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Jake Moody-K-Michigan 3rd Round 2023 Draft

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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Statistically speaking, Moody needs to hit better than 80% to match Robbie's production the past few years. 85% or better would be great.

As far as him versus a guy like Dunn. I didn't like Dunn. While accurate, the majority of his kicks came out with a low trajectory. His leg is not as strong and his distance would be sacrificed in the NFL if he starting putting more lift on the ball. Moody was verifiably better.

I used 80% as a rough number. His accuracy may be a little lower than Robbie's because he may be asked to try some longer kicks. That's going to reduce the accuracxy a little.
The average accuracy over the last 10 seasons has been 84.4% so anything above that would be considered good. The range is fairly narrow.

For sure and I think that's something we need to give a little consideration to, that he'll be asked to make more long kicks than Robbie was, potentially.

I'd like to see him not even have to try a FG. Let's just score TDs and then he just needs to kick extra points.

As would I, but even PATs matter, ask Cowboy fans (not that I care ). There will be times that at the end of the half, you just want to try put points on the board and no time to run another play.
[ Edited by WildBill on May 7, 2023 at 2:43 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
I mean, if you like being the bridesmaid, that's cool. I'm still trying to win #6 over here.

Just a couple more offseason signings and I think you'll be at the doorsteps, hoss.
[ Edited by random49er on May 7, 2023 at 4:39 PM ]
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Would have liked to have kept Robbie and work this guy into the roster over the next year or two. Let him get comfortable with the kickoffs and maybe even give him PATs but let Robbie handle the crucial stuff for now.

would hate to see our season / SB run end on a missed game winning FG bc we put a rookie kicker in a tough spot on the ultimate stage….
Originally posted by DrEll:
Would have liked to have kept Robbie and work this guy into the roster over the next year or two. Let him get comfortable with the kickoffs and maybe even give him PATs but let Robbie handle the crucial stuff for now.

would hate to see our season / SB run end on a missed game winning FG bc we put a rookie kicker in a tough spot on the ultimate stage….

He didn't want to come back.
Originally posted by DrEll:
Would have liked to have kept Robbie and work this guy into the roster over the next year or two. Let him get comfortable with the kickoffs and maybe even give him PATs but let Robbie handle the crucial stuff for now.

would hate to see our season / SB run end on a missed game winning FG bc we put a rookie kicker in a tough spot on the ultimate stage….

How do you put 2 place kickers on your 53 man roster?
Originally posted by NCommand:
You don't have any opinions expect on what others have. That's weak sauce. Think independently! Have an original take. Put yourself out there.

Says the guy who has Dave Lombardi make up his mind for him.

Don't like the Moody pick but 9ers FO gets benefit of doubt overall because of their track record. Sorry if it's not controversial enough.
Originally posted by random49er:
Just a couple more offseason signings and I think you'll be at the doorsteps, hoss.

Just needs more case studies.
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Would have liked to have kept Robbie and work this guy into the roster over the next year or two. Let him get comfortable with the kickoffs and maybe even give him PATs but let Robbie handle the crucial stuff for now.

would hate to see our season / SB run end on a missed game winning FG bc we put a rookie kicker in a tough spot on the ultimate stage….

How do you put 2 place kickers on your 53 man roster?

Yeah, horrible idea. Lol we would have to use a spot on him cause someone would sign him off the practice squad, for sure. Lol plus we would be spending like $6M on just kickers if we resigned Robbie and paid Moody.

I don't think some realize that spending $4-$5M on a kicker (what Robbie wants) would be really rough on our salary cap. We could make it work but would leave us with very little cap room. Robbie is awesome on kicks 40 and under, but he sucks at kickoffs and is questionable for any long kick. He's lost a lot of power as he's aged. Moodys specialty is 40 and under too (at least in college). We will save approx $15M-$16M over the next four years by drafting a kicker and not resigning gould, and should be adding better special teams play as a whole. It'll be tough to replace gould reliability but it's possible.

the main reason they wanted Moody, outside of his talent, is his mental fortitude and ability to play under tremendous stress and expectations. He just did that under harbaugh and came through literally Everytime he was needed to win a game or tie it. He's about as ready as a kicker can be to play in this league. We just have to see how he does now but you can't keep two kickers while one grooms another. Lol that would be a massive waste of resources
[ Edited by tankle104 on May 7, 2023 at 11:28 PM ]
Originally posted by KiwiM3:
If we picked Fisher with pick 99 and Moody as an UDFA no one would care.

Swap them around and people freak out.

It's the same two players.

Fact and great point, end of the day if you hit it doesn't matter where you were picked. Swap Trey & Brock around and people would be much happier.
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Would have liked to have kept Robbie and work this guy into the roster over the next year or two. Let him get comfortable with the kickoffs and maybe even give him PATs but let Robbie handle the crucial stuff for now.

would hate to see our season / SB run end on a missed game winning FG bc we put a rookie kicker in a tough spot on the ultimate stage….

How do you put 2 place kickers on your 53 man roster?


Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
You should never condescend to anyone about towing the company line or being wrong on anything related to football

You can't be wrong if you never put yourself out there. Too bad. I just proved you could be right in the rare case you have an independent thought. If only 9ers4eva could have an opinion/plan on the neglect on the secondary, we'd actually have something to talk about.

Sorry,I try to not to take myself too seriously and be a know it all. I try to be measured with my opinions and that's that.

You don't have any opinions expect on what others have. That's weak sauce. Think independently! Have an original take. Put yourself out there.

I don't have opinions huh? Listen this is your problem. You concoct these theories that you've convinced yourself are fact and present them as such. Then when folks challenge you or don't agree with it you get super pissy and condescending and start throwing out homer, towing the company line, etc. it gets old . Gotta check that ego sometimes

Show me one opinion. It's not a big deal. I just find it funny that's all you and 9ers4eva do is criticize other's opinions while having none of your own independently. Seems kind of weird. But to each his own.

Keep b******tting NC. But we all know that's what you do best 🤣

Got it. You weren't a fan of the value of either the P and PK picks. Me too. Weird concept.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
You don't have any opinions except on what others have. That's weak sauce. Think independently! Have an original take. Put yourself out there.

Says the guy who has Dave Lombardi make up his mind for him.

Don't like the Moody pick but 9ers FO gets benefit of doubt overall because of their track record. Sorry if it's not controversial enough.

Haha, DL's been way behind my OL takes but he put the work in and got it.

Why? Have you seen our 3rd round track record? Do you think they got the right value for Wishnowsky in the end last time we did this? Giving them the benefit of the doubt IS towing the company line. That's my point.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Would have liked to have kept Robbie and work this guy into the roster over the next year or two. Let him get comfortable with the kickoffs and maybe even give him PATs but let Robbie handle the crucial stuff for now.

would hate to see our season / SB run end on a missed game winning FG bc we put a rookie kicker in a tough spot on the ultimate stage….

How do you put 2 place kickers on your 53 man roster?


Haha. You need 3 specialists. One for field goals. One to punt. And one to do kickoffs.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha, DL's been way behind my OL takes but he put the work in and got it.

Why? Have you seen our 3rd round track record? Do you think they got the right value for Wishnowsky in the end last time we did this? Giving them the benefit of the doubt IS towing the company line. That's my point.

Then it's a terrible point. Bill Walsh did dumb things too.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha, DL's been way behind my OL takes but he put the work in and got it.

Why? Have you seen our 3rd round track record? Do you think they got the right value for Wishnowsky in the end last time we did this? Giving them the benefit of the doubt IS towing the company line. That's my point.

Then it's a terrible point. Bill Walsh did dumb things too.

Haha. True. He actually wasn't the best at being a GM.
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