Joe Montana or Steve Young?

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by 9moon:
with all HONESTY, I did not think Reid was going to win one in Philly... I also knew he was not going to be a 20 year HC w/the Eagles.

Kyle may win one, I just don't think here in SF...

Tell me, do you see him coaching this team if we decline badly the next 2 years?

Why would we decline badly? Are you saying we decline badly bc of him or some other reason?

I'm probably the wrong person to ask bc i hate when teams move on from coaches every few years. I like what teams like the Steelers do, they get their HC and keep him for a long time. Some years they are going to be good and you hope they win it all and some years they have to go through a rebuilding phase. As long as the coach is willing to change with the times i think teams should keep their coaches for a long time, especially if they get to the playoffs consistently.

Im with you. Barring total incompetence, I wish teams were more patient. Too many people think success is this linear progression when in reality its volatile. There are ups and downs, but over time, you work to trend up. Only the Tomsula like coaches should be one and done. But if there are sparks, development of players, the team isn't hasn't tuned out the coach, stick with them- ESPECIALLY if there is no franchise QB in the building. Four years is fair outside of the few exceptions.

I'm all for the longevity... but some where down the road, each of us must know when enough's enough.. Changes are needed sometimes.. . Tampa won it after Dungy.. Colts won it with Dungy..

I just fully believe that there are coaches that are not meant to be a HC but can be a hell of a coodinator.. Dick LeBeau is a great DC.. Wade Philips a great DC.. Norv... June Jones.. Martz.. very respected OC.. but the line stops there...

just look at Mooch, how good was he as our HC, but the guy can't put it together and can't get pass Green Bay... he's just like Shanny... he's a good advertisement but not a fine product.. Mooch had 2 Super Bowl winning teams can could not get it done..

.. and as bad a HC as Seifert was, he at least knew to " NOT MESS IT UP " his 1st year.. then his SF 91 team, that was Super Bowl in the bag but did not know what to do w/the team against a young Dallas ... had not been for Prime Time, Dallas gone 3 SB..

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 9moon:
MORE power to you if you can remember all the teams that took the 2nd place trophies.

More valuable then the Paul Bunyan Axe trophy

of course, it's the 2nd place reward.

Which first time "in the SB" coach is winning it next year ?

it wont be Shanny, he already choked up that chance against KC..

That wasn't the question. Which HC is winning it ?

no FIRST TIMER HC next will win it.. but I do believe that Miami will win it all IF they land Aaron to be their QB. .. and sad to say, it may just be against our 49ers .

What do you mean no first timer will win it.. all your posts is about second place trophies means the coach sucks. So your logic means there has to be a first timer.

now rodgers has to join Miami to win.. ? Lol. yeah a lot of team would win with rodgers including the 49ers

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 9moon:
MORE power to you if you can remember all the teams that took the 2nd place trophies.

More valuable then the Paul Bunyan Axe trophy

of course, it's the 2nd place reward.

Which first time "in the SB" coach is winning it next year ?

it wont be Shanny, he already choked up that chance against KC..

That wasn't the question. Which HC is winning it ?

no FIRST TIMER HC next will win it.. but I do believe that Miami will win it all IF they land Aaron to be their QB. .. and sad to say, it may just be against our 49ers .

What do you mean no first timer will win it.. all your posts is about second place trophies means the coach sucks. So your logic means there has to be a first timer.

now rodgers has to join Miami to win.. ? Lol. yeah a lot of team would win with rodgers including the 49ers

no first timer will win it NEXT YEAR.. that's what i meant to post.. as for Rodgers and the 49ers.. .WHY don't you cry about Shanny not wanting Brady the year we had a chance to trade for him?

WAS IT NOT HIS CHOICE TO STAY W/GRAPPY? Sure sign of a great HC to YOU.. right ??

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 9moon:
MORE power to you if you can remember all the teams that took the 2nd place trophies.

More valuable then the Paul Bunyan Axe trophy

of course, it's the 2nd place reward.

Which first time "in the SB" coach is winning it next year ?

it wont be Shanny, he already choked up that chance against KC..

That wasn't the question. Which HC is winning it ?

no FIRST TIMER HC next will win it.. but I do believe that Miami will win it all IF they land Aaron to be their QB. .. and sad to say, it may just be against our 49ers .

What do you mean no first timer will win it.. all your posts is about second place trophies means the coach sucks. So your logic means there has to be a first timer.

now rodgers has to join Miami to win.. ? Lol. yeah a lot of team would win with rodgers including the 49ers

no first timer will win it NEXT YEAR.. that's what i meant to post.. as for Rodgers and the 49ers.. .WHY don't you cry about Shanny not wanting Brady the year we had a chance to trade for him?

WAS IT NOT HIS CHOICE TO STAY W/GRAPPY? Sure sign of a great HC to YOU.. right ??

So a second place HC will win next year is what you are saying now ?.. that goes against everything you have been posting for a long time now.. why are you now contradicting yourself ? is because you have no idea what you are posting about ?

as for Brady.. Taking Brady in 2020 is like singing Jimmy g now for 2023.. another bad take that you keep repeating

How about coming up with some good takes and not make up things with bad hindsight takes..

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 9moon:
MORE power to you if you can remember all the teams that took the 2nd place trophies.

More valuable then the Paul Bunyan Axe trophy

of course, it's the 2nd place reward.

Which first time "in the SB" coach is winning it next year ?

it wont be Shanny, he already choked up that chance against KC..

That wasn't the question. Which HC is winning it ?

no FIRST TIMER HC next will win it.. but I do believe that Miami will win it all IF they land Aaron to be their QB. .. and sad to say, it may just be against our 49ers .

What do you mean no first timer will win it.. all your posts is about second place trophies means the coach sucks. So your logic means there has to be a first timer.

now rodgers has to join Miami to win.. ? Lol. yeah a lot of team would win with rodgers including the 49ers

no first timer will win it NEXT YEAR.. that's what i meant to post.. as for Rodgers and the 49ers.. .WHY don't you cry about Shanny not wanting Brady the year we had a chance to trade for him?

WAS IT NOT HIS CHOICE TO STAY W/GRAPPY? Sure sign of a great HC to YOU.. right ??

So a second place HC will win next year is what you are saying now ?.. that goes against everything you have been posting for a long time now.. why are you now contradicting yourself ? is because you have no idea what you are posting about ?

as for Brady.. Taking Brady in 2020 is like singing Jimmy g now for 2023.. another bad take that you keep repeating

How about coming up with some good takes and not make up things with bad hindsight takes..

NO FIRST TIMER WILL WIN IT NEXT YEAR.. all caps.. loud and clear.. no?

SHANNY will NEVER win one here in SF... lets just make it easiest for you..

Lol some people actually voted Steve.

Lmfao

Def lesa than 35 years old.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 9moon:
MORE power to you if you can remember all the teams that took the 2nd place trophies.

More valuable then the Paul Bunyan Axe trophy

of course, it's the 2nd place reward.

Which first time "in the SB" coach is winning it next year ?

it wont be Shanny, he already choked up that chance against KC..

That wasn't the question. Which HC is winning it ?

no FIRST TIMER HC next will win it.. but I do believe that Miami will win it all IF they land Aaron to be their QB. .. and sad to say, it may just be against our 49ers .

What do you mean no first timer will win it.. all your posts is about second place trophies means the coach sucks. So your logic means there has to be a first timer.

now rodgers has to join Miami to win.. ? Lol. yeah a lot of team would win with rodgers including the 49ers

no first timer will win it NEXT YEAR.. that's what i meant to post.. as for Rodgers and the 49ers.. .WHY don't you cry about Shanny not wanting Brady the year we had a chance to trade for him?

WAS IT NOT HIS CHOICE TO STAY W/GRAPPY? Sure sign of a great HC to YOU.. right ??

So a second place HC will win next year is what you are saying now ?.. that goes against everything you have been posting for a long time now.. why are you now contradicting yourself ? is because you have no idea what you are posting about ?

as for Brady.. Taking Brady in 2020 is like singing Jimmy g now for 2023.. another bad take that you keep repeating

How about coming up with some good takes and not make up things with bad hindsight takes..

NO FIRST TIMER WILL WIN IT NEXT YEAR.. all caps.. loud and clear.. no?

SHANNY will NEVER win one here in SF... lets just make it easiest for you..

Do you not see how you are contradicting yourself? with that and no context with your reasoning.. It comes off as just hater posts by you.

Kyle may never win one here in SF or anywhere else can be true, but to win a SB for any coach is not easy in anyway.

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
Lol some people actually voted Steve.

Lmfao

Def lesa than 35 years old.

Put Garcia on lets see if he gets a vote

Just realized Brock & Montana both had their right elbows injured. Sigh 😕

Just voted, #16 will always be my 🐐 IMO.
My son asks today... Brady or Montana, I don't hesitate .

Another question, swap their time slots out and do you think Steve wins 4 Super Bowls? I never met Joe, personally but people say he isn't as nice as Steve. That said football isn't a popularity contest alone.

I don't want to have to pick one. I loved em both for their respective merits but those 4 Super Bowls and MVP's are impressive. The 49ers haven't won a Superbowl in 30 years just about. Man that hurts. Excited to see the team at least competing for a championship now.

Steve is my favorite, but Joe was the better QB.

Originally posted by SFVNiner:
Just voted, #16 will always be my 🐐 IMO.
My son asks today... Brady or Montana, I don't hesitate .

Loyalties aside, you would take Brady and his 7 SB trophies any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Montana was clutch, but unfortunately Brady has everything but the 49ers helmet.

Which is about to change soon

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by SFVNiner:
Just voted, #16 will always be my 🐐 IMO.
My son asks today... Brady or Montana, I don't hesitate .

Loyalties aside, you would take Brady and his 7 SB trophies any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Montana was clutch, but unfortunately Brady has everything but the 49ers helmet.

Which is about to change soon

compare era to era

also TB12 was essentially cheating for half those with his avocado ice cream which wasn't invented in Joe's day

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by SFVNiner:
Just voted, #16 will always be my 🐐 IMO.
My son asks today... Brady or Montana, I don't hesitate .

Loyalties aside, you would take Brady and his 7 SB trophies any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Montana was clutch, but unfortunately Brady has everything but the 49ers helmet.

Which is about to change soon

compare era to era

also TB12 was essentially cheating for half those with his avocado ice cream which wasn't invented in Joe's day

Yes we can spin it any way we want. Tougher to play. Less penalties called. QBs not protected. It's all there, except Tom Brady unlike his other peers continues to win year after year. The trend hasn't been that a lot of QBs are protected and offenses are favored therefore more QBs are winning more SBs. Brady, like Montana, stands above the rest. Except he has more…