Jake Moody-K-Michigan 3rd Round 2023 Draft

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Using a 3rd round compensatory is about he same as a 4th rounder. If this had been a strong draft with deeper talent I don't think they would have darted him as high. My guess is they looked at the talent on the board and didn't think anyone remaining would give them as much help as Moody.

What's wrong with just going BPA? They basically said Moody was the 99th overall player on their big board in this draft…I know it was an awful draft but damn.

they believe he's one of the best kickers to come out of college since 2000 by valuing him that high. We will see. Comes off as a bit arrogant to me.

what if BPA was Sermon/TDP?

in other words, what we've been doing in round 3 for a couple years now

rather have Moody

you are getting into the weeds with oh they are valuing him at x,y,z.. since 2000..

it's not that complicated, we needed a kicker, he was the guy they wanted, he wasn't gonna be there in round 5

TBF... I think Moody will easily be a better pick than Sermon and TDP.

So if we're grading against our own 3rd round picks, Moody was an awesome pick!

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
what if BPA was Sermon/TDP?

in other words, what we've been doing in round 3 for a couple years now

rather have Moody

you are getting into the weeds with oh they are valuing him at x,y,z.. since 2000..

it's not that complicated, we needed a kicker, he was the guy they wanted, he wasn't gonna be there in round 5

How is that getting into the weeds? It's the truth and not some hard thing to figure out. Teams don't draft a kicker high. Period.

I'll take a RB over a kicker any day…If you hit there, you got a $12M player dirt cheap. You hit on a kicker, that's a $4M player.

Try to twist it as much as you want. Toss out what ifs, doesn't change that fact that it was an arrogant pick with limited upside. He doesn't get years to develop like anyone else. He's either gonna be good right off the bat or SF will be looking for a new kicker asap.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
well i do find it odd you think a comp 3rd on a K is reckless

meanwhile at QB we have pick 262 as the deemed QB1 by the org over a 3 ones investment and you are the "this is fine" meme

Top 100 pick when they don't have a 1st or 2nd. let's get it right at least. It was an arrogant pick saying they didn't need anything else more than a f**king kicker.

where have I said it was fine? I wanted Lance to play from day 1. I accepted when we moved up for a QB that whomever it was there was gonna be a growth period full of ups and downs. I never expected it to be Mahomes 40TDs and 4000 yards the moment he stepped on the field. Unlike a lot of people I was patient there.

again why you keep trying to compare a kicker to a QB is beyond me…all that shows me is you're trying to toss out whataboutisms that couldn't be more unrelatable.

all I said was Gould was an UDFA when someone tried to bring up context. You're over here in right field talking to yourself about whatever.

RARE that I actually agree w/NY's posts..

EVERYONE here were laughing of MY idea to draft Evan McPherson in the 5th or even 4th three years ago, but yet, the same fans are staying silent after Shanny and Lynch drafts Booty Moody in the 3rd..

is this team actually a PK away from a Super Bowl that we can't point out other weaknesses or a possible player that can come in and play just in case the starter gets injured?

Using a 3rd round compensatory is about he same as a 4th rounder. If this had been a strong draft with deeper talent I don't think they would have darted him as high. My guess is they looked at the talent on the board and didn't think anyone remaining would give them as much help as Moody.

There was a 6'8 OT on the board after both of our 3rd rounders that was supposed to go in round 1, not to mention 3-5 corners and 1-2 DE's that would probably start on our team.

I wasn't a fan of the Moody pick, and I'm still not a fan, but the Latu pick was much worse IMO.

I just think that the Brick After Brick Brothers are bad when it comes to planning.. I believe that both are clueless when it comes to finding what the team really needs to go that next level..

Wow Moon. Just an accident that they got from the roster they inherited to where they are now. It's a miracle! LOL

Originally posted by NYniner85:
How is that getting into the weeds? It's the truth and not some hard thing to figure out. Teams don't draft a kicker high. Period.

I'll take a RB over a kicker any day…If you hit there, you got a $12M player dirt cheap. You hit on a kicker, that's a $4M player.

Try to twist it as much as you want. Toss out what ifs, doesn't change that fact that it was an arrogant pick with limited upside. He doesn't get years to develop like anyone else. He's either gonna be good right off the bat or SF will be looking for a new kicker asap.

It was definitely arrogant, and while I do subscribe to positional value in Rd 1 it kind of goes out of the window after that, and besides drafting a starting QB as Mr Irrelevant takes a lot of the draft finances out of play for a while.

It is still as simple as if it hits it was a good pick, we needed a kicker, we overdrafted him, but if he is good right off the bat we've won.

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
well i do find it odd you think a comp 3rd on a K is reckless

meanwhile at QB we have pick 262 as the deemed QB1 by the org over a 3 ones investment and you are the "this is fine" meme

Top 100 pick when they don't have a 1st or 2nd. let's get it right at least. It was an arrogant pick saying they didn't need anything else more than a f**king kicker.

where have I said it was fine? I wanted Lance to play from day 1. I accepted when we moved up for a QB that whomever it was there was gonna be a growth period full of ups and downs. I never expected it to be Mahomes 40TDs and 4000 yards the moment he stepped on the field. Unlike a lot of people I was patient there.

again why you keep trying to compare a kicker to a QB is beyond me…all that shows me is you're trying to toss out whataboutisms that couldn't be more unrelatable.

all I said was Gould was an UDFA when someone tried to bring up context. You're over here in right field talking to yourself about whatever.

RARE that I actually agree w/NY's posts..

EVERYONE here were laughing of MY idea to draft Evan McPherson in the 5th or even 4th three years ago, but yet, the same fans are staying silent after Shanny and Lynch drafts Booty Moody in the 3rd..

is this team actually a PK away from a Super Bowl that we can't point out other weaknesses or a possible player that can come in and play just in case the starter gets injured?

Using a 3rd round compensatory is about he same as a 4th rounder. If this had been a strong draft with deeper talent I don't think they would have darted him as high. My guess is they looked at the talent on the board and didn't think anyone remaining would give them as much help as Moody.

There was a 6'8 OT on the board after both of our 3rd rounders that was supposed to go in round 1, not to mention 3-5 corners and 1-2 DE's that would probably start on our team.

I wasn't a fan of the Moody pick, and I'm still not a fan, but the Latu pick was much worse IMO.

I just think that the Brick After Brick Brothers are bad when it comes to planning.. I believe that both are clueless when it comes to finding what the team really needs to go that next level..

Wow Moon. Just an accident that they got from the roster they inherited to where they are now. It's a miracle! LOL

HOW high have your grades on them when it comes to drafting players?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Using a 3rd round compensatory is about he same as a 4th rounder. If this had been a strong draft with deeper talent I don't think they would have darted him as high. My guess is they looked at the talent on the board and didn't think anyone remaining would give them as much help as Moody.

What's wrong with just going BPA? They basically said Moody was the 99th overall player on their big board in this draft…I know it was an awful draft but damn.

they believe he's one of the best kickers to come out of college since 2000 by valuing him that high. We will see. Comes off as a bit arrogant to me.

The odds Moody will comp to Gould are less than 1/100. The question is, what would have been the harm in udfa'ing K4?

3K's were drafted in 3, 4, 6 rounds. We could have gotten K3 in Round 6.

How much of a drop off was there, to justify passing on DE or OL talent?

We'll have to wait and see.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
How is that getting into the weeds? It's the truth and not some hard thing to figure out. Teams don't draft a kicker high. Period.

Round 1 #17 isn't high?

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Using a 3rd round compensatory is about he same as a 4th rounder. If this had been a strong draft with deeper talent I don't think they would have darted him as high. My guess is they looked at the talent on the board and didn't think anyone remaining would give them as much help as Moody.

What's wrong with just going BPA? They basically said Moody was the 99th overall player on their big board in this draft…I know it was an awful draft but damn.

they believe he's one of the best kickers to come out of college since 2000 by valuing him that high. We will see. Comes off as a bit arrogant to me.

The odds Moody will comp to Gould are less than 1/100. The question is, what would have been the harm in udfa'ing K4?

3K's were drafted in 3, 4, 6 rounds. We could have gotten K3 in Round 6.

How much of a drop off was there, to justify passing on DE or OL talent?

We'll have to wait and see.

The likelhood of any of them being successful is low, we're just trying to take the one with the best chance of it and I think we succeeded. Seems to have that McPherson confidence "Looks like we're going to Superbowl guys" as he strolls out to nail the game winner

Originally posted by NC49er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
How is that getting into the weeds? It's the truth and not some hard thing to figure out. Teams don't draft a kicker high. Period.

Round 1 #17 isn't high?

and the funny thing the Raiders won on that pick, one could argue with relative ease

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
well i do find it odd you think a comp 3rd on a K is reckless

meanwhile at QB we have pick 262 as the deemed QB1 by the org over a 3 ones investment and you are the "this is fine" meme

Top 100 pick when they don't have a 1st or 2nd. let's get it right at least. It was an arrogant pick saying they didn't need anything else more than a f**king kicker.

where have I said it was fine? I wanted Lance to play from day 1. I accepted when we moved up for a QB that whomever it was there was gonna be a growth period full of ups and downs. I never expected it to be Mahomes 40TDs and 4000 yards the moment he stepped on the field. Unlike a lot of people I was patient there.

again why you keep trying to compare a kicker to a QB is beyond me…all that shows me is you're trying to toss out whataboutisms that couldn't be more unrelatable.

all I said was Gould was an UDFA when someone tried to bring up context. You're over here in right field talking to yourself about whatever.

RARE that I actually agree w/NY's posts..

EVERYONE here were laughing of MY idea to draft Evan McPherson in the 5th or even 4th three years ago, but yet, the same fans are staying silent after Shanny and Lynch drafts Booty Moody in the 3rd..

is this team actually a PK away from a Super Bowl that we can't point out other weaknesses or a possible player that can come in and play just in case the starter gets injured?

Using a 3rd round compensatory is about he same as a 4th rounder. If this had been a strong draft with deeper talent I don't think they would have darted him as high. My guess is they looked at the talent on the board and didn't think anyone remaining would give them as much help as Moody.

There was a 6'8 OT on the board after both of our 3rd rounders that was supposed to go in round 1, not to mention 3-5 corners and 1-2 DE's that would probably start on our team.

I wasn't a fan of the Moody pick, and I'm still not a fan, but the Latu pick was much worse IMO.

I just think that the Brick After Brick Brothers are bad when it comes to planning.. I believe that both are clueless when it comes to finding what the team really needs to go that next level..

Wow Moon. Just an accident that they got from the roster they inherited to where they are now. It's a miracle! LOL

HOW high have your grades on them when it comes to drafting players?

If they are so bad, why are we in the playoffs and had a Super Bowl appearance! that could have been won but simply couldn't finish? Especially when they inherited a swamp of a team. Look around the league. I will take them.

EVERYTEAM MISSES. Look around the league. Hindsight is 20/20. Easy to second guess. All those teams that missed on Purdy, Pat, Brady or Marino.

All those teams that wish they were us (majority).

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NC49er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
How is that getting into the weeds? It's the truth and not some hard thing to figure out. Teams don't draft a kicker high. Period.

Round 1 #17 isn't high?

and the funny thing the Raiders won on that pick, one could argue with relative ease

Who cares what every other team does? Just go after the players you want and think will be studs. Having a mediocre kicker is a horrible problem to have. A lot of teams have struggling kickers and it costs them games every year.

Ideally, yeah we don't use a third rounder, but we had to in order to get the guy we wanted. It isn't like we don't blow at third round selections anyways. Essentially have missed in 11/12 third rounder choices.

especially in this weak draft. Doesn't make any sense to want a project player over the best kicker in the draft, and our only team need.

if you're doing just about anything cause "that's what others do", then it's most likely a poor choice. You try to maximize your picks but your #1 priority is to make your team better. Not fit in lol

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NC49er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
How is that getting into the weeds? It's the truth and not some hard thing to figure out. Teams don't draft a kicker high. Period.

Round 1 #17 isn't high?

and the funny thing the Raiders won on that pick, one could argue with relative ease

Who cares what every other team does? Just go after the players you want and think will be studs. Having a mediocre kicker is a horrible problem to have. A lot of teams have struggling kickers and it costs them games every year.

Ideally, yeah we don't use a third rounder, but we had to in order to get the guy we wanted. It isn't like we don't blow at third round selections anyways. Essentially have missed in 11/12 third rounder choices.

especially in this weak draft. Doesn't make any sense to want a project player over the best kicker in the draft, and our only team need.

I agree totally

We use third round picks on kickers and found a starting caliber QB with the last pick in the draft. We are all over the place haha

Originally posted by NYniner85:
How is that getting into the weeds? It's the truth and not some hard thing to figure out. Teams don't draft a kicker high. Period.

I'll take a RB over a kicker any day…If you hit there, you got a $12M player dirt cheap. You hit on a kicker, that's a $4M player.

Try to twist it as much as you want. Toss out what ifs, doesn't change that fact that it was an arrogant pick with limited upside. He doesn't get years to develop like anyone else. He's either gonna be good right off the bat or SF will be looking for a new kicker asap.

Even the best RB in the draft wouldn't start over CMC while we have a massive hole a K.

Everyone takes the K for granted until we end up with Jose Cortez and he's single handedly losing games for us.

Originally posted by 9moon:
I just think that the Brick After Brick Brothers are bad when it comes to planning.. I believe that both are clueless when it comes to finding what the team really needs to go that next level..

Lol