Anyone else ashamed of this front office?

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
We win maybe 1 or 2 superbowls if we use the draft capital on the Lance trade toward bolstering oline and secondary.

But we are still serious contenders. Ashamed? Don't be ridiculous. Bitter and angry about what could have been? Sure.

Maybe in 2022 with Purdy.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
We win maybe 1 or 2 superbowls if we use the draft capital on the Lance trade toward bolstering oline and secondary.

But we are still serious contenders. Ashamed? Don't be ridiculous. Bitter and angry about what could have been? Sure.

Maybe in 2022 with Purdy.

2019, 21, and possibly 22 with BP (assuming you meant winning ships)

Originally posted by Heroism:

LULZ 😆

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Shame like premature ejaculation ?

No ejaculation is premature. It just is.

Trey Lance acted like the spoiled brat that he is. When he was informed that he wasn't good enough to start, or even be the primary backup, he whined and said "trade me."

So, the 49ers did. What shame should the front office feel? Wasting three draft picks and investing organization time in attempting to develop a player? A player who repays that effort by whining like a petulant brat who takes his marbles and runs home?

Every 49er fan on this forum would die for the opportunity this kid was handed. Would you, as a 49er fan, run off to the Cowboys?

Trey Lance was a failure on many levels.

I'll be worried if we start looking like the Andy Reid Eagles. Then I'll be worried but until then mistakes are made but these guys still hit more home runs then strike outs. The roster is great and we don't need a Mahomes to lead the group. I am more worried about losing coaches than draft picks that never work out anyway.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Shame like premature ejaculation ?

Can you please give a levels chart describing this topic? Incriminates of 15 seconds

This is absurd. 95% of NFL fanbases would be ecstatic with 3 championship games and a Superbowl appearance in 4 years. I stand by the belief that it would have been 2 Superbowl appearances if Purdy didn't go down.

I get being upset about wasting that much draft capital - I am too. What I don't get are the people that are so upset about him "not really getting a chance" here. You're forgetting one pretty important reason for that - Brock Purdy! That is the x factor that NOBODY saw coming! If Purdy hadn't come in and played like he did, Trey would still be here. I said it at the end of last season that it was going to suck for someone - either the Trey experiment would be done, or the Brock Cinderella story would end. With everything on the line and career trajectory at stake, Brock rehabed, healed, and came in poised and ready. Lance...for all the talk of his improved mechanics in the offseason...just didn't. He looked more (or at least as much) uncomfortable in the pocket and hesitant on throws as he ever has. And I don't care that it was his "first real game action in 11 months" - this was a time to come in and fight for his CAREER, and he did not come prepared. And that is simply not someone you can count on to be your #2 quarterback.

Quit crying. He's gone.
LETS GO NINERS!!!

Originally posted by ForeverYoung8:
Quit crying. He's gone.
LETS GO NINERS!!!

Dang Right! Let's go! Tired of the whining and crying. Get on board or go find a new team to cry about!

Originally posted by RDB4216:
I get being upset about wasting that much draft capital - I am too. What I don't get are the people that are so upset about him "not really getting a chance" here. You're forgetting one pretty important reason for that - Brock Purdy! That is the x factor that NOBODY saw coming! If Purdy hadn't come in and played like he did, Trey would still be here. I said it at the end of last season that it was going to suck for someone - either the Trey experiment would be done, or the Brock Cinderella story would end. With everything on the line and career trajectory at stake, Brock rehabed, healed, and came in poised and ready. Lance...for all the talk of his improved mechanics in the offseason...just didn't. He looked more (or at least as much) uncomfortable in the pocket and hesitant on throws as he ever has. And I don't care that it was his "first real game action in 11 months" - this was a time to come in and fight for his CAREER, and he did not come prepared. And that is simply not someone you can count on to be your #2 quarterback.

Brock wasn't letting anyone take his QB1 spot, he came back in record time from a serious injury. Lol you know he wasn't interested in taking his time with it incase someone does what he did, and keeps his spot.

It's strange but he did the same in college, was a third stringer as a freshman and then had to go in because of poor play/injuries and never looked back - started 47 straight games and rewrote the entire record book. Had them win a bunch of games and put the program on the map.

Came back in 4 months and hasn't missed a beat, just incredible. I'd be upset with the front office if they didn't hand the keys to Brock, TBH. That would of been the stupid move. Im actually glad they cut their losses and moved on instead of continually trying to salvage it because they invested so much. I'm not happy Trey failed here but I'm happy we have someone who looks like he could be a franchise guy. If Brock ends up being that guy, then who cares? As long as we get "the guy".

trey had opportunities that unfortunately were lost to injuries and since he was so raw, there was no room for delays in his playing time/experience. That isn't the teams fault, they took a ridiculously large risk trying to make him the guy and it didn't work out.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Seifert was a very good coach, underrated even but Walsh was an all-timer, greatness personified as a headcoach. Losing him was really the first domino to go in ending the 49ers dynasty.

Off topic really, but I always jump in to defend George, who I think is criminally underrated:

Much of the success of the dominant Walsh teams was due to the fantastic D that he organised. Walsh deserves all his reputation - he was certainly a genius, but his coordinators - including Seifert - deserve a large part of the credit too.

Seifert as HC led two of the three most dominant 9er teams in history. I love the '84 side, but the 89 and 94 versions were surreal. He handled the adversity of the start of the 94 season with firmness and professionalism, as he did with the 89/90 QB controversy. He didn't always make the right calls (handling Haley most of all), but he was a proper manager, as in the sort you find in corporations rather than just sports teams.

He came within a whisker of a third SB in a row, but lost due to a perfect storm of bad luck that you can't put down to coaching. I still hold we were totally shafted by the refs in the 92 game. 93 we lost to a more stacked team.

Seifert's teams missed on the playoffs once (just like Walsh's once the SB run started). In 8 seasons with us he made 5 championship games and won 2 titles with essentially different teams. We slugged it out against three very strong opponents in Dallas, NYG and GB and gave as good as we got. Of course we'd like to win every year, but it's not possible. I love Walsh, and I will never argue that Seifert was better than him. But Walsh's teams also got bad playoff defeats in 85, 86 (ouch) and 87 (embarrassing), and arguably handled the Montana/Young controversy as badly as George did, or perhaps worse. It's tough to be perfect, especially at this level.

George was fantastic, and people should remember him much more fondly. Certainly more than Harbaugh who may be very talented, but is also by all accounts a psychopathic loose cannon who is impossible to work with.

Apologies again, but this is a perennially touchy subject for me. I don't like to be ungrateful.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by RDB4216:
I get being upset about wasting that much draft capital - I am too. What I don't get are the people that are so upset about him "not really getting a chance" here. You're forgetting one pretty important reason for that - Brock Purdy! That is the x factor that NOBODY saw coming! If Purdy hadn't come in and played like he did, Trey would still be here. I said it at the end of last season that it was going to suck for someone - either the Trey experiment would be done, or the Brock Cinderella story would end. With everything on the line and career trajectory at stake, Brock rehabed, healed, and came in poised and ready. Lance...for all the talk of his improved mechanics in the offseason...just didn't. He looked more (or at least as much) uncomfortable in the pocket and hesitant on throws as he ever has. And I don't care that it was his "first real game action in 11 months" - this was a time to come in and fight for his CAREER, and he did not come prepared. And that is simply not someone you can count on to be your #2 quarterback.

Brock wasn't letting anyone take his QB1 spot, he came back in record time from a serious injury. Lol you know he wasn't interested in taking his time with it incase someone does what he did, and keeps his spot.

It's strange but he did the same in college, was a third stringer as a freshman and then had to go in because of poor play/injuries and never looked back - started 47 straight games and rewrote the entire record book. Had them win a bunch of games and put the program on the map.

Came back in 4 months and hasn't missed a beat, just incredible. I'd be upset with the front office if they didn't hand the keys to Brock, TBH. That would of been the stupid move. Im actually glad they cut their losses and moved on instead of continually trying to salvage it because they invested so much. I'm not happy Trey failed here but I'm happy we have someone who looks like he could be a franchise guy. If Brock ends up being that guy, then who cares? As long as we get "the guy".

trey had opportunities that unfortunately were lost to injuries and since he was so raw, there was no room for delays in his playing time/experience. That isn't the teams fault, they took a ridiculously large risk trying to make him the guy and it didn't work out.

I really thought the best case scenarion, would have been Lance coming in - for what we thought at the time might be 2 regular season games, plus the preseason games - and just lighting it up. Either being just too good for us not to play (And Brock has already shown how prepared he is off the bench!), or at least increasing his trade value to recoup more of what we gave up. That simply didn't happen. And it's unlikely that would have happened this year as the #3. So while I can agree Trey didn't really get a lot of chances here, I can also see where he wasn't going to either.

I saw the movie American Underdog: The Kurt Warner Story, awhile ago. And that reminds me so much of Brock. The guy obviously knows how much his career trajectory changed last season, and knows it was a million in one longshot - And he was ready when the time came, and doing all the right things to hold onto it. My biggest fear was he would push himself to come back too fast because of that, and risk a re-injury.

Best man plays regardless of draft position.Ashamed is not a good term of reference here.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I am not ashamed of this front office at all. They have had an insane amount of success given the fact that they have botched the QB position so badly.

If Brock proves to be great, that all changes.

This

They have a FQB who plays like a top 5 QB.

So mutch botch

He playED like a top 5 QB. It is yet to be determined if he playS like a top 5 QB.