Is this a make or break year?

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Nah. Clinton was in his first term, Tupac, Notorious BIG, Eazy E were all still alive, Beavis and Butthead was driving parents nuts, and rent was under 2k for a 3 bedroom house the last time the Niners won a Super Bowl. That is unacceptable especially with how close they have been to getting 1 for the last 12 years.

some fans on here have gotten weirdly complacent with just making it close enough, I can't relate, especially if you weren't old enough or alive to see and appreciate any of the 5 super bowls

Well, having seen 4 of them live, not sure I agree that it is complacency. Events happen. Luck runs in certain ways. Injuries also. If you check on the history of most teams, that is the way it goes. Of course for some teams, it doesn't even get that good. Count out the number of teams and explain to us why it is unacceptable.

I like the way things are moving. Unless something horrendous or downright unlucky happens we are likely to look back on this period as the preparation or evolution of a team. I plan to enjoy it.

Originally posted by English:
Well, having seen 4 of them live, not sure I agree that it is complacency. Events happen. Luck runs in certain ways. Injuries also. If you check on the history of most teams, that is the way it goes. Of course for some teams, it doesn't even get that good. Count out the number of teams and explain to us why it is unacceptable.

I like the way things are moving. Unless something horrendous or downright unlucky happens we are likely to look back on this period as the preparation or evolution of a team. I plan to enjoy it.

Are we still evolving lol?

How much more evolution can the Yorks afford? We have the team shanahan has been carping about since he got here.

He wanted receivers, we have two all pro studs.

He wanted do-everything running back, We got the ultimate Mcm.

He wanted outside zone flyback, we got Mitchell.

He wanted red zone finisher, we got Jennings.

He wanted the best blocking tight end in the league, we got kittle. Who happens to have all pro hands as well.

He wanted swiss army full back, we got juice.

Plus the best left tackle in the league. Plus the best defensive end in the league. Plus the most promising rookie qb in a while. Plus all pro Hargrave

Plus c ward warner greenlaw gipson armstead mason ray ray.

We got holes, but that's a lot to work with.

I'm thinking we won't have to order too much popcorn to wait for the show.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by English:
Well, having seen 4 of them live, not sure I agree that it is complacency. Events happen. Luck runs in certain ways. Injuries also. If you check on the history of most teams, that is the way it goes. Of course for some teams, it doesn't even get that good. Count out the number of teams and explain to us why it is unacceptable.

I like the way things are moving. Unless something horrendous or downright unlucky happens we are likely to look back on this period as the preparation or evolution of a team. I plan to enjoy it.

Are we still evolving lol?

How much more evolution can the Yorks afford? We have the team shanahan has been carping about since he got here.

He wanted receivers, we have two all pro studs.

He wanted do-everything running back, We got the ultimate Mcm.

He wanted outside zone flyback, we got Mitchell.

He wanted red zone finisher, we got Jennings.

He wanted the best blocking tight end in the league, we got kittle. Who happens to have all pro hands as well.

He wanted swiss army full back, we got juice.

Plus the best left tackle in the league. Plus the best defensive end in the league. Plus the most promising rookie qb in a while. Plus all pro Hargrave

Plus c ward warner greenlaw gipson armstead mason ray ray.

We got holes, but that's a lot to work with.

I'm thinking we won't have to order too much popcorn to wait for the show.

I think we are still evolving. The O line is certainly still evolving and the advent of Hargrave likewise. There is one thing you forgot to mention which is probably pretty much top of the list this year. An absence of injuries, and certainly of season-Enders. Whilst there will inevitably be some, we want them relatively mild, spread around the team rather than concentrating on a few positions and, hopefully, not hitting the key players.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by English:
Well, having seen 4 of them live, not sure I agree that it is complacency. Events happen. Luck runs in certain ways. Injuries also. If you check on the history of most teams, that is the way it goes. Of course for some teams, it doesn't even get that good. Count out the number of teams and explain to us why it is unacceptable.

I like the way things are moving. Unless something horrendous or downright unlucky happens we are likely to look back on this period as the preparation or evolution of a team. I plan to enjoy it.

Are we still evolving lol?

How much more evolution can the Yorks afford? We have the team shanahan has been carping about since he got here.

He wanted receivers, we have two all pro studs.

He wanted do-everything running back, We got the ultimate Mcm.

He wanted outside zone flyback, we got Mitchell.

He wanted red zone finisher, we got Jennings.

He wanted the best blocking tight end in the league, we got kittle. Who happens to have all pro hands as well.

He wanted swiss army full back, we got juice.

Plus the best left tackle in the league. Plus the best defensive end in the league. Plus the most promising rookie qb in a while. Plus all pro Hargrave

Plus c ward warner greenlaw gipson armstead mason ray ray.

We got holes, but that's a lot to work with.

I'm thinking we won't have to order too much popcorn to wait for the show.

I think we are still evolving. The O line is certainly still evolving and the advent of Hargrave likewise. There is one thing you forgot to mention which is probably pretty much top of the list this year. An absence of injuries, and certainly of season-Enders. Whilst there will inevitably be some, we want them relatively mild, spread around the team rather than concentrating on a few positions and, hopefully, not hitting the key players.

if we dont win this year people will be let go. we have a lot of talent on this roster, they need to get results now. like another poster said, we have gotten complacent with the "theres always next year" stuff. we deserve a championship. I never thought in my lifetime (growing up in the 90's) that the warriors and giants would be the consistent winners and the niners would struggle to win anything after 94

Of course it's now or never. This team was built to win one now. No way we keep the core intact forever. This is our 5th stab at a championship in 5 years. 1 SB loss and 2 NFCC game losses. One can argue that we blew our chances already.

No offense, but if you've been a Niner fan for the past 40 years, there is NO reason you should be making comments like "I'm just enjoying the ride" and "it's been fun, can't wait to see if we can keep it going". If anything that mentality is lame.

I think Kyle has two years with this core before it falls apart. And IF he can't win one by then, I'm all for moving on from him. Not interested or satisfied with "runner-up honors" like some of you folks…

Originally posted by DrEll:
Of course it's now or never. This team was built to win one now. No way we keep the core intact forever. This is our 5th stab at a championship in 5 years. 1 SB loss and 2 NFCC game losses. One can argue that we blew our chances already.

No offense, but if you've been a Niner fan for the past 40 years, there is NO reason you should be making comments like "I'm just enjoying the ride" and "it's been fun, can't wait to see if we can keep it going". If anything that mentality is lame.

I think Kyle has two years with this core before it falls apart. And IF he can't win one by then, I'm all for moving on from him. Not interested or satisfied with "runner-up honors" like some of you folks…

I agree completely, other than stating we may have this season and next before the price tag associated with many of our players will become untenable

Originally posted by DrEll:
Of course it's now or never. This team was built to win one now. No way we keep the core intact forever. This is our 5th stab at a championship in 5 years. 1 SB loss and 2 NFCC game losses. One can argue that we blew our chances already.

No offense, but if you've been a Niner fan for the past 40 years, there is NO reason you should be making comments like "I'm just enjoying the ride" and "it's been fun, can't wait to see if we can keep it going". If anything that mentality is lame.

I think Kyle has two years with this core before it falls apart. And IF he can't win one by then, I'm all for moving on from him. Not interested or satisfied with "runner-up honors" like some of you folks…

Originally posted by English:
I think we are still evolving. The O line is certainly still evolving and the advent of Hargrave likewise. There is one thing you forgot to mention which is probably pretty much top of the list this year. An absence of injuries, and certainly of season-Enders. Whilst there will inevitably be some, we want them relatively mild, spread around the team rather than concentrating on a few positions and, hopefully, not hitting the key players.

That's really it, man. I was concerned about QB until last year, but I think this team is strong enough now to win it even if Jimmy was still starting. The luck we've had with injuries has been absolutely devastating. In fact, our injury rate has been so abnormally high, we are DUE a few abnormally low injury rates.

I could definitely see everyone getting fired and all contracts cancelled if we win the nfc west, make the playoffs, make the nfccg, but fail to win the superbowl.

Happens all the time. Most playoff coaches fail to return the following year. Superb-roster-building GMs fare even worse.

May even change the logo if we don't win it all.

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
I could definitely see everyone getting fired and all contracts cancelled if we win the nfc west, make the playoffs, make the nfccg, but fail to win the superbowl.

Happens all the time. Most playoff coaches fail to return the following year. Superb-roster-building GMs fare even worse.

May even change the logo if we don't win it all.

I can definitely see changes being made if we get our butts kicked with all the talent we have and another off season of senior staff fleeing.

Last year was much more make or break than this year.

Last year was the last time with Jimmy as the known winning commodity. Now you have purdy on a rookie contract and lance with potential upside.

The expectations should be lower.

If things go south you can ship guys off next year to make cap room like deebo and still be pretty good on defense with boss signed and mcaffry and our rbs on offense.

It's all about the QB play. Previous years we were working on a razor margin at the top of Jimmy's game.

Now we have a new QB with potentially more upside which should give us more slack in other positions to degrade. Simultaneously our QB could suck and we could run into problems but the risk reward is higher.

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Last year was much more make or break than this year.

Last year was the last time with Jimmy as the known winning commodity. Now you have purdy on a rookie contract and lance with potential upside.

The expectations should be lower.

No way this will happen with our payroll.

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by English:
Well, having seen 4 of them live, not sure I agree that it is complacency. Events happen. Luck runs in certain ways. Injuries also. If you check on the history of most teams, that is the way it goes. Of course for some teams, it doesn't even get that good. Count out the number of teams and explain to us why it is unacceptable.

I like the way things are moving. Unless something horrendous or downright unlucky happens we are likely to look back on this period as the preparation or evolution of a team. I plan to enjoy it.

Are we still evolving lol?

How much more evolution can the Yorks afford? We have the team shanahan has been carping about since he got here.

He wanted receivers, we have two all pro studs.

He wanted do-everything running back, We got the ultimate Mcm.

He wanted outside zone flyback, we got Mitchell.

He wanted red zone finisher, we got Jennings.

He wanted the best blocking tight end in the league, we got kittle. Who happens to have all pro hands as well.

He wanted swiss army full back, we got juice.

Plus the best left tackle in the league. Plus the best defensive end in the league. Plus the most promising rookie qb in a while. Plus all pro Hargrave

Plus c ward warner greenlaw gipson armstead mason ray ray.

We got holes, but that's a lot to work with.

I'm thinking we won't have to order too much popcorn to wait for the show.

I think we are still evolving. The O line is certainly still evolving and the advent of Hargrave likewise. There is one thing you forgot to mention which is probably pretty much top of the list this year. An absence of injuries, and certainly of season-Enders. Whilst there will inevitably be some, we want them relatively mild, spread around the team rather than concentrating on a few positions and, hopefully, not hitting the key players.

if we dont win this year people will be let go. we have a lot of talent on this roster, they need to get results now. like another poster said, we have gotten complacent with the "theres always next year" stuff. we deserve a championship. I never thought in my lifetime (growing up in the 90's) that the warriors and giants would be the consistent winners and the niners would struggle to win anything after 94

Agreed. it's time to get it done

It's make or break just look at the QB room, BP has $250m riding on this season and the next couple years. You don't think that's make or break? What about TL his entire career path may hinge on this next season, Sam Darnold also. That's just the QB room. The difference between balling as a QB and not balling is easily in excess of $100,000,000 if you play the position well, ask D Jones, Geno, etc.

You guys gotta understand the stakes here, NFL careers are on the line, dollars, legacy, the ring for these vets, it doesn't get any more make or break than this.
KS's head looking it will explode with each passing day of no SB ring, that's def a make or break, also