49ers sign DT Javon Hargrave | Page 102

Jan 23, 2025 at 8:25 AM

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Originally posted by Stanley:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Let's be honest, Lynch has wasted so much money on his big free-agent moves in his career with us. Overall pathetic to be honest.

Relative to who?

They rarely can name many better. The mere fact that they have to bring up the very best examples as someone better shows the class Lynch is in. It's like when people criticize Kyle, they immediately go to Andy Reid as someone better, which is the greatest piece of evidence that Kyle is a top 5 coach.

Jan 23, 2025 at 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by Stanley:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Let's be honest, Lynch has wasted so much money on his big free-agent moves in his career with us. Overall pathetic to be honest.

Relative to who?

Yeah as if we're the only team to strike out when it comes to big FA deals, the majority, I'd say 8/10 maybe 9/10 of those players never get to see that full value, it's a crapshoot in free agency just like the draft, especially when you have so many 23-25yr olds hitting FA for the first time, and up and coming players get overpaid, then underperform, yet every year the fans of every team, not just ours wants the BIG NAMES, then they under perform.

Jan 24, 2025 at 3:37 AM

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Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by Stanley:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Let's be honest, Lynch has wasted so much money on his big free-agent moves in his career with us. Overall pathetic to be honest.

Relative to who?

Yeah as if we're the only team to strike out when it comes to big FA deals, the majority, I'd say 8/10 maybe 9/10 of those players never get to see that full value, it's a crapshoot in free agency just like the draft, especially when you have so many 23-25yr olds hitting FA for the first time, and up and coming players get overpaid, then underperform, yet every year the fans of every team, not just ours wants the BIG NAMES, then they under perform.

I think for our team it's disappointing how much they've focused on the d line, but have almost always missed and or underperformed. It caught up to them.

Mar 5, 2025 at 7:26 PM

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Teams were notified that #49ers DT Javon Hargrave -- who will be a post-June-1 release by the team -- is healthy coming off his tricep injury, per sources. He will be available to sign March 12, start of the new league year.
— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) March 5, 2025

Mar 6, 2025 at 10:35 AM

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What a mess of a signing that was. Huge deal. Got nothing in return. Just injuries, under performing, bad scheme fit and now to be released. Cap hit spread over a few years. This team is a mess in some ways.

[ Edited by SanDiego49er on Mar 6, 2025 at 10:35 AM ]

Mar 6, 2025 at 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
What a mess of a signing that was. Huge deal. Got nothing in return. Just injuries, under performing, bad scheme fit and now to be released. Cap hit spread over a few years. This team is a mess in some ways.

Yes. Damn, why didn't they look in that magic glass?

Mar 6, 2025 at 10:39 AM

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I appreciate that they took a big swing in adding him in 2023. Shame it didn't quite work out and didn't result in a championship, but definitely time to move on and get younger and less expensive at DT.

Mar 6, 2025 at 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
What a mess of a signing that was. Huge deal. Got nothing in return. Just injuries, under performing, bad scheme fit and now to be released. Cap hit spread over a few years. This team is a mess in some ways.

What sucks about this one is it was pretty obviously a bad signing by from the very beginning. An aging DT that is very good at pass rushing and struggles in run D signed to a very large contract.

Lynch played this extremely risky and desperate thinking he was one of the final pieces needed.

Mar 6, 2025 at 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by bmvanthiel:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
What a mess of a signing that was. Huge deal. Got nothing in return. Just injuries, under performing, bad scheme fit and now to be released. Cap hit spread over a few years. This team is a mess in some ways.

What sucks about this one is it was pretty obviously a bad signing by from the very beginning. An aging DT that is very good at pass rushing and struggles in run D signed to a very large contract.

Lynch played this extremely risky and desperate thinking he was one of the final pieces needed.

I mean, they lost the SB in OT. Lynch wasn't incorrect that they were right on the doorstep and could push through with just a little more of an edge. Hargrave didn't turn out to be that edge but the instinct was principally correct, just like it was when they traded for Sanders in 2019.

Mar 6, 2025 at 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
What a mess of a signing that was. Huge deal. Got nothing in return. Just injuries, under performing, bad scheme fit and now to be released. Cap hit spread over a few years. This team is a mess in some ways.

Yes. Damn, why didn't they look in that magic glass?

I doubt there was anyone who questioned this move when it was made. He was a terrific player who just didn't work out primarily because of injuries.

Mar 6, 2025 at 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
What a mess of a signing that was. Huge deal. Got nothing in return. Just injuries, under performing, bad scheme fit and now to be released. Cap hit spread over a few years. This team is a mess in some ways.

Yes. Damn, why didn't they look in that magic glass?
I doubt there was anyone who questioned this move when it was made. He was a terrific player who just didn't work out primarily because of injuries.

Yep. Comes under the heading of "can't win them all".

Mar 6, 2025 at 10:50 AM

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Gravedigger and dead money

Mar 6, 2025 at 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
What a mess of a signing that was. Huge deal. Got nothing in return. Just injuries, under performing, bad scheme fit and now to be released. Cap hit spread over a few years. This team is a mess in some ways.

They got 7 sacks, a pro bowl nod and a SB appearance where he had a sack and a FF in the 1st year of his contract.

Mar 6, 2025 at 11:11 AM

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Thoughts Faithful? pic.twitter.com/q7NxKQzmvI
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I thought he was supposed to be a post June 1st cut.

Mar 6, 2025 at 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by braap49er:

Thoughts Faithful? pic.twitter.com/q7NxKQzmvI
— KNBR (@KNBR) March 6, 2025

I thought he was supposed to be a post June 1st cut.

He is