OL Ilm Manning (2023 UDFA)

Glad he is back. A lot of people were disappointed he left. But I hope we go after a tackle in the first round next season, I don't want to rely on low round and udfas blocking our qb.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by bassmanr:
We need to develope him ASAP. Serious potential.

Yes but people need to remember he isn't viewed as a Tackle by this coaching staff. Center and/or Guard.

They literally put him at LT and left him there because of how good he played. We (the fans) view him more as a Center and Guard 😂

Hope he can stick as tackle. If he made the 53 next year and we draft a tackle in the first, that is some serious depth at tackle.

Yeah I mean he played LT for a LOT of games in college, but for whatever reason didn't stick with us for the 53 despite how good he showed out. It's the size and arm length which is so stupid. I can't comprehend how he got cut for Pryor and especially Zakejl other then that

The matter of fact is, no teams want him on the active roster right now. So in that perspective, it would be ridiculous to argue the team made a big blunder cutting him back in September.

Yeah that's true, can't argue that. But I will say that Ilm outplayed both of them and was more deserving of a spot based on that fact. I'd also put money down that if SF cut Zakejl, he wouldn't be on any 53 as well. But yeah that's only opinion

Opinion is perfectly fine, but teams decide on the roster based on potential and not current abilities all the time.

Hilarious coming from you. I guess you have double standards when it comes to QBs with potential huh?

I am not sure what you are talking about. Are you referring to Trey? Still feeling bitter that Trey is a Cowboys? You just need to get over it and move on.

lol I need to get over it and move on? You the one in His thread all the time still

I discussed Trey is Trey's thread. Not sure why you would bring up Trey in this thread, so weird.

Didn't even say Treys name. I brought up your double standards when it comes to QBs with potential and you immediately mentioned Trey….hmmm wonder why

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Glad he is back. A lot of people were disappointed he left. But I hope we go after a tackle in the first round next season, I don't want to rely on low round and udfas blocking our qb.

Pure development and depth that hopefully works out in two to three years.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by bassmanr:
We need to develope him ASAP. Serious potential.

Yes but people need to remember he isn't viewed as a Tackle by this coaching staff. Center and/or Guard.

They literally put him at LT and left him there because of how good he played. We (the fans) view him more as a Center and Guard 😂

Hope he can stick as tackle. If he made the 53 next year and we draft a tackle in the first, that is some serious depth at tackle.

Yeah I mean he played LT for a LOT of games in college, but for whatever reason didn't stick with us for the 53 despite how good he showed out. It's the size and arm length which is so stupid. I can't comprehend how he got cut for Pryor and especially Zakejl other then that

The matter of fact is, no teams want him on the active roster right now. So in that perspective, it would be ridiculous to argue the team made a big blunder cutting him back in September.

Yeah that's true, can't argue that. But I will say that Ilm outplayed both of them and was more deserving of a spot based on that fact. I'd also put money down that if SF cut Zakejl, he wouldn't be on any 53 as well. But yeah that's only opinion

Opinion is perfectly fine, but teams decide on the roster based on potential and not current abilities all the time.

Hilarious coming from you. I guess you have double standards when it comes to QBs with potential huh?

I am not sure what you are talking about. Are you referring to Trey? Still feeling bitter that Trey is a Cowboys? You just need to get over it and move on.

lol I need to get over it and move on? You the one in His thread all the time still

I discussed Trey is Trey's thread. Not sure why you would bring up Trey in this thread, so weird.

Didn't even say Treys name. I brought up your double standards when it comes to QBs with potential and you immediately mentioned Trey….hmmm wonder why

So who exactly were you referring when you said " QB with potential"? I asked you whether you were referring to Trey, you never directly answer that. Were you referring to Brock? Darnold? If it was not Trey, can you elaborate what you were trying to say when you said "Hilarious coming from you. I guess you have double standards when it comes to QBs with potential huh?"?

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by bassmanr:
We need to develope him ASAP. Serious potential.

Yes but people need to remember he isn't viewed as a Tackle by this coaching staff. Center and/or Guard.

They literally put him at LT and left him there because of how good he played. We (the fans) view him more as a Center and Guard 😂

Hope he can stick as tackle. If he made the 53 next year and we draft a tackle in the first, that is some serious depth at tackle.

Yeah I mean he played LT for a LOT of games in college, but for whatever reason didn't stick with us for the 53 despite how good he showed out. It's the size and arm length which is so stupid. I can't comprehend how he got cut for Pryor and especially Zakejl other then that

The matter of fact is, no teams want him on the active roster right now. So in that perspective, it would be ridiculous to argue the team made a big blunder cutting him back in September.

Yeah that's true, can't argue that. But I will say that Ilm outplayed both of them and was more deserving of a spot based on that fact. I'd also put money down that if SF cut Zakejl, he wouldn't be on any 53 as well. But yeah that's only opinion

Opinion is perfectly fine, but teams decide on the roster based on potential and not current abilities all the time.

Hilarious coming from you. I guess you have double standards when it comes to QBs with potential huh?

I am not sure what you are talking about. Are you referring to Trey? Still feeling bitter that Trey is a Cowboys? You just need to get over it and move on.

lol I need to get over it and move on? You the one in His thread all the time still

I discussed Trey is Trey's thread. Not sure why you would bring up Trey in this thread, so weird.

Didn't even say Treys name. I brought up your double standards when it comes to QBs with potential and you immediately mentioned Trey….hmmm wonder why

So who exactly were you referring when you said " QB with potential"? I asked you whether you were referring to Trey, you never directly answer that. Were you referring to Brock? Darnold? If it was not Trey, can you elaborate what you were trying to say when you said "Hilarious coming from you. I guess you have double standards when it comes to QBs with potential huh?"?

If Trey has potential, he wouldn't of been traded to a conference rival. He's trash. I liked manning in the preseason, could be a good back up guard or starting guard eventually - he plays nasty. His arms are too short to play tackle full time but it's nice to have a guy who could play tackle in a pinch if we needed.

we are wasting a roster spot on an additional o lineman this year cause we don't have a swing tackle, we only have two tackles who one can only play left and one can only play right. Manning being so versatile would be very welcome.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by bassmanr:
We need to develope him ASAP. Serious potential.

Yes but people need to remember he isn't viewed as a Tackle by this coaching staff. Center and/or Guard.

They literally put him at LT and left him there because of how good he played. We (the fans) view him more as a Center and Guard 😂

Hope he can stick as tackle. If he made the 53 next year and we draft a tackle in the first, that is some serious depth at tackle.

Yeah I mean he played LT for a LOT of games in college, but for whatever reason didn't stick with us for the 53 despite how good he showed out. It's the size and arm length which is so stupid. I can't comprehend how he got cut for Pryor and especially Zakejl other then that

The matter of fact is, no teams want him on the active roster right now. So in that perspective, it would be ridiculous to argue the team made a big blunder cutting him back in September.

Yeah that's true, can't argue that. But I will say that Ilm outplayed both of them and was more deserving of a spot based on that fact. I'd also put money down that if SF cut Zakejl, he wouldn't be on any 53 as well. But yeah that's only opinion

Opinion is perfectly fine, but teams decide on the roster based on potential and not current abilities all the time.

Hilarious coming from you. I guess you have double standards when it comes to QBs with potential huh?

I am not sure what you are talking about. Are you referring to Trey? Still feeling bitter that Trey is a Cowboys? You just need to get over it and move on.

lol I need to get over it and move on? You the one in His thread all the time still

I discussed Trey is Trey's thread. Not sure why you would bring up Trey in this thread, so weird.

Didn't even say Treys name. I brought up your double standards when it comes to QBs with potential and you immediately mentioned Trey….hmmm wonder why

So who exactly were you referring when you said " QB with potential"? I asked you whether you were referring to Trey, you never directly answer that. Were you referring to Brock? Darnold? If it was not Trey, can you elaborate what you were trying to say when you said "Hilarious coming from you. I guess you have double standards when it comes to QBs with potential huh?"?

If Trey has potential, he wouldn't of been traded to a conference rival. He's trash. I liked manning in the preseason, could be a good back up guard or starting guard eventually - he plays nasty. His arms are too short to play tackle full time but it's nice to have a guy who could play tackle in a pinch if we needed.

we are wasting a roster spot on an additional o lineman this year cause we don't have a swing tackle, we only have two tackles who one can only play left and one can only play right. Manning being so versatile would be very welcome.

I agree. NFL basically spoke in volume a month ago. If the league see Trey as a QB prospect with potential, we would have received far more than a 4th round pick. It is so weird some people in this forum, such as 49ers808, are still obsessed over Trey.

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Glad he is back. A lot of people were disappointed he left. But I hope we go after a tackle in the first round next season, I don't want to rely on low round and udfas blocking our qb.

Next draft is a great one for highly rated tackles. I hope they really prioritize OL going forward. If Purdy is the guy then you really need to emphasize keeping him upright.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Glad he is back. A lot of people were disappointed he left. But I hope we go after a tackle in the first round next season, I don't want to rely on low round and udfas blocking our qb.

Next draft is a great one for highly rated tackles. I hope they really prioritize OL going forward. If Purdy is the guy then you really need to emphasize keeping him upright.

Great so we can grab at least 2.

Originally posted by 9NERNATE:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by gold49digger:

Glad he is back. A lot of people were disappointed he left. But I hope we go after a tackle in the first round next season, I don't want to rely on low round and udfas blocking our qb.

Next draft is a great one for highly rated tackles. I hope they really prioritize OL going forward. If Purdy is the guy then you really need to emphasize keeping him upright.

Great so we can grab at least 2.

Make it 3. Go T round 1 that will start at RT and then succeed Trent in '25. Get 1 on day 2 that has T and G flex. And then get iOL like a center on day 3.

All of our backups are replaceable and Banks is entering his final year, competing w. Huf and Aiyuk for extensions.

2024:

LT: Williams/Day 2 Pick
LG: Banks/Manning or Zakelj
C: Brendel/FA Signing or Day 3 Pick
RG: Burford
RT: 1st round pick / McKivtiz

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Glad he is back. A lot of people were disappointed he left. But I hope we go after a tackle in the first round next season, I don't want to rely on low round and udfas blocking our qb.

Pure development and depth that hopefully works out in two to three years.

I was checking out physical strength. Brendel and Manning both did 25 reps of 225Lbs. So both are decently and equally strong. I'd like the center to maybe be doing 32 bench reps *and* have the same measurables in quickness and agility as Brendel and Manning. Tough to get that in the draft, but if Kyle wants his offense to not get stale or stuffed, he's got to get some good OLinemen in the next draft. One reason is that Kyle's a run first coach. His entire offense revolves around CMC as a runner. Why not boost the running game with better OLinemen. Specially at Center (and if need be at Right Tacke) but I'm hoping McKivitz is our future franchise right tackle. We shall see.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by bassmanr:
We need to develope him ASAP. Serious potential.

Yes but people need to remember he isn't viewed as a Tackle by this coaching staff. Center and/or Guard.

They literally put him at LT and left him there because of how good he played. We (the fans) view him more as a Center and Guard 😂

Hope he can stick as tackle. If he made the 53 next year and we draft a tackle in the first, that is some serious depth at tackle.

Yeah I mean he played LT for a LOT of games in college, but for whatever reason didn't stick with us for the 53 despite how good he showed out. It's the size and arm length which is so stupid. I can't comprehend how he got cut for Pryor and especially Zakejl other then that

The matter of fact is, no teams want him on the active roster right now. So in that perspective, it would be ridiculous to argue the team made a big blunder cutting him back in September.

Yeah that's true, can't argue that. But I will say that Ilm outplayed both of them and was more deserving of a spot based on that fact. I'd also put money down that if SF cut Zakejl, he wouldn't be on any 53 as well. But yeah that's only opinion

Opinion is perfectly fine, but teams decide on the roster based on potential and not current abilities all the time.

Hilarious coming from you. I guess you have double standards when it comes to QBs with potential huh?

I am not sure what you are talking about. Are you referring to Trey? Still feeling bitter that Trey is a Cowboys? You just need to get over it and move on.

lol I need to get over it and move on? You the one in His thread all the time still

I discussed Trey is Trey's thread. Not sure why you would bring up Trey in this thread, so weird.

Didn't even say Treys name. I brought up your double standards when it comes to QBs with potential and you immediately mentioned Trey….hmmm wonder why

So who exactly were you referring when you said " QB with potential"? I asked you whether you were referring to Trey, you never directly answer that. Were you referring to Brock? Darnold? If it was not Trey, can you elaborate what you were trying to say when you said "Hilarious coming from you. I guess you have double standards when it comes to QBs with potential huh?"?

You told me that opinions are fine, but teams decide on the roster based on potential and not current abilities all the time. Yes, captain obvious can tell you that I was referring to Trey with the QB position because you were against it from the start. So how can you be of the opinion and tell me teams decide on the roster based on potential and not current abilities and apply such a double standard regarding Trey and the QB position? He was drafted and the 49ers gave up all that they did based on potential, it obviously didn't work out but his roster spot was never justified for the reasons you gave me……by you???

Originally posted by libertyforever:
I agree. NFL basically spoke in volume a month ago. If the league see Trey as a QB prospect with potential, we would have received far more than a 4th round pick. It is so weird some people in this forum, such as 49ers808, are still obsessed over Trey.

lol I ain't obsessed over Trey, never was, I just ain't afraid to call out hypocrisy and double standards when I see it. That would go for any player or topic

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Glad he is back. A lot of people were disappointed he left. But I hope we go after a tackle in the first round next season, I don't want to rely on low round and udfas blocking our qb.

Next draft is a great one for highly rated tackles. I hope they really prioritize OL going forward. If Purdy is the guy then you really need to emphasize keeping him upright.

And by prioritizing offensive lineman, Phoenix really means trade down for a 3rd round pick running back and punter.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by bassmanr:
We need to develope him ASAP. Serious potential.

Yes but people need to remember he isn't viewed as a Tackle by this coaching staff. Center and/or Guard.

They literally put him at LT and left him there because of how good he played. We (the fans) view him more as a Center and Guard 😂

Hope he can stick as tackle. If he made the 53 next year and we draft a tackle in the first, that is some serious depth at tackle.

Yeah I mean he played LT for a LOT of games in college, but for whatever reason didn't stick with us for the 53 despite how good he showed out. It's the size and arm length which is so stupid. I can't comprehend how he got cut for Pryor and especially Zakejl other then that

The matter of fact is, no teams want him on the active roster right now. So in that perspective, it would be ridiculous to argue the team made a big blunder cutting him back in September.

Yeah that's true, can't argue that. But I will say that Ilm outplayed both of them and was more deserving of a spot based on that fact. I'd also put money down that if SF cut Zakejl, he wouldn't be on any 53 as well. But yeah that's only opinion

Opinion is perfectly fine, but teams decide on the roster based on potential and not current abilities all the time.

Hilarious coming from you. I guess you have double standards when it comes to QBs with potential huh?

I am not sure what you are talking about. Are you referring to Trey? Still feeling bitter that Trey is a Cowboys? You just need to get over it and move on.

lol I need to get over it and move on? You the one in His thread all the time still

I discussed Trey is Trey's thread. Not sure why you would bring up Trey in this thread, so weird.

Didn't even say Treys name. I brought up your double standards when it comes to QBs with potential and you immediately mentioned Trey….hmmm wonder why

So who exactly were you referring when you said " QB with potential"? I asked you whether you were referring to Trey, you never directly answer that. Were you referring to Brock? Darnold? If it was not Trey, can you elaborate what you were trying to say when you said "Hilarious coming from you. I guess you have double standards when it comes to QBs with potential huh?"?

You told me that opinions are fine, but teams decide on the roster based on potential and not current abilities all the time. Yes, captain obvious can tell you that I was referring to Trey with the QB position because you were against it from the start. So how can you be of the opinion and tell me teams decide on the roster based on potential and not current abilities and apply such a double standard regarding Trey and the QB position? He was drafted and the 49ers gave up all that they did based on potential, it obviously didn't work out but his roster spot was never justified for the reasons you gave me……by you???

Ok so now you finally admit you were referring to Trey. Not sure why it took you so long to admit. Initially you pretend you wasn't referring to Trey and you were wondering why I mentioned Trey. And now you say captain obvious can tell me you were referring to Trey? Nobody is a fan of your stupid game. This is a very immature of you. Maybe you are a young child, I don't know.

Perhaps you can provide me the exact quote I said, otherwise I don't know what double standard you were referring. Yes I wasn't high on Trey, and knew the team wasn't high on him since last season. That doesn't prove double standard or hypocrisy or anything like that.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Glad he is back. A lot of people were disappointed he left. But I hope we go after a tackle in the first round next season, I don't want to rely on low round and udfas blocking our qb.

Next draft is a great one for highly rated tackles. I hope they really prioritize OL going forward. If Purdy is the guy then you really need to emphasize keeping him upright.

They're probably gonna prioritize DL over OL just like they always have, unless maybe an OL happens to be BPA. Then again their sense of draft value/BPA is ......