49ers sign DT Javon Hargrave | Page 96

Jan 5, 2025 at 12:37 PM

GoreGoreGore
10HourChicken
Posts: 59,470

Originally posted by mayo49:
Y

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
What a mistake. Get him off the team.

Hargave was a FA, not a draft pick, correct?

Do you pay attention at all to this team? What's up with these obvious questions that you constantly ask mao.

So rude. Can't you just answer the question? Also, what round did we draft De'Vontre Campbell….just another whiff SMH.

Gore, what are you talking about? You, got me confused with someone one else. I never ask obvious questions and, if I did - what are you stalking me?

Lol. Not confused at all. Also it's a public forum, your posts are visible to everyone, no stalking needed.
+ Show all quotes
Gore, I haven't posted here in five years, what obvious questions are you talking about?

I think you're confused lol. You were definitely here at least for Purdy's rookie season, it hasn't been 5 years. All good, wb

Yeah, I thinks it's been 3 years. But, your crazy, brother. I don't ask questions just to ask them. I really forgot if Hargrove was a pick or free agent.

*You're

Jan 5, 2025 at 12:39 PM

#1427

mayo49
Veteran
Posts: 65,216

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Y

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
What a mistake. Get him off the team.

Hargave was a FA, not a draft pick, correct?

Do you pay attention at all to this team? What's up with these obvious questions that you constantly ask mao.

So rude. Can't you just answer the question? Also, what round did we draft De'Vontre Campbell….just another whiff SMH.

Gore, what are you talking about? You, got me confused with someone one else. I never ask obvious questions and, if I did - what are you stalking me?

Lol. Not confused at all. Also it's a public forum, your posts are visible to everyone, no stalking needed.

Gore, I haven't posted here in five years, what obvious questions are you talking about?
+ Show all quotes
I think you're confused lol. You were definitely here at least for Purdy's rookie season, it hasn't been 5 years. All good, wb

Yeah, I thinks it's been 3 years. But, your crazy, brother. I don't ask questions just to ask them. I really forgot if Hargrove was a pick or free agent.

*You're

Jan 8, 2025 at 12:38 PM

#1428

jersey49er
Veteran
Posts: 7,547

This question might've been answered, but how much cap is saved when he is cut June 1 ?

Jan 8, 2025 at 12:56 PM

#1429

AB81Rules
Hall of Fame
Posts: 33,285

Originally posted by jersey49er:
This question might've been answered, but how much cap is saved when he is cut June 1 ?

They already redid his 2025 year, saves $17.8M, if he's healthy when the release is official, they save that $2.1M base salary, plus his per game roster bonus & workout bonus.

Jan 8, 2025 at 1:05 PM

#1430

49AllTheTime
Veteran
Posts: 71,606

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Post 6/1 release

2025 Dead Cap: $7,335,000
2026 Dead Cap: $17,405,000
2025 Savings: $2,970,000

i don't see him being cut, unless he restructures again

bump

Jan 8, 2025 at 1:22 PM

#1431

SteveWallacesHelmet
Veteran
Posts: 23,210

Originally posted by mayo49:
Y

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
What a mistake. Get him off the team.

Hargave was a FA, not a draft pick, correct?

Do you pay attention at all to this team? What's up with these obvious questions that you constantly ask mao.

So rude. Can't you just answer the question? Also, what round did we draft De'Vontre Campbell….just another whiff SMH.

Gore, what are you talking about? You, got me confused with someone one else. I never ask obvious questions and, if I did - what are you stalking me?

Lol. Not confused at all. Also it's a public forum, your posts are visible to everyone, no stalking needed.
+ Show all quotes
Gore, I haven't posted here in five years, what obvious questions are you talking about?

I think you're confused lol. You were definitely here at least for Purdy's rookie season, it hasn't been 5 years. All good, wb

Yeah, I thinks it's been 3 years. But, your crazy, brother. I don't ask questions just to ask them. I really forgot if Hargrove was a pick or free agent.

Not a chance have you been gone for 3 years.

Jan 8, 2025 at 1:23 PM

#1432

Predator85
Veteran
Posts: 4,661

Bust of a signing, should of been a one year deal

Jan 8, 2025 at 1:27 PM

#1433

LifelongNiner
Veteran
Posts: 23,660

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/49ers-restructure-javon-hargrave-s-contract-likely-to-release-him-01jerptyh2ph

don't know how accurate this is from the best sports writer we know.

Calling Hargrave a horrible signing from the start is just ignorance. Which is roughly what I would expect.

Cohn is a joke...His opinions are like some posters that lack reality. Hargrave is better than anyone we can get for 7 Mil we save by cutting him.

I agree. I just don't see what we gain in savings. Proven pass rusher that gave us 7.5 sacks in a down year (2023). Use him appropriately and get a bigger body next to him and I could see 9-12 sacks. It's all about over now however.

Jan 8, 2025 at 1:54 PM

#1434

RonnieLott
Member
Posts: 1,870

Yes Hargrave is an example of how the 49ers dont maximise the potential of their players.

We should have got a big body next to him and let him so his thing which is to get after the quarterback, instead we tried to change him into a run stuffer.

And now he is gone.

Hargrave will go somewhere else on less money and get 12 sacks next year.

That is his specialty.

Jan 8, 2025 at 2:07 PM

#1435

Hoovtrain
Veteran
Posts: 32,760

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by jersey49er:
This question might've been answered, but how much cap is saved when he is cut June 1 ?

They already redid his 2025 year, saves $17.8M, if he's healthy when the release is official, they save that $2.1M base salary, plus his per game roster bonus & workout bonus.

So what is the point of releasing him post June 1?

Jan 8, 2025 at 2:10 PM

#1436

49AllTheTime
Veteran
Posts: 71,606

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by jersey49er:
This question might've been answered, but how much cap is saved when he is cut June 1 ?

They already redid his 2025 year, saves $17.8M, if he's healthy when the release is official, they save that $2.1M base salary, plus his per game roster bonus & workout bonus.

So what is the point of releasing him post June 1?

to save 2m in 2025 but get hit for 17m dead cap in 2026

Jan 8, 2025 at 2:11 PM

#1437

OnTheClock
Hall of Fame
Posts: 37,666

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Yes Hargrave is an example of how the 49ers dont maximise the potential of their players.

We should have got a big body next to him and let him so his thing which is to get after the quarterback, instead we tried to change him into a run stuffer.

And now he is gone.

Hargrave will go somewhere else on less money and get 12 sacks next year.

That is his specialty.

His cap number balloons to a massive level the year after so it's better to cut now. Collins is a cheaper version of Hargrave. His age is a problem and we are trying to put together the next strong core group. Just doesn't fit the plans.

This signals an obvious move to add serious beef in the middle in the draft this year.

Jan 8, 2025 at 2:12 PM

#1438

Hoovtrain
Veteran
Posts: 32,760

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by jersey49er:
This question might've been answered, but how much cap is saved when he is cut June 1 ?
+ Show all quotes
They already redid his 2025 year, saves $17.8M, if he's healthy when the release is official, they save that $2.1M base salary, plus his per game roster bonus & workout bonus.

So what is the point of releasing him post June 1?
to save 2m in 2025 but get hit for 17m dead cap in 2026

Still don't get it. Save 2mil in cap space doesn't seem worth it. Isn't the dead cap set with the restructure?

[ Edited by Hoovtrain on Jan 8, 2025 at 2:13 PM ]

Jan 8, 2025 at 2:13 PM

#1439

lamontb
Veteran
Posts: 31,713

Just a bad signing to pay HArgrave so much money then we didn't use him correctly. He's not a 4 down guy. Just have to take the hit and move on. It is what it is.

Jan 8, 2025 at 2:15 PM

#1440

Rice-a-Ronnie
Veteran
Posts: 273

To be fair his get-off was pretty impressive. But his run blocking was worse than I expected. Maybe it's more glaring being in the Wide9.