Jake Moody-K-Michigan 3rd Round 2023 Draft

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I would argue KS thought he would be great also, or why else did they select him? But again, he wasn't to be great right away, plz, that's the whole sit him year 1 strategy, do we forget about that?

Moody doesn't have to be great, but he has to hit around 80%+ that's the mendoza line for kickers, York hit 75% last season, he still has a job, but perhaps on the hot seat a bit, again you never answered the above question directly, about what would you do, seems clear from your posts, you would acquire an udfa.. however suppose you want Dunn, and LAR signs him before you do, no guarantee you sign the player you want, unless you draft that guy.

80% puts him at like 26th in the league. York was one of the worst kickers in the league last yr and they're weren't in Super Bowl or bust mode like here.

KS still thinks he can be great, he's said that recently. Kid got hurt early in the season and we didn't get to see any progress. Brock's play changed all that as well.

there isn't a world where we should even be discussing a QB and kicker in the same sentence. It was a dumb whataboutisms to bring up. Kickers don't get any leeway…you miss a couple and you're gone. That's why they don't get taken high. It's not just about talent, it's such a mental position and that s**t can and doe switch for them.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by btthepunk:
Like he has a real answer for that

There is a real answer, or at least I can see logic involved here that is sound

1. kickers are generally replaceable
2. teams generally don't carry two kickers on their roster
3. because of part 1, kickers who arent paid big money can and are cut often when/if they struggle
4. generally third round picks who arent kickers are not cut when/if they struggle
5. jake moody is a kicker who was drafted ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶r̶d̶ ̶r̶o̶u̶n̶d̶ 99th overall.

Both are true,...just edited for better accuracy. Let's keep the ball centered.

Random, bro give it a rest. Pick 99th overall….in the third round. Both are true as well

One is a bit of a misnomer,...while the other is a clear-cut designation. And why give accuracy a rest in a thread about place kicking?

Originally posted by NYniner85:
80% puts him at like 26th in the league. York was one of the worst kickers in the league last yr and they're weren't in Super Bowl or bust mode like here.

KS still thinks he can be great, he's said that recently. Kid got hurt early in the season and we didn't get to see any progress. Brock's play changed all that as well.

there isn't a world where we should even be discussing a QB and kicker in the same sentence. It was a dumb whataboutisms to bring up. Kickers don't get any leeway…you miss a couple and you're gone. That's why they don't get taken high. It's not just about talent, it's such a mental position and that s**t can and doe switch for them.

well i do find it odd you think a comp 3rd on a K is reckless

meanwhile at QB we have pick 262 as the deemed QB1 by the org over a 3 ones investment and you are the "this is fine" meme

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
80% puts him at like 26th in the league. York was one of the worst kickers in the league last yr and they're weren't in Super Bowl or bust mode like here.

KS still thinks he can be great, he's said that recently. Kid got hurt early in the season and we didn't get to see any progress. Brock's play changed all that as well.

there isn't a world where we should even be discussing a QB and kicker in the same sentence. It was a dumb whataboutisms to bring up. Kickers don't get any leeway…you miss a couple and you're gone. That's why they don't get taken high. It's not just about talent, it's such a mental position and that s**t can and doe switch for them.

well i do find it odd you think a comp 3rd on a K is reckless

meanwhile at QB we have pick 262 as the deemed QB1 by the org over a 3 ones investment and you are the "this is fine" meme

not even sure why we're still complaining about Booty Moody.. The guy will be our PK this year unless he pulls a hammy or tear his ACL like Gramatica after celebrating an awesome FG.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
well i do find it odd you think a comp 3rd on a K is reckless

meanwhile at QB we have pick 262 as the deemed QB1 by the org over a 3 ones investment and you are the "this is fine" meme

Top 100 pick when they don't have a 1st or 2nd. let's get it right at least. It was an arrogant pick saying they didn't need anything else more than a f**king kicker.

where have I said it was fine? I wanted Lance to play from day 1. I accepted when we moved up for a QB that whomever it was there was gonna be a growth period full of ups and downs. I never expected it to be Mahomes 40TDs and 4000 yards the moment he stepped on the field. Unlike a lot of people I was patient there.

again why you keep trying to compare a kicker to a QB is beyond me…all that shows me is you're trying to toss out whataboutisms that couldn't be more unrelatable.

all I said was Gould was an UDFA when someone tried to bring up context. You're over here in right field talking to yourself about whatever.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
well i do find it odd you think a comp 3rd on a K is reckless

meanwhile at QB we have pick 262 as the deemed QB1 by the org over a 3 ones investment and you are the "this is fine" meme

Top 100 pick when they don't have a 1st or 2nd. let's get it right at least. It was an arrogant pick saying they didn't need anything else more than a f**king kicker.

where have I said it was fine? I wanted Lance to play from day 1. I accepted when we moved up for a QB that whomever it was there was gonna be a growth period full of ups and downs. I never expected it to be Mahomes 40TDs and 4000 yards the moment he stepped on the field. Unlike a lot of people I was patient there.

again why you keep trying to compare a kicker to a QB is beyond me…all that shows me is you're trying to toss out whataboutisms that couldn't be more unrelatable.

this is fine in terms of you don't question the deployment of all that (massive) draft capital on TL, in fact you agree with it (from what I gather), yet you are up in arms over what is by comparison like 1% of that level of draft assets/value

it's making a mountain of a molehill, if you have heard that one

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
well i do find it odd you think a comp 3rd on a K is reckless

meanwhile at QB we have pick 262 as the deemed QB1 by the org over a 3 ones investment and you are the "this is fine" meme

Top 100 pick when they don't have a 1st or 2nd. let's get it right at least. It was an arrogant pick saying they didn't need anything else more than a f**king kicker.

where have I said it was fine? I wanted Lance to play from day 1. I accepted when we moved up for a QB that whomever it was there was gonna be a growth period full of ups and downs. I never expected it to be Mahomes 40TDs and 4000 yards the moment he stepped on the field. Unlike a lot of people I was patient there.

again why you keep trying to compare a kicker to a QB is beyond me…all that shows me is you're trying to toss out whataboutisms that couldn't be more unrelatable.

all I said was Gould was an UDFA when someone tried to bring up context. You're over here in right field talking to yourself about whatever.

RARE that I actually agree w/NY's posts..

EVERYONE here were laughing of MY idea to draft Evan McPherson in the 5th or even 4th three years ago, but yet, the same fans are staying silent after Shanny and Lynch drafts Booty Moody in the 3rd..

is this team actually a PK away from a Super Bowl that we can't point out other weaknesses or a possible player that can come in and play just in case the starter gets injured?

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
well i do find it odd you think a comp 3rd on a K is reckless

meanwhile at QB we have pick 262 as the deemed QB1 by the org over a 3 ones investment and you are the "this is fine" meme

Top 100 pick when they don't have a 1st or 2nd. let's get it right at least. It was an arrogant pick saying they didn't need anything else more than a f**king kicker.

where have I said it was fine? I wanted Lance to play from day 1. I accepted when we moved up for a QB that whomever it was there was gonna be a growth period full of ups and downs. I never expected it to be Mahomes 40TDs and 4000 yards the moment he stepped on the field. Unlike a lot of people I was patient there.

again why you keep trying to compare a kicker to a QB is beyond me…all that shows me is you're trying to toss out whataboutisms that couldn't be more unrelatable.

all I said was Gould was an UDFA when someone tried to bring up context. You're over here in right field talking to yourself about whatever.

RARE that I actually agree w/NY's posts..

EVERYONE here were laughing of MY idea to draft Evan McPherson in the 5th or even 4th three years ago, but yet, the same fans are staying silent after Shanny and Lynch drafts Booty Moody in the 3rd..

is this team actually a PK away from a Super Bowl that we can't point out other weaknesses or a possible player that can come in and play just in case the starter gets injured?

Using a 3rd round compensatory is about he same as a 4th rounder. If this had been a strong draft with deeper talent I don't think they would have darted him as high. My guess is they looked at the talent on the board and didn't think anyone remaining would give them as much help as Moody.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
well i do find it odd you think a comp 3rd on a K is reckless

meanwhile at QB we have pick 262 as the deemed QB1 by the org over a 3 ones investment and you are the "this is fine" meme

Top 100 pick when they don't have a 1st or 2nd. let's get it right at least. It was an arrogant pick saying they didn't need anything else more than a f**king kicker.

where have I said it was fine? I wanted Lance to play from day 1. I accepted when we moved up for a QB that whomever it was there was gonna be a growth period full of ups and downs. I never expected it to be Mahomes 40TDs and 4000 yards the moment he stepped on the field. Unlike a lot of people I was patient there.

again why you keep trying to compare a kicker to a QB is beyond me…all that shows me is you're trying to toss out whataboutisms that couldn't be more unrelatable.

all I said was Gould was an UDFA when someone tried to bring up context. You're over here in right field talking to yourself about whatever.

RARE that I actually agree w/NY's posts..

EVERYONE here were laughing of MY idea to draft Evan McPherson in the 5th or even 4th three years ago, but yet, the same fans are staying silent after Shanny and Lynch drafts Booty Moody in the 3rd..

is this team actually a PK away from a Super Bowl that we can't point out other weaknesses or a possible player that can come in and play just in case the starter gets injured?

Using a 3rd round compensatory is about he same as a 4th rounder. If this had been a strong draft with deeper talent I don't think they would have darted him as high. My guess is they looked at the talent on the board and didn't think anyone remaining would give them as much help as Moody.

There was a 6'8 OT on the board after both of our 3rd rounders that was supposed to go in round 1, not to mention 3-5 corners and 1-2 DE's that would probably start on our team.

I wasn't a fan of the Moody pick, and I'm still not a fan, but the Latu pick was much worse IMO.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by btthepunk:
Like he has a real answer for that

There is a real answer, or at least I can see logic involved here that is sound

1. kickers are generally replaceable
2. teams generally don't carry two kickers on their roster
3. because of part 1, kickers who arent paid big money can and are cut often when/if they struggle
4. generally third round picks who arent kickers are not cut when/if they struggle
5. jake moody is a kicker who was drafted ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶r̶d̶ ̶r̶o̶u̶n̶d̶ 99th overall.

Both are true,...just edited for better accuracy. Let's keep the ball centered.

Random, bro give it a rest. Pick 99th overall….in the third round. Both are true as well

One is a bit of a misnomer,...while the other is a clear-cut designation. And why give accuracy a rest in a thread about place kicking?

Lol oh really? And which one is the misnomer? The one that you crossed out? I'm done, such a dumbass thing to get all bent for, you win random, he was pick #99, not a 3rd round pick. Mods, change the thread title

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
well i do find it odd you think a comp 3rd on a K is reckless

meanwhile at QB we have pick 262 as the deemed QB1 by the org over a 3 ones investment and you are the "this is fine" meme

Top 100 pick when they don't have a 1st or 2nd. let's get it right at least. It was an arrogant pick saying they didn't need anything else more than a f**king kicker.

where have I said it was fine? I wanted Lance to play from day 1. I accepted when we moved up for a QB that whomever it was there was gonna be a growth period full of ups and downs. I never expected it to be Mahomes 40TDs and 4000 yards the moment he stepped on the field. Unlike a lot of people I was patient there.

again why you keep trying to compare a kicker to a QB is beyond me…all that shows me is you're trying to toss out whataboutisms that couldn't be more unrelatable.

all I said was Gould was an UDFA when someone tried to bring up context. You're over here in right field talking to yourself about whatever.

RARE that I actually agree w/NY's posts..

EVERYONE here were laughing of MY idea to draft Evan McPherson in the 5th or even 4th three years ago, but yet, the same fans are staying silent after Shanny and Lynch drafts Booty Moody in the 3rd..

is this team actually a PK away from a Super Bowl that we can't point out other weaknesses or a possible player that can come in and play just in case the starter gets injured?

Using a 3rd round compensatory is about he same as a 4th rounder. If this had been a strong draft with deeper talent I don't think they would have darted him as high. My guess is they looked at the talent on the board and didn't think anyone remaining would give them as much help as Moody.

There was a 6'8 OT on the board after both of our 3rd rounders that was supposed to go in round 1, not to mention 3-5 corners and 1-2 DE's that would probably start on our team.

I wasn't a fan of the Moody pick, and I'm still not a fan, but the Latu pick was much worse IMO.

I just think that the Brick After Brick Brothers are bad when it comes to planning.. I believe that both are clueless when it comes to finding what the team really needs to go that next level..

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
well i do find it odd you think a comp 3rd on a K is reckless

meanwhile at QB we have pick 262 as the deemed QB1 by the org over a 3 ones investment and you are the "this is fine" meme

Top 100 pick when they don't have a 1st or 2nd. let's get it right at least. It was an arrogant pick saying they didn't need anything else more than a f**king kicker.

where have I said it was fine? I wanted Lance to play from day 1. I accepted when we moved up for a QB that whomever it was there was gonna be a growth period full of ups and downs. I never expected it to be Mahomes 40TDs and 4000 yards the moment he stepped on the field. Unlike a lot of people I was patient there.

again why you keep trying to compare a kicker to a QB is beyond me…all that shows me is you're trying to toss out whataboutisms that couldn't be more unrelatable.

all I said was Gould was an UDFA when someone tried to bring up context. You're over here in right field talking to yourself about whatever.

RARE that I actually agree w/NY's posts..

EVERYONE here were laughing of MY idea to draft Evan McPherson in the 5th or even 4th three years ago, but yet, the same fans are staying silent after Shanny and Lynch drafts Booty Moody in the 3rd..

is this team actually a PK away from a Super Bowl that we can't point out other weaknesses or a possible player that can come in and play just in case the starter gets injured?

Using a 3rd round compensatory is about he same as a 4th rounder. If this had been a strong draft with deeper talent I don't think they would have darted him as high. My guess is they looked at the talent on the board and didn't think anyone remaining would give them as much help as Moody.

There was a 6'8 OT on the board after both of our 3rd rounders that was supposed to go in round 1, not to mention 3-5 corners and 1-2 DE's that would probably start on our team.

I wasn't a fan of the Moody pick, and I'm still not a fan, but the Latu pick was much worse IMO.

I just think that the Brick After Brick Brothers are bad when it comes to planning.. I believe that both are clueless when it comes to finding what the team really needs to go that next level..

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Using a 3rd round compensatory is about he same as a 4th rounder. If this had been a strong draft with deeper talent I don't think they would have darted him as high. My guess is they looked at the talent on the board and didn't think anyone remaining would give them as much help as Moody.

What's wrong with just going BPA? They basically said Moody was the 99th overall player on their big board in this draft…I know it was an awful draft but damn.

they believe he's one of the best kickers to come out of college since 2000 by valuing him that high. We will see. Comes off as a bit arrogant to me.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Using a 3rd round compensatory is about he same as a 4th rounder. If this had been a strong draft with deeper talent I don't think they would have darted him as high. My guess is they looked at the talent on the board and didn't think anyone remaining would give them as much help as Moody.

What's wrong with just going BPA? They basically said Moody was the 99th overall player on their big board in this draft…I know it was an awful draft but damn.

they believe he's one of the best kickers to come out of college since 2000 by valuing him that high. We will see. Comes off as a bit arrogant to me.

what if BPA was Sermon/TDP?

in other words, what we've been doing in round 3 for a couple years now

rather have Moody

you are getting into the weeds with oh they are valuing him at x,y,z.. since 2000..

it's not that complicated, we needed a kicker, he was the guy they wanted, he wasn't gonna be there in round 5

Wish the season started already so we know how the drafted players do in the game?