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Jake Moody-K-Michigan 3rd Round 2023 Draft

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Originally posted by btthepunk:
Like he has a real answer for that

There is a real answer, or at least I can see logic involved here that is sound

1. kickers are generally replaceable
2. teams generally don't carry two kickers on their roster
3. because of part 1, kickers who arent paid big money can and are cut often when/if they struggle
4. generally third round picks who arent kickers are not cut when/if they struggle
5. jake moody is a kicker who was drafted in the third round
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by NC49er:
I'm not. He will be another year older, can't kick touchbacks, can't rely on him 49-60+, wants too much money.

49ers used the Belichick formula on him, let him go a year before they nose dive.

Gould was 3/3 on FGs over 50 this season, including 1/1 in playoffs
He was 5/6 last season, including 2/2 in playoffs

Jake moody is career 4 out of 10 on FGs over 50

What am I missing and where does the logical conclusion that one cannot rely on Gould 49+ comes from ?

But Gould is a nonfactor for us. He doesn't want to play here any more. Comparisons with him are not relevant. He may not even have a roster spot this year, anywhere.
Originally posted by English:
But Gould is a nonfactor for us. He doesn't want to play here any more. Comparisons with him are not relevant. He may not even have a roster spot this year, anywhere.

I don't get why you're moving the goalposts.

The guy said Gould can't be relied for 49+ fgs. I wanted to see evidence for his claim.

Or is it because Gould is a nonfactor anymore we can say whatever we feel like about him?
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by English:
But Gould is a nonfactor for us. He doesn't want to play here any more. Comparisons with him are not relevant. He may not even have a roster spot this year, anywhere.

I don't get why you're moving the goalposts.

The guy said Gould can't be relied for 49+ fgs. I wanted to see evidence for his claim.

Or is it because Gould is a nonfactor anymore we can say whatever we feel like about him?

I think he meant since the Niners knew Gould was gone they made what they believe to be the next best move which was drafting Moody. So why compare him with a guy who will no longer be on the team?
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I think he meant since the Niners knew Gould was gone they made what they believe to be the next best move which was drafting Moody. So why compare him with a guy who will no longer be on the team?

I wasn't the one who started comparing him to Gould in the first place. And comparison to past players is pretty warranted especially if one is arguing they are an upgrade.

The statement was that Gould couldnt be relied for field goals over 50 yards. I wanted to see what evidence there is to support such a claim, since I don't see any such evidence, in fact I see the contrary evidence.
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I think he meant since the Niners knew Gould was gone they made what they believe to be the next best move which was drafting Moody. So why compare him with a guy who will no longer be on the team?

I wasn't the one who started comparing him to Gould in the first place. And comparison to past players is pretty warranted especially if one is arguing they are an upgrade.

The statement was that Gould couldnt be relied for field goals over 50 yards. I wanted to see what evidence there is to support such a claim, since I don't see any such evidence, in fact I see the contrary evidence.

Gould was amazing. But I think he made it clear he wanted certain things in a new deal we couldn't do (amount, years etc). So they agreed to move on.

He is in the twilight years and kickoffs were hurting us for sure. I'm not saying we won't miss him, but I understand the front office thinking and why they ended up with Moody.

Logic says he has a stronger leg given he's like 20 years younger so kickoffs should improve dramatically. Field goals he was pretty good in college, but in the end we shall see.
I don't understand why Wishnowsky can't or wasn't handling kickoffs? How is he younger than Gould with a weak leg? He can't make it in the end zone? Plus I thought he was supposed to be able to tackle and s**t!

Sign Araiza
[ Edited by Howlett49 on May 13, 2023 at 1:53 PM ]
Originally posted by Howlett49:
I don't understand why Wishnowsky can't or wasn't handling kickoffs? How is he younger than Gould with a weak leg? He can't make it in the end zone? Plus I thought he was supposed to be able to tackle and s**t!

Sign Araiza

I always kind of wondered that.
I don't know the answer but I was curious why he wasn't handling kickoffs.

i also love that a kicker forum is always rockin. Hahaha
Originally posted by Howlett49:
I don't understand why Wishnowsky can't or wasn't handling kickoffs? How is he younger than Gould with a weak leg? He can't make it in the end zone? Plus I thought he was supposed to be able to tackle and s**t!

Sign Araiza

He did for awhile but his punting was suffering, as soon as he stopped his punting improved.
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Like he has a real answer for that

There is a real answer, or at least I can see logic involved here that is sound

1. kickers are generally replaceable
2. teams generally don't carry two kickers on their roster
3. because of part 1, kickers who arent paid big money can and are cut often when/if they struggle
4. generally third round picks who arent kickers are not cut when/if they struggle
5. jake moody is a kicker who was drafted ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶r̶d̶ ̶r̶o̶u̶n̶d̶ 99th overall.

Both are true,...just edited for better accuracy. Let's keep the ball centered.
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Like he has a real answer for that

There is a real answer, or at least I can see logic involved here that is sound

1. kickers are generally replaceable
2. teams generally don't carry two kickers on their roster
3. because of part 1, kickers who arent paid big money can and are cut often when/if they struggle
4. generally third round picks who arent kickers are not cut when/if they struggle
5. jake moody is a kicker who was drafted ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶r̶d̶ ̶r̶o̶u̶n̶d̶ 99th overall.

Both are true,...just edited for better accuracy. Let's keep the ball centered.

Random, bro give it a rest. Pick 99th overall….in the third round. Both are true as well
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Like he has a real answer for that

There is a real answer, or at least I can see logic involved here that is sound

1. kickers are generally replaceable
2. teams generally don't carry two kickers on their roster
3. because of part 1, kickers who arent paid big money can and are cut often when/if they struggle
4. generally third round picks who arent kickers are not cut when/if they struggle
5. jake moody is a kicker who was drafted in the third round

Sure it may be sound logic for an undrafted kicker but not a 3rd round pick who may be the most hyped kicker to come out of college since Jankowski. I don't think it's any more likely that he would be cut 4 games into his rookie season than any other player taken late in the 3rd round.

And I'm fairly certain that wasn't the logic he was referring to.
[ Edited by btthepunk on May 13, 2023 at 10:51 PM ]
Moody will be a stud here for 10+ years. He's going to have 3-4 super bowl rings here too.

he'll make this third round pick look as good as Fred Warner does 🤘😏

my fanboy post of the day, or hour. 😈
[ Edited by tankle104 on May 14, 2023 at 12:00 PM ]
Originally posted by tankle104:
Moody will be a stud here for 10+ years. He's going to have 3-4 super bowl rings here too.

he'll make this third round pick look as good as Fred Warner does 🤘😏

my fanboy post of the day, or hour. 😈

LOL. Love it!
If people are going to compare him to Gould, an 18-year veteran of the NFL, then they should at least compare him to Year 1 Gould. He had a FG% of 77.8 that year. That would have made him the 33rd placed kicker overall in last season's ranking. #context
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