"Look Ma, no hands" WR Ronnie Bell Thread

Originally posted by WildBill:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2YO5an5TXs

Wes Welker, Julian Edleman type, but bigger than them-that's how I see him. Security blanket

Kind of how I see him too, had a good first day sounds like

Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:

Originally posted by WildBill:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2YO5an5TXs

Wes Welker, Julian Edleman type, but bigger than them-that's how I see him. Security blanket

Kind of how I see him too, had a good first day sounds like

if he's impressing everyone, I expect him to find the way to IR (to stay w/the team) since we only gave J1 one year extension.. then maybe, Ray-ray or Speedy Gray will be the one to go N'sync!

He will take JJ's or Ray Rays spot after this year

Originally posted by elguapo:
He will take JJ's or Ray Rays spot after this year

Makes a lot of sense.

Originally posted by lamontb:
yea i'm a michigan fan and I don't see dude making the roster. just a flyer

I was wrong

Originally posted by elguapo:
He will take JJ's or Ray Rays spot after this year

He has a decent chance to take Ray-Ray's spot this season. With the new kickoff rules, can Kyle justify keeping McCloud as a return man, if Bell and Gray prove to be better receivers than him, since both can also contribute on special teams? This roster is loaded, so they'll be some really difficult roster decisions in the upcoming months.

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by elguapo:
He will take JJ's or Ray Rays spot after this year

He has a decent chance to take Ray-Ray's spot this season. With the new kickoff rules, can Kyle justify keeping McCloud as a return man, if Bell and Gray prove to be better receivers than him, since both can also contribute on special teams? This roster is loaded, so they'll be some really difficult roster decisions in the upcoming months.

Excellent call!

The new KO rules create a new dynamic - return specialists have lost SOME of their value.

Especially when another guy w/good speed can do the job and is less of a cap hit.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by the_dynasty:
I don't get the Hines Ward comparison. Hines Ward was a DOG and an incredibly physical, scrappy, smart, even dirty player. Think Draymond Green of the Wide Receivers. He was physical and broke many tackles, was a blocking nightmare and got into many a CB head with physicality borderline dirty blocks and all. He was also a lot bigger than Ronnie Bell. Bell is smoother and relies on quickness and shiftiness way more.

This should be evident just by looking Hines Ward highlights and not even tape. Ward was a possession receiver with crazy intangibles heart concentration and physicality and solid hands and ability to get up and make an occasional contested catch and be physical.

If any player on the Niners reminds me of Ward, it's Jennings

Bell reminds me of that sorry Paul Williams who was dumb enough to not know the ball was bouncing his way and cost us a Super Bowl appearance ..

Of the Temptations? I think Paul was long gone by that game.

Paul Williams - which one cost the 49ers a SB? LOL

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by elguapo:
He will take JJ's or Ray Rays spot after this year

He has a decent chance to take Ray-Ray's spot this season. With the new kickoff rules, can Kyle justify keeping McCloud as a return man, if Bell and Gray prove to be better receivers than him, since both can also contribute on special teams? This roster is loaded, so they'll be some really difficult roster decisions in the upcoming months.

Excellent call!

The new KO rules create a new dynamic - return specialists have lost SOME of their value.

Especially when another guy w/good speed can do the job and is less of a cap hit.

This is my thinking. Bell has the capabilities to be a solid PR, even if he doesn't have the big return potential like Ray-Ray. Yes they will have to eat the $800k+ dead money, but I bet they value being able to keep an extra DL or younger guy with potential like Colletto or Jamison, over keeping a PR that caught 17 balls last season. Bell has a damn good chance to make Ray-Ray expendable if he offers more on offense because injuries will happen over the course of the season, and one of these guys may see significant snaps.

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by elguapo:

He will take JJ's or Ray Rays spot after this year

He has a decent chance to take Ray-Ray's spot this season. With the new kickoff rules, can Kyle justify keeping McCloud as a return man, if Bell and Gray prove to be better receivers than him, since both can also contribute on special teams? This roster is loaded, so they'll be some really difficult roster decisions in the upcoming months.

Excellent call!

The new KO rules create a new dynamic - return specialists have lost SOME of their value.

Especially when another guy w/good speed can do the job and is less of a cap hit.

This is my thinking. Bell has the capabilities to be a solid PR, even if he doesn't have the big return potential like Ray-Ray. Yes they will have to eat the $800k+ dead money, but I bet they value being able to keep an extra DL or younger guy with potential like Colletto or Jamison, over keeping a PR that caught 17 balls last season. Bell has a damn good chance to make Ray-Ray expendable if he offers more on offense because injuries will happen over the course of the season, and one of these guys may see significant snaps.

I don't think the new kickoff rules affect anything. Definitely not a roster spot for McCloud. IMO, at best, it would maybe marginally matter if your returner sucked lol. If they're a threat to take it to the house, why would a guy like McCloud be fair catching anything short, or close to the goal line?

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by elguapo:
He will take JJ's or Ray Rays spot after this year

He has a decent chance to take Ray-Ray's spot this season. With the new kickoff rules, can Kyle justify keeping McCloud as a return man, if Bell and Gray prove to be better receivers than him, since both can also contribute on special teams? This roster is loaded, so they'll be some really difficult roster decisions in the upcoming months.

Excellent call!

The new KO rules create a new dynamic - return specialists have lost SOME of their value.

Especially when another guy w/good speed can do the job and is less of a cap hit.

This is my thinking. Bell has the capabilities to be a solid PR, even if he doesn't have the big return potential like Ray-Ray. Yes they will have to eat the $800k+ dead money, but I bet they value being able to keep an extra DL or younger guy with potential like Colletto or Jamison, over keeping a PR that caught 17 balls last season. Bell has a damn good chance to make Ray-Ray expendable if he offers more on offense because injuries will happen over the course of the season, and one of these guys may see significant snaps.

Why do we keep overrating these UDFAs, what's so special about them? They weren't drafted for a reason, I doubt Colletto beats out McCloud for a roster spot just because he may be a guy to eventually replace Juice, which isn't for a while. As for Jamison, if you keep him, he's not active on game days, he isn't beating out Mooney, Lenoir, Oliver, Womack, or Luter,

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by lamontb:
yea i'm a michigan fan and I don't see dude making the roster. just a flyer

I was wrong

We still have a long ways to go. We could easily keep 5 WR's again too.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by elguapo:
He will take JJ's or Ray Rays spot after this year

He has a decent chance to take Ray-Ray's spot this season. With the new kickoff rules, can Kyle justify keeping McCloud as a return man, if Bell and Gray prove to be better receivers than him, since both can also contribute on special teams? This roster is loaded, so they'll be some really difficult roster decisions in the upcoming months.

Excellent call!

The new KO rules create a new dynamic - return specialists have lost SOME of their value.

Especially when another guy w/good speed can do the job and is less of a cap hit.

This is my thinking. Bell has the capabilities to be a solid PR, even if he doesn't have the big return potential like Ray-Ray. Yes they will have to eat the $800k+ dead money, but I bet they value being able to keep an extra DL or younger guy with potential like Colletto or Jamison, over keeping a PR that caught 17 balls last season. Bell has a damn good chance to make Ray-Ray expendable if he offers more on offense because injuries will happen over the course of the season, and one of these guys may see significant snaps.

Why do we keep overrating these UDFAs, what's so special about them? They weren't drafted for a reason, I doubt Colletto beats out McCloud for a roster spot just because he may be a guy to eventually replace Juice, which isn't for a while. As for Jamison, if you keep him, he's not active on game days, he isn't beating out Mooney, Lenoir, Oliver, Womack, or Luter,

I'm not sure why you're so locked in on a guy that offers nothing outside of gadget plays because he's just not a good WR at only 5" 9' and he can't get open without help. Also, anyone that thinks Shanny is going to ok Ray-Ray not fair catching the ball inside the 10 is crazy. This new rule is not going to have coaches ok with potentially getting a penalty or return blown up, forcing teams to start inside their own 10-15, instead of the 25. So now we're solely keeping McCloud to return punts? 30+ punts returned and 14 catches isn't going to cement his roster spot.

Matt Barrows recently said Bell is in direct competition with Ray-Ray for a roster spot, so don't be surprised if Ray-Ray is traded or waived before they finalize the roster. I also don't think Colletto or Jamison will take that roster spot, because I personally think it will be an extra DL because that's our MO, but it does open up a window for younger players to potentially sneak on the roster if Bell proves he can be a reliable returner and bring more to the table on offense. This is also one of the few teams in the league where you can't just just dismiss late round picks and UDFA's because of our front office success rate finding contributors.

Ronnie Bell was better than Antonio Brown or equal in every combine measurement. Of course, not saying he will be as good as Antonio Brown. Only that his measurables will not be the reason he doesn't make it.

40YrdDash:
4.54 Bell
4.56 Brown

Bench Press:
14 Bell
13 Brown

Broad Jump:
120 Bell
105 Brown

Shuttle:
4.15 Bell
4.18 Brown

3Cone:
6.98 Bell
6.98 Brown

Vertical:
38.5 Bell
33.5 Brown

Originally posted by CraigHR:
Ronnie Bell was better than Antonio Brown or equal in every combine measurement. Of course, not saying he will be as good as Antonio Brown. Only that his measurables will not be the reason he doesn't make it.

40YrdDash:
4.54 Bell
4.56 Brown

Bench Press:
14 Bell
13 Brown

Broad Jump:
120 Bell
105 Brown

Shuttle:
4.15 Bell
4.18 Brown

3Cone:
6.98 Bell
6.98 Brown

Vertical:
38.5 Bell
33.5 Brown

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