead their teams in points scored during the season. Every time they step on the field they are in a position to affect the outcome of a game one way or another, which is more than you can say about almost any other 4th rounder you could select. (Okay, cue the list of cherry-picked 4th rounders who have gone to have great careers). They needed a kicker, so they got the kicker they rated as the best in the draft rather than waiting around to pick up their 3rd, 4th or 5th choice as an UDFA. It's posts like these that are the reason some people in here don't have any respect for your opinions and don't take you seriously.

Picking as late as they did in this draft there was almost no chance that they would find a player in any round who would end up making an immediate impact this year, except at kicker. That kid Brown looks like he could have some potential and I am intrigued by some of their other picks. This could end up being a really solid draft for role players and depth and may even offer up another late round surprise or two. I have no complaints.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
yeah and you can get a QB at pick 262, can make the same comment on TL or any guy seemingly overdrafted

Haha comparing a QB and a kicker to find a gotcha moment…get real faithful.

yeah the comp is you can get a QB at 262 we did it
Brady round 6
Hurts round 2
Warner udfa, why don't we just do that..

point I am making and you know it's true, who cares about a round 3 pick, like Trey Sermon, what value did that have? If Moody is here a long time, this is a great investment. so the round 3 doesn't matter, he just has to be a good kicker to justify the selection.

Who cares about Fred Warner?

dude Warner wasn't on the board, listen to the interviews, KS laughing like a maniac saying welp we took you and not another RB..

KS wanted another RB, the entire room probably had to talk him down and say eff no Shanny!

you have done enough damage with these 3rd round RBs, let the rest of the draft room handle this pick, we are taking a guy who will give us many years of real value, not be in Philly in 1 season.

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Or we just continued our tradition of wasting 3rd round picks by selecting Moody.

most 3rd don't really work out, getting a Warner type in round 3 is rare.. but really this is 99, which if you do the math in a 32 team league with 31 round one picks, it's like a round 4 pick, which the club mentioned also, I understand the hit rate on round 3-4s so I'm not complaining if it whiffs (ok I am) but you know what I mean, Moody probably has a more likely success rate than other third rounders, less adapting to our team, our playbook, it's just can he kick em straight and true? I think he will be a good one, in which case it's more than worth a compensatory 3rd..

63% of 1st round picks are starters. Guess we should just draft a kicker in the first. 2nd round pick is only 27% so should totally take a punter there. 3rd round go long snapper. Can't risk taking players with elite traits and rely on your elite coaching staff to develop players amiright? Not like taking players who are athletic freaks has made up the core of our team.

let's not get silly, why draft in 1st? no one is suggesting that.. it's clear to me that they took him precisely when they needed to, either 99 or 101 take your pick. He wasn't gonna be there in round 5. they had the pulse of the draft nailed as to when he was gonna be selected

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
yeah and you can get a QB at pick 262, can make the same comment on TL or any guy seemingly overdrafted

Haha comparing a QB and a kicker to find a gotcha moment…get real faithful.

yeah the comp is you can get a QB at 262 we did it
Brady round 6
Hurts round 2
Warner udfa, why don't we just do that..

point I am making and you know it's true, who cares about a round 3 pick, like Trey Sermon, what value did that have? If Moody is here a long time, this is a great investment. so the round 3 doesn't matter, he just has to be a good kicker to justify the selection.

Who cares about Fred Warner?

dude Warner wasn't on the board, listen to the interviews, KS laughing like a maniac saying welp we took you and not another RB..

KS wanted another RB, the entire room probably had to talk him down and say eff no Shanny!

you have done enough damage with these 3rd round RBs, let the rest of the draft room handle this pick, we are taking a guy who will give us many years of real value, not be in Philly in 1 season.

Or we just continued our tradition of wasting 3rd round picks by selecting Moody.

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most 3rd don't really work out, getting a Warner type in round 3 is rare.. but really this is 99, which if you do the math in a 32 team league with 31 round one picks, it's like a round 4 pick, which the club mentioned also, I understand the hit rate on round 3-4s so I'm not complaining if it whiffs (ok I am) but you know what I mean, Moody probably has a more likely success rate than other third rounders, less adapting to our team, our playbook, it's just can he kick em straight and true? I think he will be a good one, in which case it's more than worth a compensatory 3rd..

63% of 1st round picks are starters. Guess we should just draft a kicker in the first. 2nd round pick is only 27% so should totally take a punter there. 3rd round go long snapper. Can't risk taking players with elite traits and rely on your elite coaching staff to develop players amiright? Not like taking players who are athletic freaks has made up the core of our team.

let's not get silly, why draft in 1st? no one is suggesting that.. it's clear to me that they took him precisely when they needed to, either 99 or 101 take your pick. He wasn't gonna be there in round 5. they had the pulse of the draft nailed as to when he was gonna be selected

If missing on a kicker was the make or break of the draft for us then I look forward to our undefeated season next year as our roster is so incredibly built we can't even look to upgrade elsewhere

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
yeah and you can get a QB at pick 262, can make the same comment on TL or any guy seemingly overdrafted

Haha comparing a QB and a kicker to find a gotcha moment…get real faithful.

yeah the comp is you can get a QB at 262 we did it
Brady round 6
Hurts round 2
Warner udfa, why don't we just do that..

point I am making and you know it's true, who cares about a round 3 pick, like Trey Sermon, what value did that have? If Moody is here a long time, this is a great investment. so the round 3 doesn't matter, he just has to be a good kicker to justify the selection.

Who cares about Fred Warner?

dude Warner wasn't on the board, listen to the interviews, KS laughing like a maniac saying welp we took you and not another RB..

KS wanted another RB, the entire room probably had to talk him down and say eff no Shanny!

you have done enough damage with these 3rd round RBs, let the rest of the draft room handle this pick, we are taking a guy who will give us many years of real value, not be in Philly in 1 season.

Or we just continued our tradition of wasting 3rd round picks by selecting Moody.

most 3rd don't really work out, getting a Warner type in round 3 is rare.. but really this is 99, which if you do the math in a 32 team league with 31 round one picks, it's like a round 4 pick, which the club mentioned also, I understand the hit rate on round 3-4s so I'm not complaining if it whiffs (ok I am) but you know what I mean, Moody probably has a more likely success rate than other third rounders, less adapting to our team, our playbook, it's just can he kick em straight and true? I think he will be a good one, in which case it's more than worth a compensatory 3rd..

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63% of 1st round picks are starters. Guess we should just draft a kicker in the first. 2nd round pick is only 27% so should totally take a punter there. 3rd round go long snapper. Can't risk taking players with elite traits and rely on your elite coaching staff to develop players amiright? Not like taking players who are athletic freaks has made up the core of our team.

let's not get silly, why draft in 1st? no one is suggesting that.. it's clear to me that they took him precisely when they needed to, either 99 or 101 take your pick. He wasn't gonna be there in round 5. they had the pulse of the draft nailed as to when he was gonna be selected

If missing on a kicker was the make or break of the draft for us then I look forward to our undefeated season next year as our roster is so incredibly built we can't even look to upgrade elsewhere

dude we upgraded elsewhere with every other single draft pick and udfa

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
yeah and you can get a QB at pick 262, can make the same comment on TL or any guy seemingly overdrafted

Haha comparing a QB and a kicker to find a gotcha moment…get real faithful.

yeah the comp is you can get a QB at 262 we did it
Brady round 6
Hurts round 2
Warner udfa, why don't we just do that..

point I am making and you know it's true, who cares about a round 3 pick, like Trey Sermon, what value did that have? If Moody is here a long time, this is a great investment. so the round 3 doesn't matter, he just has to be a good kicker to justify the selection.

Who cares about Fred Warner?

dude Warner wasn't on the board, listen to the interviews, KS laughing like a maniac saying welp we took you and not another RB..

KS wanted another RB, the entire room probably had to talk him down and say eff no Shanny!

you have done enough damage with these 3rd round RBs, let the rest of the draft room handle this pick, we are taking a guy who will give us many years of real value, not be in Philly in 1 season.

Or we just continued our tradition of wasting 3rd round picks by selecting Moody.

most 3rd don't really work out, getting a Warner type in round 3 is rare.. but really this is 99, which if you do the math in a 32 team league with 31 round one picks, it's like a round 4 pick, which the club mentioned also, I understand the hit rate on round 3-4s so I'm not complaining if it whiffs (ok I am) but you know what I mean, Moody probably has a more likely success rate than other third rounders, less adapting to our team, our playbook, it's just can he kick em straight and true? I think he will be a good one, in which case it's more than worth a compensatory 3rd..

63% of 1st round picks are starters. Guess we should just draft a kicker in the first. 2nd round pick is only 27% so should totally take a punter there. 3rd round go long snapper. Can't risk taking players with elite traits and rely on your elite coaching staff to develop players amiright? Not like taking players who are athletic freaks has made up the core of our team.

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let's not get silly, why draft in 1st? no one is suggesting that.. it's clear to me that they took him precisely when they needed to, either 99 or 101 take your pick. He wasn't gonna be there in round 5. they had the pulse of the draft nailed as to when he was gonna be selected

If missing on a kicker was the make or break of the draft for us then I look forward to our undefeated season next year as our roster is so incredibly built we can't even look to upgrade elsewhere

dude we upgraded elsewhere with every other single draft pick and udfa

Yeah but I mean those picks rarely work out. Your words not mine.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
That crap was a reflection of your posting, you were the one saying why draft here when so and so was udfa.. that works at any position, heck we saw Sermon and TDP as round 3s and Mitchell and Mason were the guys

all that matters is can Moody do the job, do you realize the dollar savings Moody from Gould? he just has to kick well, and the pick makes total sense.. just for laughs, insert the name of your non kicker at 99 and we can comp their careers as we move forward, let's hear it NY..

So. Instead of having a normal discussion about it, you decide to attack me and how I post to diminish anything I said about a kicker…based off what I said about a f**king QB lol?

also you're saying we drafted RBs higher that failed & we have RBs taken way later that have had success….SO let's take a kicker higher? You literally proved my point 😝

All I hear about is we're a SB or bust team blah blah blah. Can't develop a QB no way…BUT let's take a rookie kicker and pray he doesn't suck. We can totally afforded to go through the ups and downs of a rookie kicker for sure!

I gave a list of about 12 or so players that were still on the board. If SF has Moody as their 99th best player in this draft…that's a problem.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
yeah and you can get a QB at pick 262, can make the same comment on TL or any guy seemingly overdrafted

Haha comparing a QB and a kicker to find a gotcha moment…get real faithful.

yeah the comp is you can get a QB at 262 we did it
Brady round 6
Hurts round 2
Warner udfa, why don't we just do that..

point I am making and you know it's true, who cares about a round 3 pick, like Trey Sermon, what value did that have? If Moody is here a long time, this is a great investment. so the round 3 doesn't matter, he just has to be a good kicker to justify the selection.

Who cares about Fred Warner?

dude Warner wasn't on the board, listen to the interviews, KS laughing like a maniac saying welp we took you and not another RB..

KS wanted another RB, the entire room probably had to talk him down and say eff no Shanny!

you have done enough damage with these 3rd round RBs, let the rest of the draft room handle this pick, we are taking a guy who will give us many years of real value, not be in Philly in 1 season.

Or we just continued our tradition of wasting 3rd round picks by selecting Moody.

most 3rd don't really work out, getting a Warner type in round 3 is rare.. but really this is 99, which if you do the math in a 32 team league with 31 round one picks, it's like a round 4 pick, which the club mentioned also, I understand the hit rate on round 3-4s so I'm not complaining if it whiffs (ok I am) but you know what I mean, Moody probably has a more likely success rate than other third rounders, less adapting to our team, our playbook, it's just can he kick em straight and true? I think he will be a good one, in which case it's more than worth a compensatory 3rd..

63% of 1st round picks are starters. Guess we should just draft a kicker in the first. 2nd round pick is only 27% so should totally take a punter there. 3rd round go long snapper. Can't risk taking players with elite traits and rely on your elite coaching staff to develop players amiright? Not like taking players who are athletic freaks has made up the core of our team.

let's not get silly, why draft in 1st? no one is suggesting that.. it's clear to me that they took him precisely when they needed to, either 99 or 101 take your pick. He wasn't gonna be there in round 5. they had the pulse of the draft nailed as to when he was gonna be selected

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If missing on a kicker was the make or break of the draft for us then I look forward to our undefeated season next year as our roster is so incredibly built we can't even look to upgrade elsewhere

dude we upgraded elsewhere with every other single draft pick and udfa

Yeah but I mean those picks rarely work out. Your words not mine.

most draft picks don't, just the reality, the hope is to find some pieces who are a part of the champ team you are building
did you not see Robbie hitting gw field goals in the playoffs??
dude is in his 40s, we need a new guy.. it makes sense to me what we did I have zero complaints, hoping to bridge from one great kicker to another