The Ultra-Perennial 49ers 53 Man Roster 2023 :)

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by Nastastical:
I wonder why so many believe it's a lock Ray-Ray makes the roster and we carry 6 WR's? If Gray or Bell look good, then there is a good chance that the only thing keeping Ray-Ray safe is his return ability, but then we could just as easily keep 6 CB's and D'Shawn Jamison wins the returner job. Either way, I don't think it's a guarantee that both Ray-Ray and Gray make it, especially if Bell outplays both. This might open a spot for a guy like Colletto or allows the team to stack the DL.

I have Ray-Ray as a lock because of his return ability, he's a good WR, and he has his entire deal GTD except $135K, as for Gray, he proved it on STs as a Gunner, I don't see Gray clearing waivers, nor do I see Bell clearing waivers.

Isn't his dead cap pretty manageable though? I don't think it's a lock he makes it if Bell and Gray outplay him. With this loaded roster, good players will be cut/traded, so Ray-Ray will have to offer more than just return ability, especially now with the new rule changes for kickoffs. Both Bell and Gray can contribute on special teams, so Ray-Ray isn't safe imo.

Let's submit each contestant's version of the 53 after Mini Camp and before Training Camp. We'll use the last day prior to when Training Camp starts. A lot will happen over that period of time.

We will then submit a second version after training Camp as a separate contest and possible tie breaker for the 1st version.

Originally posted by 60sFan:
Let's submit each contestant's version of the 53 after Mini Camp and before Training Camp. We'll use the last day prior to when Training Camp starts. A lot will happen over that period of time.

We will then submit a second version after training Camp as a separate contest and possible tie breaker for the 1st version.

Love it!

Offensive Personnel: --- 25
QB: Brock Purdy; Trey Lance & Sam Darnold
RB: Christian McCaffrey; Elijah Mitchell & Jordan Mason
FB: Kyle Juszczyk
TE: George Kittle; Cameron Latu & Brayden Willis
XWR: Brandon Aiyuk; Danny Gray
SWR: Jauan Jennings; Ray-Ray McCloud
ZWR/F: Deebo Samuel; Ronnie Bell
LT: Trent Williams; Leroy Watson
LG: Aaron Banks; Nick Zakelj
C: Jake Brendel
RG: Spencer Burford; Jon Feliciano
RT: Colton McKivitz; Matt Pryor

Defensive Personnel: --- 25
RW9: Nick Bosa; Clelin Ferrell
3T: Javon Hargrave; Kevin Givens & Kalia Davis
2i: Arik Armstead; Javon Kinlaw
LW9: Drake Jackson; Kerry Hyder & Robert Beal Jr.
SAM: Dee Winters; Marcelino McCrary-Ball
MIKE: Fred Warner; Oren Burks
WILL: Dre Greenlaw
RCB: Charvarius Ward; Samuel Womack III
SCB: Isaiah Oliver; Deommodore Lenoir
LCB: Darell Luter Jr.
FS: Tashaun Gipson; Ji'Ayir Brown
SS: Talanoa Hufanga; Miles Hartsfield & George Odum

Special Teams: --- 3
LS: Taybor Pepper
PK: Jake Moody
P: Mitch Wishnowsky

Notes:
Kyle goes back to 3 RB's as Ty Davis-Price, Khalan Laborn and Ronald Awatt should all make it safely to the PS and can be called up with any injuries. Danny Gray has to show out to save his roster spot; one that could go towards a 4th RB, 10th OL or 6th CB/LB.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Offensive Personnel: --- 25
QB: Brock Purdy; Trey Lance & Sam Darnold
RB: Christian McCaffrey; Elijah Mitchell & Jordan Mason
FB: Kyle Juszczyk
TE: George Kittle; Cameron Latu & Brayden Willis
XWR: Brandon Aiyuk; Danny Gray
SWR: Jauan Jennings; Ray-Ray McCloud
ZWR/F: Deebo Samuel; Ronnie Bell
LT: Trent Williams; Leroy Watson
LG: Aaron Banks; Nick Zakelj
C: Jake Brendel
RG: Spencer Burford; Jon Feliciano
RT: Colton McKivitz; Matt Pryor

Defensive Personnel: --- 25
RW9: Nick Bosa; Clelin Ferrell
3T: Javon Hargrave; Kevin Givens & Kalia Davis
2i: Arik Armstead; Javon Kinlaw
LW9: Drake Jackson; Kerry Hyder & Robert Beal Jr.
SAM: Dee Winters; Marcelino McCrary-Ball
MIKE: Fred Warner; Oren Burks
WILL: Dre Greenlaw
RCB: Charvarius Ward; Samuel Womack III
SCB: Isaiah Oliver; Deommodore Lenoir
LCB: Darell Luter Jr.
FS: Tashaun Gipson; Ji'Ayir Brown
SS: Talanoa Hufanga; Miles Hartsfield & George Odum

Special Teams: --- 3
LS: Taybor Pepper
PK: Jake Moody
P: Mitch Wishnowsky

Notes:
Kyle goes back to 3 RB's as Ty Davis-Price, Khalan Laborn and Ronald Awatt should all make it safely to the PS and can be called up with any injuries. Danny Gray has to show out to save his roster spot; one that could go towards a 4th RB, 10th OL or 6th CB/LB.

Very very close to mine.

Only differences would be TDP as a 4th RB no Watson, Moore over Pryor, Bryant over Hyder, & Jalen Graham over McCrary-Ball

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Very very close to mine.

Only differences would be TDP as a 4th RB no Watson, Moore over Pryor, Bryant over Hyder, & Jalen Graham over McCrary-Ball

Nice! I have zero issue with any of the differences too!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Very very close to mine.

Only differences would be TDP as a 4th RB no Watson, Moore over Pryor, Bryant over Hyder, & Jalen Graham over McCrary-Ball

Nice! I have zero issue with any of the differences too!

I have no real complaints with yours either, I love Hyder, I'm just thinking Bryant has $550K of $940K GTD, none for Hyder. I prefer to keep 9 OL, but we'll have vets on the PS if we keep 8. I'm not sold on either Moore or Pryor, yet, I need to see more this preseason. TDP needs to really bust his ass off to make the team. Graham vs McCrary-Ball could go either way, I could see DFF making it, he has $1.25M of $1.825M GTD, I'd personally would like to see them try to trade DFF, Dwelley, Ambry, & Kinlaw, save the GTD money in DFF, Dwelley, & Kinlaw's deals.

Offensive Personnel: --- 24

QB: Brock Purdy; Trey Lance & Sam Darnold
RB: Christian McCaffrey; Elijah Mitchell & Jordan Mason, Khalan Laborn
FB: Kyle Juszczyk
TE: George Kittle; Cameron Latu & Brayden Willis
XWR: Brandon Aiyuk; Jahcour Pearson
SWR: Jauan Jennings;
ZWR/F: Deebo Samuel; Ronnie Bell
LT: Trent Williams;
LG: Aaron Banks; Ilm Manning
C: Jake Brendel
RG: Spencer Burford; Jon Feliciano
RT: Colton McKivitz; Matt Pryor

Defensive Personnel: --- 26
RW9: Nick Bosa; Clelin Ferrell*
3T: Javon Hargrave; Kevin Givens & Kalia Davis
2i: Arik Armstead; Javon Kinlaw
LW9: Drake Jackson; Austin Bryant*, Spencer Waege
SAM: Marcelino McCrary-Ball, Jalen Graham
MIKE: Fred Warner; Oren Burks
WILL: Dre Greenlaw
RCB: Charvarius Ward; Samuel Womack III
SCB: Isaiah Oliver; Deommodore Lenoir
LCB: Darell Luter Jr., D'Shawn Jamison
FS: Tashaun Gipson; Ji'Ayir Brown
SS: Talanoa Hufanga; Qwuantrezz Knight, George Odum

Special Teams: --- 3
LS: Taybor Pepper
PK: Jake Moody
P: Mitch Wishnowsky

Here's my prediction before the season starts.

I'm not keeping Ray Ray because two different return guys made my 53, and because I think Ronnie Bell is so polished that we don't need more pure receiving, and Pearson can return and be utilized like Deebo somewhat.

I think we will sign or trade for another DE at some point, which is why I put an asterisk next to Ferrell and Bryant . I'm really not sold on either one of them and expect one will be cut if we add another pass rusher.

I also choose Ilm Manning as the 8th offensive lineman because he's the only young OL who could play multiple positions IIRC. Unless Poe can be relied upon as a backup center, which then changes my picks to Poe and Fisher.

I'm sure I'll get some flack for some of my predictions. But its early.

One guy I am actually really hyped on here is Ferrell

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Offensive Personnel: --- 24

QB: Brock Purdy; Trey Lance & Sam Darnold
RB: Christian McCaffrey; Elijah Mitchell & Jordan Mason, Khalan Laborn
FB: Kyle Juszczyk
TE: George Kittle; Cameron Latu & Brayden Willis
XWR: Brandon Aiyuk; Jahcour Pearson
SWR: Jauan Jennings;
ZWR/F: Deebo Samuel; Ronnie Bell
LT: Trent Williams;
LG: Aaron Banks; Ilm Manning
C: Jake Brendel
RG: Spencer Burford; Jon Feliciano
RT: Colton McKivitz; Matt Pryor

Defensive Personnel: --- 26
RW9: Nick Bosa; Clelin Ferrell*
3T: Javon Hargrave; Kevin Givens & Kalia Davis
2i: Arik Armstead; Javon Kinlaw
LW9: Drake Jackson; Austin Bryant*, Spencer Waege
SAM: Marcelino McCrary-Ball, Jalen Graham
MIKE: Fred Warner; Oren Burks
WILL: Dre Greenlaw
RCB: Charvarius Ward; Samuel Womack III
SCB: Isaiah Oliver; Deommodore Lenoir
LCB: Darell Luter Jr., D'Shawn Jamison
FS: Tashaun Gipson; Ji'Ayir Brown
SS: Talanoa Hufanga; Qwuantrezz Knight, George Odum

Special Teams: --- 3
LS: Taybor Pepper
PK: Jake Moody
P: Mitch Wishnowsky

Here's my prediction before the season starts.

I'm not keeping Ray Ray because two different return guys made my 53, and because I think Ronnie Bell is so polished that we don't need more pure receiving, and Pearson can return and be utilized like Deebo somewhat.

I think we will sign or trade for another DE at some point, which is why I put an asterisk next to Ferrell and Bryant . I'm really not sold on either one of them and expect one will be cut if we add another pass rusher.

I also choose Ilm Manning as the 8th offensive lineman because he's the only young OL who could play multiple positions IIRC. Unless Poe can be relied upon as a backup center, which then changes my picks to Poe and Fisher.

I'm sure I'll get some flack for some of my predictions. But its early.

Love all your underdog picks: Khalan Laborn, Jahcour Pearson, Ilm Manning, Spencer Waege, Jalen Graham, D'Shawn Jamison & Qwuantrezz Knight.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Offensive Personnel: --- 24

QB: Brock Purdy; Trey Lance & Sam Darnold
RB: Christian McCaffrey; Elijah Mitchell & Jordan Mason, Khalan Laborn
FB: Kyle Juszczyk
TE: George Kittle; Cameron Latu & Brayden Willis
XWR: Brandon Aiyuk; Jahcour Pearson
SWR: Jauan Jennings;
ZWR/F: Deebo Samuel; Ronnie Bell
LT: Trent Williams;
LG: Aaron Banks; Ilm Manning
C: Jake Brendel
RG: Spencer Burford; Jon Feliciano
RT: Colton McKivitz; Matt Pryor

Defensive Personnel: --- 26
RW9: Nick Bosa; Clelin Ferrell*
3T: Javon Hargrave; Kevin Givens & Kalia Davis
2i: Arik Armstead; Javon Kinlaw
LW9: Drake Jackson; Austin Bryant*, Spencer Waege
SAM: Marcelino McCrary-Ball, Jalen Graham
MIKE: Fred Warner; Oren Burks
WILL: Dre Greenlaw
RCB: Charvarius Ward; Samuel Womack III
SCB: Isaiah Oliver; Deommodore Lenoir
LCB: Darell Luter Jr., D'Shawn Jamison
FS: Tashaun Gipson; Ji'Ayir Brown
SS: Talanoa Hufanga; Qwuantrezz Knight, George Odum

Special Teams: --- 3
LS: Taybor Pepper
PK: Jake Moody
P: Mitch Wishnowsky

Here's my prediction before the season starts.

I'm not keeping Ray Ray because two different return guys made my 53, and because I think Ronnie Bell is so polished that we don't need more pure receiving, and Pearson can return and be utilized like Deebo somewhat.

I think we will sign or trade for another DE at some point, which is why I put an asterisk next to Ferrell and Bryant . I'm really not sold on either one of them and expect one will be cut if we add another pass rusher.

I also choose Ilm Manning as the 8th offensive lineman because he's the only young OL who could play multiple positions IIRC. Unless Poe can be relied upon as a backup center, which then changes my picks to Poe and Fisher.

I'm sure I'll get some flack for some of my predictions. But its early.

I can see Laborn over TDP

Pearson isn't even signed with us, he hasn't signed anywhere that I know of, & McCloud is making it IMO, Same with Gray, I have 6 WRs

Of the OL, Zakelj is most likely to make it, he has versatility, C/G/T, I can't see a UDFA making it, if any then Fisher who is a RT, but projects inside.

Again can't see a UDFA beating out a draft pick, not when they took Beal in the 5th.

I have no issues with Graham, I like Winters too.

I think Jamison is a long shot to make it, he won't be active if he does.

Knight is a CB to me, and Hartsfield was brought in by Wilks, he knows Wilks, and what he wants Wilks to do, I have Hartsfield making it.

The rest I agree with, I can see Pryor over Moore.

I agree with the above. The guys who have been here but at most risk of missing the cut this season:

- Ross Dwelley
- Charlie Woerner
- Ambry Thomas
- Tyrion Davis-Price

I think Pearson is going to have a Hawk tryout.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Very very close to mine.

Only differences would be TDP as a 4th RB no Watson, Moore over Pryor, Bryant over Hyder, & Jalen Graham over McCrary-Ball

Nice! I have zero issue with any of the differences too!

I have no real complaints with yours either, I love Hyder, I'm just thinking Bryant has $550K of $940K GTD, none for Hyder. I prefer to keep 9 OL, but we'll have vets on the PS if we keep 8. I'm not sold on either Moore or Pryor, yet, I need to see more this preseason. TDP needs to really bust his ass off to make the team. Graham vs McCrary-Ball could go either way, I could see DFF making it, he has $1.25M of $1.825M GTD, I'd personally would like to see them try to trade DFF, Dwelley, Ambry, & Kinlaw, save the GTD money in DFF, Dwelley, & Kinlaw's deals.

Same. I had Bryant ahead of Hyder too until I realized how small Bryant is and he has an injury history. Same with the others. I need to see something with all of those guys first. And for sure...if you can get anything, go for it.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Offensive Personnel: --- 24

QB: Brock Purdy; Trey Lance & Sam Darnold
RB: Christian McCaffrey; Elijah Mitchell & Jordan Mason, Khalan Laborn
FB: Kyle Juszczyk
TE: George Kittle; Cameron Latu & Brayden Willis
XWR: Brandon Aiyuk; Jahcour Pearson
SWR: Jauan Jennings;
ZWR/F: Deebo Samuel; Ronnie Bell
LT: Trent Williams;
LG: Aaron Banks; Ilm Manning
C: Jake Brendel
RG: Spencer Burford; Jon Feliciano
RT: Colton McKivitz; Matt Pryor

Defensive Personnel: --- 26
RW9: Nick Bosa; Clelin Ferrell*
3T: Javon Hargrave; Kevin Givens & Kalia Davis
2i: Arik Armstead; Javon Kinlaw
LW9: Drake Jackson; Austin Bryant*, Spencer Waege
SAM: Marcelino McCrary-Ball, Jalen Graham
MIKE: Fred Warner; Oren Burks
WILL: Dre Greenlaw
RCB: Charvarius Ward; Samuel Womack III
SCB: Isaiah Oliver; Deommodore Lenoir
LCB: Darell Luter Jr., D'Shawn Jamison
FS: Tashaun Gipson; Ji'Ayir Brown
SS: Talanoa Hufanga; Qwuantrezz Knight, George Odum

Special Teams: --- 3
LS: Taybor Pepper
PK: Jake Moody
P: Mitch Wishnowsky

Here's my prediction before the season starts.

I'm not keeping Ray Ray because two different return guys made my 53, and because I think Ronnie Bell is so polished that we don't need more pure receiving, and Pearson can return and be utilized like Deebo somewhat.

I think we will sign or trade for another DE at some point, which is why I put an asterisk next to Ferrell and Bryant . I'm really not sold on either one of them and expect one will be cut if we add another pass rusher.

I also choose Ilm Manning as the 8th offensive lineman because he's the only young OL who could play multiple positions IIRC. Unless Poe can be relied upon as a backup center, which then changes my picks to Poe and Fisher.

I'm sure I'll get some flack for some of my predictions. But its early.

I can see Laborn over TDP

Pearson isn't even signed with us, he hasn't signed anywhere that I know of, & McCloud is making it IMO, Same with Gray, I have 6 WRs

Of the OL, Zakelj is most likely to make it, he has versatility, C/G/T, I can't see a UDFA making it, if any then Fisher who is a RT, but projects inside.

Again can't see a UDFA beating out a draft pick, not when they took Beal in the 5th.

I have no issues with Graham, I like Winters too.

I think Jamison is a long shot to make it, he won't be active if he does.

Knight is a CB to me, and Hartsfield was brought in by Wilks, he knows Wilks, and what he wants Wilks to do, I have Hartsfield making it.

The rest I agree with, I can see Pryor over Moore.

I think I heard on a podcast Jamison was given the most GTD $. Is that true? He's looked good so far so maybe they really see something in him?