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Aug 10, 2023 at 1:26 PM
Originally posted by elguapo:
Jimmy didn't go against Bosa and Drake and Greenlaw

Purdy went against Chandler Jones and Max Crosby possibly the best DE duo in the NFL

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The raiders defense was one of the worst in the league last yr. Their secondary is hot trash. Also Jimmy doesn't have Deebo/BA and CMC. Acting like Drake means much of anything right now. Our defense most certainly doesn't stink even if Bosa/Greenlaw aren't there.

honestly it's not shocking Jimmy is a 7+ yr vet, he's not some elite level QB but he's not dog s**t either. Brock is still developing.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Aug 10, 2023 at 1:31 PM ]
Aug 10, 2023 at 1:30 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:

It's not surprising. Jimmy is a 9 year vet, he should be better than Purdy. It wouldn't be a shock if Jimmy is a better QB than Brock, but the biggest difference is that right now Jimmy costs $25million+ a year whereas Brock's salary is so low it doesn't even count against the cap.
Aug 10, 2023 at 1:32 PM
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
It's not surprising. Jimmy is a 9 year vet, he should be better than Purdy. It wouldn't be a shock if Jimmy is a better QB than Brock, but the biggest difference is that right now Jimmy costs $25million+ a year whereas Brock's salary is so low it doesn't even count against the cap.

Totally agree. The idea that Lance is on the chopping block or needs to be traded is dumb as s**t as well.
Aug 10, 2023 at 1:44 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
It's not surprising. Jimmy is a 9 year vet, he should be better than Purdy. It wouldn't be a shock if Jimmy is a better QB than Brock, but the biggest difference is that right now Jimmy costs $25million+ a year whereas Brock's salary is so low it doesn't even count against the cap.

Totally agree. The idea that Lance is on the chopping block or needs to be traded is dumb as s**t as well.

What if he falls to QB3, in this Sam 'or' TL depth chart?
Aug 10, 2023 at 1:47 PM
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
What if he falls to QB3, in this Sam 'or' TL depth chart?

And what if Sam is 3rd on the depth chart?
Aug 10, 2023 at 1:47 PM
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
It's not surprising. Jimmy is a 9 year vet, he should be better than Purdy. It wouldn't be a shock if Jimmy is a better QB than Brock, but the biggest difference is that right now Jimmy costs $25million+ a year whereas Brock's salary is so low it doesn't even count against the cap.

Totally agree. The idea that Lance is on the chopping block or needs to be traded is dumb as s**t as well.

What if he falls to QB3, in this Sam 'or' TL depth chart?

There's no way Darnold is ahead of Lance and I'm confident it'll stay that way all year
Aug 10, 2023 at 1:54 PM
I've said it before… the QBs have looked good in camp which is great but is the defense possibly taking a step back this season?
Aug 10, 2023 at 1:56 PM
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
There's no way Darnold is ahead of Lance and I'm confident it'll stay that way all year

Sam processing with actual pressure (when he doesn't have a no contact jersey on) isn't gonna help him either.

it's weird so if Lance is QB3 they have to cut him and save absolutely no money. Also who's trading anything meaningful? BUT if Sam is QB3 we're just gonna keep him no matter what, even though they actually save cash cutting him. Personally I think we keep them all. No reason not too.
Aug 10, 2023 at 1:57 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
What if he falls to QB3, in this Sam 'or' TL depth chart?

And what if Sam is 3rd on the depth chart?

You didn't answer the question, I think we are keeping 3 QBs, its our 3 QB rule, after all. Sam is on what a 4.5m, meanwhile TL is at a 9.3m cap hit and 10.8 next season. 4.5m is pretty rich for QB3, however 9.3m is a lot moreso, also you have the next year hit. So if they sour on TL, the contract becomes an issue, is why you are seeing trade TL chatter, like now on the homepage. If they sour on Darnold, they can simply QB3 him, at much less dollars than TL, or cut. And QB3 Allen.

Will you answer now?
Aug 10, 2023 at 2:01 PM
Originally posted by Shorteous:
I've said it before… the QBs have looked good in camp which is great but is the defense possibly taking a step back this season?

I think initially in the season, yes. Come end of year, I would expect any shortcomings to not be significant, although this depends completely on the CBs. Even so, I expect more interceptions and a more aggressive style of play, which I prefer, even though it can be exploited, and may be if the team makes the Super Bowl against the likes of PM.
Aug 10, 2023 at 2:04 PM
Originally posted by Polkadots:
Originally posted by Shorteous:
I've said it before… the QBs have looked good in camp which is great but is the defense possibly taking a step back this season?

I think initially in the season, yes. Come end of year, I would expect any shortcomings to not be significant, although this depends completely on the CBs. Even so, I expect more interceptions and a more aggressive style of play, which I prefer, even though it can be exploited, and may be if the team makes the Super Bowl against the likes of PM.

Well we're also missing our best defensive player and it sounds like our d-line is getting a lot of pressure even without Bosa, but that doesn't really matter much in practice because they don't always call the play dead after a sack.

It is important to remember that when Bosa missed a game last year, we let Marcus Mariota complete 90+% of his passes against us.
Aug 10, 2023 at 2:05 PM
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
You didn't answer the question, I think we are keeping 3 QBs, its our 3 QB rule, after all. Sam is on what a 4.5m, meanwhile TL is at a 9.3m cap hit and 10.8 next season. 4.5m is pretty rich for QB3, however 9.3m is a lot moreso, also you have the next year hit. So if they sour on TL, the contract becomes an issue, is why you are seeing trade TL chatter, like now on the homepage. If they sour on Darnold, they can simply QB3 him, at much less dollars than TL, or cut. And QB3 Allen.

Will you answer now?

There have been different links on the homepage about trading Trey Lance for months. Today is no different. The article a few days ago said it best: why trade Trey when the only reason to do so would be if Trey isn't playing well, which will result in lousy compensation, thus no point in trading him. The money savings (this year) will not offset the piss poor compensation they will receive (this year).
Aug 10, 2023 at 2:07 PM
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

It's not surprising. Jimmy is a 9 year vet, he should be better than Purdy. It wouldn't be a shock if Jimmy is a better QB than Brock, but the biggest difference is that right now Jimmy costs $25million+ a year whereas Brock's salary is so low it doesn't even count against the cap.

It's nice to see Trey getting some props from another team's insider -- and not just a writer, a guy who actually played football too. Let's hope he keeps this up. Keep stacking days, kid.
Aug 10, 2023 at 2:08 PM
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Well we're also missing our best defensive player and it sounds like our d-line is getting a lot of pressure even without Bosa, but that doesn't really matter much in practice because they don't always call the play dead after a sack.

It is important to remember that when Bosa missed a game last year, we let Marcus Mariota complete 90+% of his passes against us.

To be sure. I simply think Wilks and the team will have a small adjustment period early on, but I think his style will translate well to the makeup of the 49ers' D. I think that results in a more chaotic defense than what Ryans ran, which is a good thing, though can be exploited (like any scheme) without discipline and pressure. The pressure part worries me, because we all know holding does not exist come Jan. Just ask Nick
Aug 10, 2023 at 2:26 PM
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