OTAs/Training Camp 2023

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Without being there, it's hard to fully judge everything. Over the course of camp, for myself the best I feel I can do is look for running themes.

You probably don't want Brock having multi-pick practices every single day or even every other day. As much as we love the guy, I don't want to see that anymore from him than I would any other QB on the roster. No worries if it's an isolated thing, but I lean towards not wanting this to be a habit. You want to see a guy adjust and make corrections before you get into games. It's a big deal if you don't fix problems and they carry over to the field on gameday.

TBD if that'll be the case. But I lean towards it not being this bad. A month still to work out the kinks.

If one is brutaly honest, more easy INTS were dropped during his stint last season.
INTs cover his way through training camp and now peak against the raiders.

Brock was a bit wild at times in college lol, he definitely did what .. you know.. Shanahan's favorite phrase is.. "Let it rip" -- Last year turnovers weren't an issue. Yes some were dropped, but that's true for all QBs in the league. I don't know if he had any more dropped than other guys.

So JimmyG outperforms Purdy in a totally new offense. Not what one wants to hear.

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:

So JimmyG outperforms Purdy in a totally new offense. Not what one wants to hear.

Well, not totally new. He knows McDaniels really well.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Well, not totally new. He knows McDaniels really well.

Was hurt, new teammates. One would expect a QB, that reportetly played on an MVP Level in his 8 starts, to not be outperformed like that with an offense that seemingly has the best arsenal of offensive weapons in the league.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
This was the Raiders super bowl. I hope they enjoy their 5 wins this season

Jimmy gets you to the playoffs if he's healthy. I expect the raiders to have a bit of a rebound season this year. Now, he can't win it all, which is the point. But if your franchise is listless out to sea, he can steady the ship.

Playoffs?? that team??

don't make me spit my coffee

yessir lol
I understand they got JG, who is good, but Carr was also good
so where is the upgrade? They won 6 games last year, and are coached by Josh McD
They will be dueling with Denver for 3rd place, in the West

Weren't you in the Jimmy "just wins" camp?

No sir, that is in my guess a strawman, from folks who didn't like our QB1, they say JG was 'along for the ride', which begs the question why wasn't the other QBs under KS? I don't think anyone sat here posting that JG just walks out there by himself, 1v11, and 'just wins'. Granted QB plays a large role in the outcome and I say yes JG played a role in our success. But it's a team game, and it has been. So it's about the Raiders team, and JG would upgrade if they had no QB, but they had Carr, and he's a pretty darn good QB, imo. So again, where is the upgrade there? Ppl gonna say JG is massively better than Carr, enough to jolt the needle in a big way? I don't think so. Now if you put a Tom Brady in Vegas, that would be interesting..

Originally posted by tankle104:
I bring it up with Lance because it's a 2+ year long issue.. it isn't new. It's a struggle he's had since day 1 - it's been well documented in his games, practices, and all three camps.

yhis is the first multiple pick Brock day has had, at least that I can think of. He's had a pick some days but don't act like he's dropping 3 picks every day. You can go back 2+ years of Lance with the short accuracy issue.

Wait it's an issue when?? In practice? Because we got next to nothing to discuss good or bad in meaningful football games.

again this is a perfect example of wanting people to use context for one person but not the other. End of the day it's practice and it's okay. I've brought up multiple dropped INTs and putting the ball in harms way with Brock, you said that s**t doesn't matter because it wasn't an INT. When in reality it does, a bad throw is a bad throw. He did the same stuff in college.

im not saying this means anything for him. It's just practice, but keep the same energy for EVERYONE.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Brock was a bit wild at times in college lol, he definitely did what .. you know.. Shanahan's favorite phrase is.. "Let it rip" -- Last year turnovers weren't an issue. Yes some were dropped, but that's true for all QBs in the league. I don't know if he had any more dropped than other guys.

for sure QBs have those moments. We act like Brock threw 600 passings last yr. It was 170 with plenty of those moments.

I got no problem with the gunslinger mentality if you can make up for it with explosives.

If Shanahan fails on the QB Call and Lance shines somewhere else, this should be a serious red flag for the organization.
Its been 7 seasons and he cant get this position stable and solved. Alarming to me.

Purdy's supposed to let it rip during practice and training camp! What is wrong with you guys! This isn't a game! He's trying different things. I'm In the f**king twilight zone. Fred Warner complained last year about trey being too conservative during camp and practice. Purdy is doing what he's supposed to be doing. Unless this is happening in a meaningful game i dont want to hear it.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Purdy's supposed to let it rip during practice and training camp! What is wrong with you guys! This isn't a game! He's trying different things. I'm In the f**king twilight zone. Fred Warner complained last year about trey being too conservative during camp and practice. Purdy is doing what he's supposed to be doing. Unless this is happening in a meaningful game i dont want to hear it.

Jose with the voice of reason post, for the day.
maybe they all had BP in their TC fantasy lineups, and are losing points with all those INTs

I hope Jimmy G didn't expose our defense

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Purdy's supposed to let it rip during practice and training camp! What is wrong with you guys! This isn't a game! He's trying different things. I'm In the f**king twilight zone. Fred Warner complained last year about trey being too conservative during camp and practice. Purdy is doing what he's supposed to be doing. Unless this is happening in a meaningful game i dont want to hear it.

Jose with the voice of reason post, for the day.
maybe they all had BP in their TC fantasy lineups, and are losing points with all those INTs

Damn, they are they doing TC Fantasy now? Wouldn't be surprised.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Purdy's supposed to let it rip during practice and training camp! What is wrong with you guys! This isn't a game! He's trying different things. I'm In the f**king twilight zone. Fred Warner complained last year about trey being too conservative during camp and practice. Purdy is doing what he's supposed to be doing. Unless this is happening in a meaningful game i dont want to hear it.

Jose with the voice of reason post, for the day.
maybe they all had BP in their TC fantasy lineups, and are losing points with all those INTs

Lol just imagine if Lance completed 50% of his passes and had 3 INTs as the QB1 today…I'm sure you'd all be saying the same thing.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Purdy's supposed to let it rip during practice and training camp! What is wrong with you guys! This isn't a game! He's trying different things. I'm In the f**king twilight zone. Fred Warner complained last year about trey being too conservative during camp and practice. Purdy is doing what he's supposed to be doing. Unless this is happening in a meaningful game i dont want to hear it.

Jose with the voice of reason post, for the day.
maybe they all had BP in their TC fantasy lineups, and are losing points with all those INTs

These INTs don't amount to much. But if they continue during real games, then they absolutely will. So it's not a good sign, but it's not too important yet. And like some posters have said, better now than later.

Originally posted by ninersporvida:
I hope Jimmy G didn't expose our defense