Originally posted by NYniner85:
moody isn't even some generational kicker lol. I think a good base is to see if Dunn (UDFA) or Moody (3rd) turn out better…people trying to force me to put one name in place of him for argument sake is being dumb. I would have taken a dozen other players over him. it's the 3rd, not the 1st. I never had one guy I needed to have…just don't take a K that early.
IMO it was an arrogant as s**t pick. Acting like we had zero holes or couldn't develop anyone that could start. This team does this stuff every draft. Draft need over BPA. It's not gonna kill us, it's just a horrible way to draft imo.
like others said, if any NFCW team did this they'd be laughing at it. Not a single person in here said "yes please draft a K at 99, seems like a smart value pick"
Teams are scoring more TDs and going for it more on 4th downs. We're trying to kick FGs 
Is what it is now, he's gonna have to be generational to justify the pick.…all I've been told is it's SB or bust. No room for development. Now we're gonna roll into the season with a rookie kicker lol.
Imo people trying to argue that it was a good pick are being pretty arrogant about it as well.
You see, this is where your "argument" becomes ridiculous. Why does he have to become a "generational talent" to justify the pick? You might as well make that argument about any player drafted in what was essentially the 4th round. If he ends up holding down that position for the next ten years with solid play, which I will define as making an acceptable percentage of his field goals and extra points, say 80 and 90% plus respectively, how is that not more valuable to the team than a player who might end up being a rotational piece or be out of the league after a few years, which I expect is the fate of most 4th round picks?
You also keep posting lists of where some of the top kickers have been picked which, quite frankly, is a chicken or the egg argument. A lot of great kickers come into the game in late rounds or as UDFA's because that's traditionally where they have been drafted. If you knew a kicker was going to be one of the top-rated kickers in history (and no, I'm not arguing that Moody will become one) don't you suppose that he would be worth a 4th round pick or a 3rd? The problem is, like with any position in any round, you never know who is going to end up being a player in this league so you pay your money and you take your chances.
They needed a kicker so they drafted a kicker who, by most accounts, was the top-rated player at his position in this class. The argument that a player at a position of need, who traditionally leads their team in scoring every year and can have an immediate impact on whether the team wins or loses games is less valuable than some developmental player who may or may not even make it out of training camp or ends up on the practice squad is, to be honest, completely laughable. Especially in a year that most "experts" agreed was pretty thin on top level talent but had some decent depth and in which the team didn't even have a pick until what was, in effect, the 4th round. Quite frankly, I think all this noise about the "value" of the pick is just a bunch of bedwetting and bellyaching.
I literally said your first instinct was right. Just like it's highly likely it's spot on again.