Is this the last ride of the current Niners as we know them?

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
IMO, the window is 2023-2025.

In 2026, Trent Williams is probably gone and Purdy isn't on a rookie contract anymore so a different window.

But I expect their core players to be around in 2026, Brock, CMC, Juice(maybe), Deebo, BA, Kittle, Banks, Bosa, Armstead, Hargrave, Fred, Dre, Mooney, Huf, plus Ji'Ayir Brown will hopefully be the teams stud FS, team will look different for sure in 2026, but our core players will still be around IMO, except Trent, unless he actually keeps playing.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
but what about this ride

Too wild for me lol

STILL the stupidest pick EVER... NOLAN based this on a JUMP ROPE REQUEST..

Disagree... what was stupid was drafting Alex then not utilizing him in the areas that made him so deadly. He was a spread QB who needed his mobility to be a threat. Even Nolan admits he f* this up.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
IMO, the window is 2023-2025.

In 2026, Trent Williams is probably gone and Purdy isn't on a rookie contract anymore so a different window.

Another hot take like the Bosa, Burrow, Jefferson agent. Lol

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
but what about this ride

Too wild for me lol

STILL the stupidest pick EVER... NOLAN based this on a JUMP ROPE REQUEST..

Disagree... what was stupid was drafting Alex then not utilizing him in the areas that made him so deadly. He was a spread QB who needed his mobility to be a threat. Even Nolan admits he f* this up.

it wasn't a jump rope request as I recall. Nolan asked him to juggle a football in and around his legs, and Alex did so willingly, whereas Rodgers said he wouldn't do it. That told Nolan Rodgers was the wrong guy, because he wouldn't follow and adapt to a system, or so he extrapolated

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
But I expect their core players to be around in 2026, Brock, CMC, Juice(maybe), Deebo, BA, Kittle, Banks, Bosa, Armstead, Hargrave, Fred, Dre, Mooney, Huf, plus Ji'Ayir Brown will hopefully be the teams stud FS, team will look different for sure in 2026, but our core players will still be around IMO, except Trent, unless he actually keeps playing.

I can't imagine they can keep both Banks and Huff.

Originally posted by Shemp:

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
but what about this ride

Too wild for me lol

STILL the stupidest pick EVER... NOLAN based this on a JUMP ROPE REQUEST..

Disagree... what was stupid was drafting Alex then not utilizing him in the areas that made him so deadly. He was a spread QB who needed his mobility to be a threat. Even Nolan admits he f* this up.

it wasn't a jump rope request as I recall. Nolan asked him to juggle a football in and around his legs, and Alex did so willingly, whereas Rodgers said he wouldn't do it. That told Nolan Rodgers was the wrong guy, because he wouldn't follow and adapt to a system, or so he extrapolated

it was actually a good test, prob was Rodgers gave the correct answer and the 49ers didn't know what to look for in that test

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
But I expect their core players to be around in 2026, Brock, CMC, Juice(maybe), Deebo, BA, Kittle, Banks, Bosa, Armstead, Hargrave, Fred, Dre, Mooney, Huf, plus Ji'Ayir Brown will hopefully be the teams stud FS, team will look different for sure in 2026, but our core players will still be around IMO, except Trent, unless he actually keeps playing.

I can't imagine they can keep both Banks and Huff.

Depends on their asking price, but they won't be able to keep both Guards.

Originally posted by Shemp:

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
but what about this ride

Too wild for me lol

STILL the stupidest pick EVER... NOLAN based this on a JUMP ROPE REQUEST..

Disagree... what was stupid was drafting Alex then not utilizing him in the areas that made him so deadly. He was a spread QB who needed his mobility to be a threat. Even Nolan admits he f* this up.

it wasn't a jump rope request as I recall. Nolan asked him to juggle a football in and around his legs, and Alex did so willingly, whereas Rodgers said he wouldn't do it. That told Nolan Rodgers was the wrong guy, because he wouldn't follow and adapt to a system, or so he extrapolated

Rodgers would've struggled too. He had 2 years to sit and learn behind Favre. If Alex got the same luxury his career would've been much different. Rodgers was handed a team one play away from a Super Bowl. Alex was handed one of the worst 49er teams ever.

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:

Originally posted by Shemp:

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
but what about this ride

Too wild for me lol

STILL the stupidest pick EVER... NOLAN based this on a JUMP ROPE REQUEST..

Disagree... what was stupid was drafting Alex then not utilizing him in the areas that made him so deadly. He was a spread QB who needed his mobility to be a threat. Even Nolan admits he f* this up.

it wasn't a jump rope request as I recall. Nolan asked him to juggle a football in and around his legs, and Alex did so willingly, whereas Rodgers said he wouldn't do it. That told Nolan Rodgers was the wrong guy, because he wouldn't follow and adapt to a system, or so he extrapolated

Rodgers would've struggled too. He had 2 years to sit and learn behind Favre. If Alex got the same luxury his career would've been much different. Rodgers was handed a team one play away from a Super Bowl. Alex was handed one of the worst 49er teams ever.

Arod had to completely rework his mechanics too thats why it took so long for him to start he wouldn't have had that luxury here

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:

Originally posted by Shemp:

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
but what about this ride

Too wild for me lol

STILL the stupidest pick EVER... NOLAN based this on a JUMP ROPE REQUEST..

Disagree... what was stupid was drafting Alex then not utilizing him in the areas that made him so deadly. He was a spread QB who needed his mobility to be a threat. Even Nolan admits he f* this up.

it wasn't a jump rope request as I recall. Nolan asked him to juggle a football in and around his legs, and Alex did so willingly, whereas Rodgers said he wouldn't do it. That told Nolan Rodgers was the wrong guy, because he wouldn't follow and adapt to a system, or so he extrapolated

Rodgers would've struggled too. He had 2 years to sit and learn behind Favre. If Alex got the same luxury his career would've been much different. Rodgers was handed a team one play away from a Super Bowl. Alex was handed one of the worst 49er teams ever.

But I've been told that the only way a guy can improve is live reps.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
No, this isn't it for our window, we have a great chance to win it all this year though, we;'re really all in, brought Hargrave in, extended Bosa, redid deals, but as for 2024, just extend Dre, AA, & Ward and save $27.668M, redo Deebo saves over $15.8M, that's over $43M saved, we'll be fine in 2024 and beyond, Aiyuk will get extended, Huf probably too.

Now will we lose players? Of course, Lenoir, Mitchell, Jauan(in 2025), Burford or Banks, Burks, McCloud, etc... will all be gone, we've drafted many of these guys replacements IMO over the past 2 yrs, plus we have Gipson's successor in Ji'Ayir Brown.

I can't wait for your next Bosa cap article!

Totally agree that we can keep the core players, specially if you are right and they can front load Bosa's contract to the tune of half of the cap space freed up this last week. I think there is about 12+ draft picks next year and we finally have a first round pick! A lot of stuff can happen if ShanaLynch can hit on a couple of starter level players in the draft next year. Personally, I'd like to see another Brock Purdy level, 7th round QB pick next year just to get younger at the QB3 position and possibly in preparation for losing Sam Darnold to free agency next year.

I'd love to keep Banks long term, due to depth and talent level issues at the Offensive Line squad. Personally, I'd see if we can keep more OLinemen than WR's, but yeah, those players you mentioned - probably will be gone if in 2024, ShanaLynch can draft their replacements to develop.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by Niners418:

Originally posted by Jakemall:
Players come and go. If you have a blueprint and a strong reputation the window doesn't close for a long time. Look how long the Patriots kept the window open.

Agreed....even with the Chiefts...they had to make a tough decision and move on from Tyreek. Then they go on to win the SB. I hope Aiyuk can be kept long term but if not, we'll address the position.

We can't keep everyone.....there will be guys let go....but I think we can sustain this especially if Purdy is real.

Having the best QB In the league sure helps keep the window open.

I think having purdy and Kyle should help keep us competitive for a long time Tbh.

With that being said, it's unlikely we'll see a 9ers team with this much talent on It, especially once Purdy gets paid.

Now Is as good as time as ever for us to win a super bowl Imo.

Agree to a certain extent, that once Purdy is paid, it's harder to retain talent. But that doesn't mean the super bowl window closes at that point because Purdy gets paid. Jimmy got paid and we nearly won in 2019 despite Jimmy's hefty salary. Key is, and will, always be the Draft. To have a shot at the super bowl, you have to draft well, consistently over time. That's how they dynasty years became the dynasty years - Walsh was able to draft well and got rid of mistakes very quickly. As much as I love the potential of Trey, he was taking too long to develop according to the 49er team timeline. Kudos to ShanaLynch for pulling the trigger on that and moving on, despite my belief that Trey will eventually be a good QB - possibly even great QB. His development was just taking too much time.

Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Also...."as we know them" is a bit overstating things.

The fact is, the team always changes. I think many fans do not realize we have zero DBs, QBs, Olinemen and RBs (minus Juice) from that 2019 SB run on the current roster. Zero. Just three seasons later, the team is pretty different, with few mainstays being the guys who are really good and are core of the team. And yet it is considered a part of the same window.

Great point! Hopefully the foundation for a Dynasty (read Purdy) is being set in this season!

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
Not to mention what about all these other teams that were over the cap this off-season or bumping up against it? There were tons of restructures by other teams as well. Saints being one of the more famous cases. That being said, we need to continue to hit on our later round picks and stop fooling around with our 1st rounders. Bosa, Aiyuk and to a much lesser extent McGlinchey have only been successful first round stories from this regime. Niners MUST be better here.

Agree that they need to do a better job in the first round, but again, 40% success rate in the first round and it goes down from there as you get later in the draft. Key, I think, is just get starter level players - either in the draft, or free agency. UDFA - like Brendel are worth a first round to fourth round pick in my opinion. Draft Rounds 1 to 4 should *usually* net you a starter level player, but if they appear in the 5th, 6th, or 7th round - who cares - you got a starter level player (example Purdy) anyway. That's how you build a successful team long term - just keep getting good players as the cap and free agency constantly erode your talent base.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
All this restructuring is just delaying the inevitable- cap hell

Absolutely. You can't restructure forever. Sooner or later the players get paid. Check the salaries for next season and you'll see 6 players scheduled to make over $20 million. I haven't seen Bosa's new contract details but if his salary is about $25 million next year then they have about $157 million tied up with 6 players. I know they're going to restructure but that's stili. a lot of work to fit them under the cap. We may see a couple of players traded or released.

I think the team is smart enough now to avoid the so-called "Salary Cap Hell" scenario. I think the last line from CatchMaster is key. I would also like to add: "leave in free agency." We have already witnessed this with Glinch. In a perfect scenario, Glinch would have signed with the 49ers. But you cannot keep everyone. Glinch was good, but he wasn't great. He had his issues with pass-blocking. 49er money is reserved for greats. Not the very good players.

The next big name to leave in free agency may be Aiyuk. Time will tell. Aiyuk has been very good. But has he been great? The team may also have to let Kittle walk at some point. These are just guesses on my part. I have no "insider information." But, I do know that the salary cap does not allow the 49ers to keep everyone. Some players are going to find opportunity and money elsewhere.

I rue the day that the NFL came up with the "49er Rule" in response to Eddie DeBartolo's lavish treatment of players. But it has kept the league somewhat competitive.