Originally posted by NCommand:
This dude is taking Lenoir's starting CB spot. Wilks loves this dude and his skill set matches exactly what he wants to do outside.
You think so right out of the gate, or later on in the season?
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Darrell Luter Jr-CB-5th Round 2023 Draft
May 3, 2023 at 8:25 PM
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You think so right out of the gate, or later on in the season?
May 4, 2023 at 3:23 AM
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He's a pure press corner in a zone scheme. This is the FO's second attempt at a Brandon Browner/Sherman type of press corner for zone. The first one was Ahkello.
Ceiling is there to displace Lenoir in a year if he shows promise and Lenoir doesn't improve. I doubt he is even challenging Lenoir for starting job to start the year.
Ceiling is there to displace Lenoir in a year if he shows promise and Lenoir doesn't improve. I doubt he is even challenging Lenoir for starting job to start the year.
May 4, 2023 at 5:45 AM
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
This dude is taking Lenoir's starting CB spot. Wilks loves this dude and his skill set matches exactly what he wants to do outside.
You think so right out of the gate, or later on in the season?
Unsure. If I had to guess, sooner the better. In order to run the pressure packages like Wilks wants, he needs press CB's outside. Lenoir has come a long ways and he'll play his ass off. He's just a different style of CB. Nothing against him. Either way it'll be a battle and that's a great thing.
May 4, 2023 at 5:01 PM
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One concern that I do have with him is his tackling technique. He's on the receiving end of his hits more than he should be considering the competition. Needs to get a better base and drive into his target. The good thing is that he doesn't lack contact courage and can easily work on/fix this. Lenior is much better in the run game and I honestly think it will be hard for Luter to take the job this rookie season. Demo was better then Ward at times man, even in the playoffs
May 4, 2023 at 5:07 PM
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Has potential-Wilks baby, we'll see what coach can do with him. Lenoir won't be displaced this year.
May 4, 2023 at 5:12 PM
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
One concern that I do have with him is his tackling technique. He's on the receiving end of his hits more than he should be considering the competition. Needs to get a better base and drive into his target. The good thing is that he doesn't lack contact courage and can easily work on/fix this. Lenior is much better in the run game and I honestly think it will be hard for Luter to take the job this rookie season. Demo was better then Ward at times man, even in the playoffs
And this emphasis in the run game is the reason why Womack has been benched as well as why the staff liked Lenoir Moseley and J Ward (at Nickel) and Kwauan. And why they signed Oliver to man the slot.
May 4, 2023 at 5:32 PM
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Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
One concern that I do have with him is his tackling technique. He's on the receiving end of his hits more than he should be considering the competition. Needs to get a better base and drive into his target. The good thing is that he doesn't lack contact courage and can easily work on/fix this. Lenior is much better in the run game and I honestly think it will be hard for Luter to take the job this rookie season. Demo was better then Ward at times man, even in the playoffs
And this emphasis in the run game is the reason why Womack has been benched as well as why the staff liked Lenoir Moseley and J Ward (at Nickel) and Kwauan. And why they signed Oliver to man the slot.
Precisely
May 4, 2023 at 6:49 PM
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apparently his weakness is vs the run... he may not be strong setting the perimeter and closing it in.... since he is so sticky in press coverage i see him coming in this year being our nickel corner to cover inside receivers
May 4, 2023 at 7:03 PM
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Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
apparently his weakness is vs the run... he may not be strong setting the perimeter and closing it in.... since he is so sticky in press coverage i see him coming in this year being our nickel corner to cover inside receivers
Nah he won't play inside. The slot will belong to Oliver, Womack or Demo
May 4, 2023 at 8:24 PM
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
apparently his weakness is vs the run... he may not be strong setting the perimeter and closing it in.... since he is so sticky in press coverage i see him coming in this year being our nickel corner to cover inside receivers
Nah he won't play inside. The slot will belong to Oliver, Womack or Demo
I think that new UDFA from Texas could win that job.
May 5, 2023 at 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by elguapo:He's my favorite pick. Dude can ball
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
slot DB
Outside
I concur. He's played outside almost his whole career specializing in press man. Glad we got this guy. In 2021 he had the lowest catch % (the 2nd lowest was Sauce Gardner
I think he will make it and possibly this is the end of Ambry Thomas. He's very good in coverage and is fast too (4.4)
May 5, 2023 at 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by Waterbear:I think you and I know who's really taking the job….POE
I think that new UDFA from Texas could win that job.
May 12, 2023 at 3:32 PM
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From Grant's good and not so good from rookie camp. So take for what it's worth
Built like a third-year pro. Frequently lined up in press man coverage and shut down the opposing wide receiver without actually using hands, because bump-and-run coverage is against NFL rules in rookie minicamp. The only time Luter gave up a catch, he slipped on the grass while wide receiver Shae Wyatt ran a dig route. Perhaps Luter needs better cleats.
Built like a third-year pro. Frequently lined up in press man coverage and shut down the opposing wide receiver without actually using hands, because bump-and-run coverage is against NFL rules in rookie minicamp. The only time Luter gave up a catch, he slipped on the grass while wide receiver Shae Wyatt ran a dig route. Perhaps Luter needs better cleats.
May 12, 2023 at 4:06 PM
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Originally posted by Luckycharms:
From Grant's good and not so good from rookie camp. So take for what it's worth
Built like a third-year pro. Frequently lined up in press man coverage and shut down the opposing wide receiver without actually using hands, because bump-and-run coverage is against NFL rules in rookie minicamp. The only time Luter gave up a catch, he slipped on the grass while wide receiver Shae Wyatt ran a dig route. Perhaps Luter needs better cleats.
My man!
May 12, 2023 at 8:41 PM
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Ward has one corner spot. Oliver will be in the slot. Outside corner likely Lenoir. Ambry likely practice squad unless we keep 6. I see Womack and Luter as 4/5