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  • pdc20
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The age is a concern but he played his best football the last two seasons. He´s in the prime of his career. Besides the goal is to win the Superbowl next year right? He´s only 30 years old.
Ballsy move by John and Kyle but damn that may be the one piece that will make the difference next January. Hargrave and Armstead could be an unstoppable combo inside rushing the passer.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Nice. Little nervous about the age though.

Where did we get the dough? This puts us way over doesn't it? even without jimmy.

I was a little nervous about the age too but he doesn't have a ton of snaps for his age. Justin Smith was on the older end when we brought him in, he had arguably the best phase of his career after turning 30 with us. Let's hope same goes for Hargrave.

Power size and strength players also age better than speed/agility players
I'm so happy to not have to worry about pad levels.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I'm so happy to not have to worry about pad levels.

That natural 6'1" pad level. Just how I like my IDL built.

[ Edited by Heroism on Mar 13, 2023 at 12:53 PM ]
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I'm so happy to not have to worry about pad levels.

That natural 6'1" pad level. Just how I like my IDL built.


6'6" looks great coming off the bus. But yeah give me that John Randle mold DT.
  • Shifty
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HUGE Signing by the 49ers to start Free Agency! My thoughts, Reactions and Grade on the move!

Originally posted by Shifty:
HUGE Signing by the 49ers to start Free Agency! My thoughts, Reactions and Grade on the move!


faster than T Hill on these my man
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I'm so happy to not have to worry about pad levels.

That natural 6'1" pad level. Just how I like my IDL built.


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heOriginally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Nice. Little nervous about the age though.

Where did we get the dough? This puts us way over doesn't it? even without jimmy.

A number of people have asked how we have the money.
--- As I understand it, we don't have to be compliant right NOW.
--- We can manage things so we have more cash this year by restructuring some of our contracts.
--- It helps to have 2 QB's on rookie contracts.
--- I assume Paraag will do his magic so that cap hits are managed well and everyone's big hits aren't hitting at the same time.:
--------- Year 1 of Hargrave's Deal: CMC cap hit is only $12M, Deebo is only $9M
--------- Year 2: Deebo balloons to $28M, but Lance is only at $10M.
--------- Year 3: Arik Armstead and Mooney Ward's hits are only $6M and $4.8M respectively.
--------- Year 4: Deebo and Kittle's hits are only $8M and $2M respectively.
--------- Trent Williams, Fred Warner are gonna be big hits for the next couple years though. The structure of Nick Bosa's potential extension will be key, and they're gonna have to make a decision on whether they can afford both Deebo AND Aiyuk.
Originally posted by pdc20:
The age is a concern but he played his best football the last two seasons. He´s in the prime of his career. Besides the goal is to win the Superbowl next year right? He´s only 30 years old.
Ballsy move by John and Kyle but damn that may be the one piece that will make the difference next January. Hargrave and Armstead could be an unstoppable combo inside rushing the passer.

I'd saying age is an issue if he was a RB. Dude is a s**t brick house. Missed like 3 games in his career.

I think we're gonna see a lot more out of AA this upcoming year.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Mar 13, 2023 at 1:06 PM ]
Originally posted by Wubbie:
heOriginally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Nice. Little nervous about the age though.

Where did we get the dough? This puts us way over doesn't it? even without jimmy.

A number of people have asked how we have the money.
--- As I understand it, we don't have to be compliant right NOW.
--- We can manage things so we have more cash this year by restructuring some of our contracts.
--- It helps to have 2 QB's on rookie contracts.
--- I assume Paraag will do his magic so that cap hits are managed well and everyone's big hits aren't hitting at the same time.:
--------- Year 1 of Hargrave's Deal: CMC cap hit is only $12M, Deebo is only $9M
--------- Year 2: Deebo balloons to $28M, but Lance is only at $10M.
--------- Year 3: Arik Armstead and Mooney Ward's hits are only $6M and $4.8M respectively.
--------- Year 4: Deebo and Kittle's hits are only $8M and $2M respectively.
--------- Trent Williams, Fred Warner are gonna be big hits for the next couple years though. The structure of Nick Bosa's potential extension will be key, and they're gonna have to make a decision on whether they can afford both Deebo AND Aiyuk.

Those low cap hits for AA, Deebo, Ward are all void years. They're currently scheduled to be free agents those years but we're still taking those cap hits.

They'll need to be re-signed or replaced.
Who?
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I'd saying age is an issue if he was a RB. Dude is a s**t brick house. Missed like 3 games in his career.

I think we're gonna see a lot more out of AA this upcoming year.

Absolutely; AA is the biggest beneficiary in this
I like it, but now you're paying armstead bosa and Hargrave? Thays a lot of money on the dline when the. Oline needs so much help.

But we got mckivitz, Brunskil and no center, so that's decent.
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