Preseason 2023: 49ers at Raiders - Game 1

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by VA9erfan:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Even with the sack by Ferrell, I don't believe he's the answer to our thin DE room.

He's not

What da? He did good.

He looked fine to me also. Considering the raiders had very very few traditional dropback passes.

Fine is the correct verbiage.

I just don't think he'll have the impact we had with Ebukam or Omenihu, which is what I believe we need from that #3 DE spot.

I am saying that I would like to see Ferrell face a more traditional dropback passing game before making any premature judgements on if he'll have an impact on the season or not.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Montana:
Heard a few fans crying for Jimmy during the game lol.

Nice Montana, to be at the game. Seems like a really cool stadium.

Allegiant is a beautiful, wonderful stadium. Should be awesome for the SB. I hope we are in it but if not, we will get the six eventually. 🏆

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Montana:
Heard a few fans crying for Jimmy during the game lol.

Nice Montana, to be at the game. Seems like a really cool stadium.

Allegiant is a beautiful, wonderful stadium. Should be awesome for the SB. I hope we are in it but if not, we will get the six eventually. 🏆

yessir buddy

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by ninersush:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
With all due respect. Shanahan has and he is the one who runs the show so...

Oh I know he has. He's put all his stock into Brock.

Again this is the same dude that gave up 3 1sts just to get Lance in the building, passed on Mahomes/Watson/Allen for Kirk. Passed on Brady for Jimmy and made JG the highest paid player in history off of 5 meaningless games.

Passing on Mahomes will always come back to haunt us.

We could have won at least one super bowl with Shanny by now If we had drafted Pat.

This is the biggest miss of all. Can't stress this enough. We probably would have min of 1 superbowl by now.

I feel like Kyle values Alex Smith traits and not Aaron Rodgers traits, whatever they may be specifically. Drafting Trey seems so foolish now, especially given the stupid amount of running Kyle had him do last year to get him hurt and not develop him as a QB.

Anyhow, team looked terrible yesterday. The good thing is that it was all the back-ups.

As ineffective as those designed Trey runs were, you have to call those because Trey cannot execute the pass plays anywhere near the standard needed to play in the NFL.

at risk of beating a dead horse, i get the need to run him a little to get him comfortable, use his (supposed) running skill set, etc. but you can't develop as a passer by running him, he needs to pass.

that said, as the 1st half wore on, Trey seemed to play better/faster/with more timing & rhythm/etc. that seems to indicate that he's not a nick mullens/beathard/cody pickett type of talent but instead a pretty raw kid who just needs reps. he could be good some day or he could not. sadly his injury last year (which is why i am still mad about the excessive running) probably torpedoed his career as a starter. even if he goes somewhere else this year (i firmly think we should keep him) or next he likely won't be given a chance like mariota in ATL or tannehill in TEN, who are both failed starters at drafted teams. i think we should hang on to Trey and Sam, if affordable, for the remainder of Purdy's career. without QB injury history/luck we know we will need them.

Another take away from the game, Kittle's hair is getting really long, wonder how long he will grow it lol

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Montana:
Heard a few fans crying for Jimmy during the game lol.

Nice Montana, to be at the game. Seems like a really cool stadium.

Allegiant is a beautiful, wonderful stadium. Should be awesome for the SB. I hope we are in it but if not, we will get the six eventually. 🏆

I have to go to Vegas a few times a year for work, so I've seen it built. Someone on my team that I work closely with also lives in Henderson (he's remote). So when I'm out there, I visit him to catch up. All of the facilities the raiders built are in the Henderson area and nice (where the teams practiced the last few days). Raiders have built some really nice facilities out there and helped it grow a lot.

the super bowl will be crazy out there. Lol

Originally posted by tankle104:
I have to go to Vegas a few times a year for work, so I've seen it built. Someone on my team that I work closely with also lives in Henderson (he's remote). So when I'm out there, I visit him to catch up. All of the facilities the raiders built are in the Henderson area and nice (where the teams practiced the last few days). Raiders have built some really nice facilities out there and helped it grow a lot.

the super bowl will be crazy out there. Lol

It sure will be but kinda doubt it passes the crazy for the Stanley Cup, that was insane and so very awesome. Should be pretty crazy though:). The MSG Sphere by the Venetian looks cool, looks like U2 is kicking things off there, not really into them but should be some good shows.

Observations:
1. Trey Lance looked positively horrible. The best game Trey has ever played for SF took place two seasons ago against Houston. He hasn't come close to looking like that again.
2. The entire team looked unprepared. Tay Martin really looked bad. His boneheaded response to a fumble is the kind of play that can come back to haunt him on final cut down day.
3. A backup Raiders QB sliced and diced a 49er defense. Didn't look good. Raiders looked motivated for a preseason game. 49ers did not. I don't think Bosa would have played even if he was not holding out. The rest of the defense just looked putrid.
4. If Trey Lance doesn't play better in the next preseason game, he may slip to #3 behind Darnold. Which would make his trade value NIL. But I don't see how you put him into a game with the way he looked yesterday.

Originally posted by billbird2111:
Observations:
1. Trey Lance looked positively horrible. The best game Trey has ever played for SF took place two seasons ago against Houston. He hasn't come close to looking like that again.
2. The entire team looked unprepared. Tay Martin really looked bad. His boneheaded response to a fumble is the kind of play that can come back to haunt him on final cut down day.
3. A backup Raiders QB sliced and diced a 49er defense. Didn't look good. Raiders looked motivated for a preseason game. 49ers did not. I don't think Bosa would have played even if he was not holding out. The rest of the defense just looked putrid.
4. If Trey Lance doesn't play better in the next preseason game, he may slip to #3 behind Darnold. Which would make his trade value NIL. But I don't see how you put him into a game with the way he looked yesterday.

We played zero of our starters. So it is100% that Bosa wouldn't have been in the game even if he signed his extension.

Originally posted by billbird2111:
Observations:
1. Trey Lance looked positively horrible. The best game Trey has ever played for SF took place two seasons ago against Houston. He hasn't come close to looking like that again.
2. The entire team looked unprepared. Tay Martin really looked bad. His boneheaded response to a fumble is the kind of play that can come back to haunt him on final cut down day.
3. A backup Raiders QB sliced and diced a 49er defense. Didn't look good. Raiders looked motivated for a preseason game. 49ers did not. I don't think Bosa would have played even if he was not holding out. The rest of the defense just looked putrid.
4. If Trey Lance doesn't play better in the next preseason game, he may slip to #3 behind Darnold. Which would make his trade value NIL. But I don't see how you put him into a game with the way he looked yesterday.

Unprepared? It's preseason their 1st game at that and it's funny how it's always the bad teams that come out energized for a damn preseason game compared to a team that wants nothing more than the season to start so they can attack this championship

Most of the team looked like dudes on their first date...not sure how to approach lol

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by billbird2111:
Observations:
1. Trey Lance looked positively horrible. The best game Trey has ever played for SF took place two seasons ago against Houston. He hasn't come close to looking like that again.
2. The entire team looked unprepared. Tay Martin really looked bad. His boneheaded response to a fumble is the kind of play that can come back to haunt him on final cut down day.
3. A backup Raiders QB sliced and diced a 49er defense. Didn't look good. Raiders looked motivated for a preseason game. 49ers did not. I don't think Bosa would have played even if he was not holding out. The rest of the defense just looked putrid.
4. If Trey Lance doesn't play better in the next preseason game, he may slip to #3 behind Darnold. Which would make his trade value NIL. But I don't see how you put him into a game with the way he looked yesterday.

We played zero of our starters. So it is100% that Bosa wouldn't have been in the game even if he signed his extension.

But I thought Trey was the starter… according to some posters.

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by billbird2111:
Observations:
1. Trey Lance looked positively horrible. The best game Trey has ever played for SF took place two seasons ago against Houston. He hasn't come close to looking like that again.
2. The entire team looked unprepared. Tay Martin really looked bad. His boneheaded response to a fumble is the kind of play that can come back to haunt him on final cut down day.
3. A backup Raiders QB sliced and diced a 49er defense. Didn't look good. Raiders looked motivated for a preseason game. 49ers did not. I don't think Bosa would have played even if he was not holding out. The rest of the defense just looked putrid.
4. If Trey Lance doesn't play better in the next preseason game, he may slip to #3 behind Darnold. Which would make his trade value NIL. But I don't see how you put him into a game with the way he looked yesterday.

We played zero of our starters. So it is100% that Bosa wouldn't have been in the game even if he signed his extension.

But I thought Trey was the starter… according to some posters.

Who ever thought that is delusional. Not saying that as a knock on Trey. But Brock has had a ringing endorsement by everyone from GM, HC and team mates. The writing is clearly on the wall.

Originally posted by Montana:
Most of the team looked like dudes on their first date...not sure how to approach lol

It almost seemed like the raiders prepped for this game. Lol they seemed like wayyyy too ready and prepared. Lol

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by VA9erfan:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Even with the sack by Ferrell, I don't believe he's the answer to our thin DE room.

He's not

What da? He did good.

He looked fine to me also. Considering the raiders had very very few traditional dropback passes.

Fine is the correct verbiage.

I just don't think he'll have the impact we had with Ebukam or Omenihu, which is what I believe we need from that #3 DE spot.

Ingram and clowney are both unsigned. We have the room to sign them. We could swing if we wanted to. Probably both go to the Seahawks though and cause us fits for under 10 mill a piece.