49ers sign DT Javon Hargrave

Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Who?

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:

Oh wow!! Bosa, javon, and Erik?!! Damm https://t.co/F9tsAyOU3r

— Micah Parsons (@MicahhParsons11) March 13, 2023

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

heOriginally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

One more thing the #49ers loved about DT Javon Hargrave: Durability.

He's missed a total of 3 games in 7 years. Only two of those injury-related.

Hard to find FAs who are still producing at a high level and have no injury questions. Hargrave checks both, hence the price.

— Nick Wagoner (@nwagoner) March 13, 2023

Nice. Little nervous about the age though.

Where did we get the dough? This puts us way over doesn't it? even without jimmy.

A number of people have asked how we have the money.
--- As I understand it, we don't have to be compliant right NOW.
--- We can manage things so we have more cash this year by restructuring some of our contracts.
--- It helps to have 2 QB's on rookie contracts.
--- I assume Paraag will do his magic so that cap hits are managed well and everyone's big hits aren't hitting at the same time.:
--------- Year 1 of Hargrave's Deal: CMC cap hit is only $12M, Deebo is only $9M
--------- Year 2: Deebo balloons to $28M, but Lance is only at $10M.
--------- Year 3: Arik Armstead and Mooney Ward's hits are only $6M and $4.8M respectively.
--------- Year 4: Deebo and Kittle's hits are only $8M and $2M respectively.
--------- Trent Williams, Fred Warner are gonna be big hits for the next couple years though. The structure of Nick Bosa's potential extension will be key, and they're gonna have to make a decision on whether they can afford both Deebo AND Aiyuk.

Those low cap hits for AA, Deebo, Ward are all void years. They're currently scheduled to be free agents those years but we're still taking those cap hits.

They'll need to be re-signed or replaced.

Originally posted by thl408:
I was searching for a scouting report on his run defense and found this breakdown article. Lots of stuff mentioned. He did not grade out well versus the run.
https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2023/2/22/23606220/eagles-all-22-film-review-javon-hargrave-nfl-free-agency-contract-greatly-missed-if-hes-not-back

Originally posted by thl408:
I was searching for a scouting report on his run defense and found this breakdown article. Lots of stuff mentioned. He did not grade out well versus the run.
https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2023/2/22/23606220/eagles-all-22-film-review-javon-hargrave-nfl-free-agency-contract-greatly-missed-if-hes-not-back

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by thl408:
I was searching for a scouting report on his run defense and found this breakdown article. Lots of stuff mentioned. He did not grade out well versus the run.
https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2023/2/22/23606220/eagles-all-22-film-review-javon-hargrave-nfl-free-agency-contract-greatly-missed-if-hes-not-back

I just heard an interview on KNBR with an Eagles beat reporter and he said his run grades are misleading because he was never really asked to play the run. He's apparently a "good" run defender but he didn't play a lot of 1st downs. Was primarily used on 2nd and 3rd down to rush the passer.

Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Who?

Originally posted by thl408:
I was searching for a scouting report on his run defense and found this breakdown article. Lots of stuff mentioned. He did not grade out well versus the run.
https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2023/2/22/23606220/eagles-all-22-film-review-javon-hargrave-nfl-free-agency-contract-greatly-missed-if-hes-not-back

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I like it, but now you're paying armstead bosa and Hargrave? Thays a lot of money on the dline when the. Oline needs so much help.

But we got mckivitz, Brunskil and no center, so that's decent.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I like it, but now you're paying armstead bosa and Hargrave? Thays a lot of money on the dline when the. Oline needs so much help.

But we got mckivitz, Brunskil and no center, so that's decent.

Hahahahaha only you would have a fit over this

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

heOriginally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

One more thing the #49ers loved about DT Javon Hargrave: Durability.

He's missed a total of 3 games in 7 years. Only two of those injury-related.

Hard to find FAs who are still producing at a high level and have no injury questions. Hargrave checks both, hence the price.

— Nick Wagoner (@nwagoner) March 13, 2023

Nice. Little nervous about the age though.

Where did we get the dough? This puts us way over doesn't it? even without jimmy.

A number of people have asked how we have the money.
--- As I understand it, we don't have to be compliant right NOW.
--- We can manage things so we have more cash this year by restructuring some of our contracts.
--- It helps to have 2 QB's on rookie contracts.
--- I assume Paraag will do his magic so that cap hits are managed well and everyone's big hits aren't hitting at the same time.:
--------- Year 1 of Hargrave's Deal: CMC cap hit is only $12M, Deebo is only $9M
--------- Year 2: Deebo balloons to $28M, but Lance is only at $10M.
--------- Year 3: Arik Armstead and Mooney Ward's hits are only $6M and $4.8M respectively.
--------- Year 4: Deebo and Kittle's hits are only $8M and $2M respectively.
--------- Trent Williams, Fred Warner are gonna be big hits for the next couple years though. The structure of Nick Bosa's potential extension will be key, and they're gonna have to make a decision on whether they can afford both Deebo AND Aiyuk.

Those low cap hits for AA, Deebo, Ward are all void years. They're currently scheduled to be free agents those years but we're still taking those cap hits.

They'll need to be re-signed or replaced.

Yeah, I imagine when the time comes, we'll let AA walk, unless he chooses a team friendly deal. Doubt it, because he'd be on the tail-end of his career and it would be last opportunity to cash in. But interesting to think about.
Deebo and Mooney will test the market, pretty sure we'll let those guys go.

So the question of re-signing Aiyuk is an interesting one. But yeah, imperative that we continue to draft well.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by thl408:
I was searching for a scouting report on his run defense and found this breakdown article. Lots of stuff mentioned. He did not grade out well versus the run.
https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2023/2/22/23606220/eagles-all-22-film-review-javon-hargrave-nfl-free-agency-contract-greatly-missed-if-hes-not-back

He's not a great run stopper which is why I suspect they'll bring in more of a traditional NT to utilize on run downs either via draft or a lesser FA.

He did grade out a lot better there though with the Steelers so how he was used plays a big role in it.