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Jake Moody-K-Michigan 3rd Round 2023 Draft

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Originally posted by Sickaa:
The expectations are gonna be through the roof for a kicker being drafted so high. I hope he's mentally prepared for the challenge.

Why? He was drafted in what was essentially the 4th round. Why should the expectations be any different for him than any other player drafted in the 4th round? If some team decided to take a flyer on a small school guard prospect should we anticipate that the expectations for him will be "through the roof" well. Or maybe someone selected an undersized corner with good ball skills. Should the expectations be through the roof for him?

I really don't get all the drama around this pick. People talk about it as though the 4th round was some kind of jackpot lottery round where everyone who was drafted is going to go on a be a star and taking the consensus best player at his position instead of someone who could very well be out of the league by the end of pre-season is somehow this huge misallocation of resources. It really is all pretty silly.
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
I mean it's by far the most controversial. How often in the last two decades has a kicker been drafted in the third round or higher…… if he isn't a damn good kicker then the 49ers deserve all the rightful criticism that comes with doing that. That's just the truth of it

I mean #99 is really the top of the 4th. A kicker's been taken in the 1st round even,...it all depends on how much of a weapon you feel you really have for years to come. The extra FA signing that he might allow on a yearly basis could be tremendous the next 4 years. We'll see.

Oh here we go with that crap again. No, it's really called a third round pick and he was drafted on day two, not day three when the 4th round begins. And no, it doesn't matter how much of weapon they "feel" they have, he has to be an actual weapon in order to justify using that high of a pick on him IMO. There's a reason kickers are never drafted that high or at all in the history of the league, and that reason is because the best kicker in the history of the league (Tucker) and many MANY others wasn't drafted. Proof is in the pudding, you know it, I know it and everyone knows it. You're right, we will see, that's all we can do. If he turns out to be a GREAT kicker, then the pick is justified. If he's average-good, then that's a stupid pick cause you can get that after the draft. He'll be compared to the Rams kid who was undrafted at the least and he better be much better.
ppl got them Moody blues
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
The expectations are gonna be through the roof for a kicker being drafted so high. I hope he's mentally prepared for the challenge.

Why? He was drafted in what was essentially the 4th round. Why should the expectations be any different for him than any other player drafted in the 4th round? If some team decided to take a flyer on a small school guard prospect should we anticipate that the expectations for him will be "through the roof" well. Or maybe someone selected an undersized corner with good ball skills. Should the expectations be through the roof for him?

I really don't get all the drama around this pick. People talk about it as though the 4th round was some kind of jackpot lottery round where everyone who was drafted is going to go on a be a star and taking the consensus best player at his position instead of someone who could very well be out of the league by the end of pre-season is somehow this huge misallocation of resources. It really is all pretty silly.

Being the first kicker taken In the 2023 draft Is more than enough for him to have high expectations.

Don't you think a Rb who's drafted In round 2 would have more expectations than a RB who was drafted later on?

Besides, 3rd/4th rd Is early for a Kickers being drafted.

I'll be rooting for him either way
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
ppl got them Moody blues

They have to feel Purdy good about it.
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Hell yeah baby, gonna be Niners all time kicker.
Have him locked up for four years At the price of which gould would cost us $4-$5M a year. Love it!

Now he need to make his kicks like Robbie did. Lol
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
ppl got them Moody blues

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
ppl got them Moody blues


Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
I mean it's by far the most controversial. How often in the last two decades has a kicker been drafted in the third round or higher…… if he isn't a damn good kicker then the 49ers deserve all the rightful criticism that comes with doing that. That's just the truth of it

I mean #99 is really the top of the 4th. A kicker's been taken in the 1st round even,...it all depends on how much of a weapon you feel you really have for years to come. The extra FA signing that he might allow on a yearly basis could be tremendous the next 4 years. We'll see.

Oh here we go with that crap again. No, it's really called a third round pick and he was drafted on day two, not day three when the 4th round begins.

It's pick #99....the round doesn't matter,...the slotting does.

Traditionally w/32 teams or less....the 99th pick is an early 4th round pick.

Sorry for you if you really have convinced yourself that calling the #99 overall pick a "3rd rounder" puts some extra sauce on things,...but a "round" doesn't really say much.

If anything,...it gives a little assistance to people that aren't too great with numbers.
[ Edited by random49er on May 10, 2023 at 7:45 PM ]
Being a decent nfl kicker ir punter is the best job in the world, make great money and barely do anything lol
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
The biggest difference between Moody and other kickers is the mental fortitude. If he can keep that in the NFL, he'll have a nice career. Mechanics wise, he's obviously very good, as was discussed earlier when I went through all his misses.

This also says a lot about him here:

One of Moody's workouts was conducted by 49ers special teams coordinator Brian Schneider, who ended the session by having Moody, holder Brad Robbins and the long snapper run onto the field for a simulated last-second, long-distance field goal. The snag was that there was no true long snapper, just a young tight end who had never long snapped before.

And it showed.

"It could have been the worst snap ever – laces right at him, 55 yards and he just booted it through like it was nothing," Peters said Moody. "That's what Brian was fired up about. Moody could have sat there and made a bunch of excuses, but he just went up there and kicked it."

😍😍💦. Love it. Eff it. I'll spend a third rounder on a stud kicker. As long as the pick works out, idc what round they're in. lol especially since most picks in a draft don't work out
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
The expectations are gonna be through the roof for a kicker being drafted so high. I hope he's mentally prepared for the challenge.

Why? He was drafted in what was essentially the 4th round. Why should the expectations be any different for him than any other player drafted in the 4th round? If some team decided to take a flyer on a small school guard prospect should we anticipate that the expectations for him will be "through the roof" well. Or maybe someone selected an undersized corner with good ball skills. Should the expectations be through the roof for him?

I really don't get all the drama around this pick. People talk about it as though the 4th round was some kind of jackpot lottery round where everyone who was drafted is going to go on a be a star and taking the consensus best player at his position instead of someone who could very well be out of the league by the end of pre-season is somehow this huge misallocation of resources. It really is all pretty silly.

Being the first kicker taken In the 2023 draft Is more than enough for him to have high expectations.

Don't you think a Rb who's drafted In round 2 would have more expectations than a RB who was drafted later on?

Besides, 3rd/4th rd Is early for a Kickers being drafted.

I'll be rooting for him either way

Whose expectations are we talking about? The team's, the league's, the fans? The team showed what they thought Moody's value to them was by picking him where they did, the league probably doesn't care, it just means there is another 2nd string guard available for someone else to pick up. Seems to me that it's mostly the fans who are complaining.

There were two years where the Niner's drafted a running back in the third round and they picked up another one as an UDFA or as a 6th round pick, I think. Williams and Breida and then Sermon and Mitchell. In each year they ended up getting a running back that became an important contributor to their offense, just not in the round they might have anticipated. But they ended up getting a running back which was what they wanted.

I think there is a lot of draft snobbery that fuels some of these arguments, guys who are more invested in the "process" of the draft and how much "value" should be assigned to each pick and position and less interested in what the actual outcome of the draft is as far as improving the team goes.

If Moody comes in and does his job the way they anticipate him to, then it will mean, at the very least, that they've added a player who, simply by the nature of his position, will lead the team in scoring. He will also have the ability to impact the outcome of the game, for good or ill, every time he steps out on the field, which is more than you can say for most 4th round picks.

In a draft that seemed, pretty much by consensus, to be short of blue-ribbon talent but long on players that could add depth to your roster. and in a year in which the team also had most of its starters set they would have had to believe that any other player available at that pick would end up being better than whoever it was they already had on the roster. Was there and edge rusher there who they thought was going to be better than Drake Jackson? Or a tackle that they thought was going to be better than McKivitz? Or a DB to take over for Jimmy Ward? I don't pretend to know but I imagine that the FO has a pretty well-informed opinion about that.

They ended up addressing all of those positions in the draft safety, CB, LB, tackle, defensive line and DE. They seem to like the guys they picked so they would also have to believe that there wasn't anybody on their board who represented better value at those positions than Moody represented at his. Who knows, maybe there was another player they really liked at a different position but somebody else had already drafted him. With all of the success they've had at identifying late round gems there is a good chance that at least a couple of the other guys they picked up after Moody could end up making a contribution as well. Seems to me that's how a draft should be judged, players who end up contributing and players who don't. Outside of the first two rounds perhaps it doesn't matter to me at all where they get drafted.

Now to be clear, I'm like everyone else, I hope Moddy turns out to be a really good kicker for them for a long time. If he doesn't, I don't see how that is any different than any other 4th rounder not working out. It simply isn't that big of a deal. Just another roll of the dice in the annual crapshoot that is the NFL draft.
Originally posted by tankle104:
😍😍💦. Love it. Eff it. I'll spend a third rounder on a stud kicker. As long as the pick works out, idc what round they're in. lol especially since most picks in a draft don't work out

This is the way, if you hit it doesn't matter where you were "supposed" to be drafted
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Being a decent nfl kicker ir punter is the best job in the world, make great money and barely do anything lol

Ha. Alot of work truly does go into always being ready for the big stage whenever your # is suddenly called.
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