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49ERS vs CARDINALS Pregame Thread - 2023 Season Week 4

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49ERS vs CARDINALS Pregame Thread - 2023 Season Week 4

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by ColorMeBaddFan:
Originally posted by InfernoDaLuz:
Most of us out of market will be relegated to Dallas v New England.

I'm not commenting on the fact that most of the markets chose New England vs. Dallas -- they probably have two of the top 5-6 fanbases on the league. I understand it, it makes sense.

That said, CBS only has a single game on Sunday. One of those games they can broadcast is Miami vs. Buffalo -- a genuinely interesting game. I also think Baltimore vs. Cleveland is interesting. On the other hand, CBS also has one of the most putrid games you could imagine, Denver vs. Chicago. Here's the map for CBS. Yellow is Denver vs. Chicago, red is Buffalo vs Miami. Green is Raiders vs Chargers (why is this being show in any market outside of the west)? I live in Utah and it boggles my mind that the affiliates here continue to be under the impression that Denver, no matter how horrible, is a game they must show every week. While Denver does in fact have more fans than other NFL teams in Utah, it is a really LOW plurality. The 49ers are a strong #2, the Raiders probably #3 and then probably a number of fans of the Cowboys/Steelers/Pats/Packers. Utah is a market that should always show the best game if Denver is crappy and not playing a good opponent. Yet they do this crap each and every single year, "hey Utah is also in the Rockies, let's show the PoS Broncos!" I believe the same can be said for Idaho, Montana and probably New Mexico. Salt Lake is over 500 miles away from Denver, Phoenix is only 100 miles further, Vegas is much closer and the bay area is 200 more miles away than Denver.


What'd Minnesota do to deserve Chargers/Raiders?

dam it gotta hear mark sanchez again, almost as bad as chris collinsworth

They show so many games between college and pro that there just aren't enough good broadcasters to go around. Gone are the days when we had Dick Engberg doing the AFC games and Madden and Summerall doing the NFC games. On Monday we had Gifford/Cosell/Keith Jackson. Keith Jackson, Cury Gowdy and Linsey Nelson all had stints at both the pro and college level. These guys knew what they were doing. Now they just give a contract to some ex football player hoping he'll bring in some viewers.
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
They ran straight at Parsons alot of time and it worked out pretty well for them. I wonder if they will use that same approach with bosa.

Problem is Bosa knows how to shed his blocks and make TFL's. I'm sure teams tried that all last year.

Plus, Bosa is bigger. He's got an inch on Parsons, plus 30-extra pounds of muscle mass. Both players are in excellent shape. But Bosa's size makes it tough on teams who attempt to run straight at him. The only way to get away with that strategy is to routinely double-team the guy, and that just opens up opportunities for multiple other players on the 49er D.

I saw a breakdown of 2 giant runs directly at bosa thst showed why it wont work.

Bosa usually wins v the OL at the point of attack and sets the edge while keeping outside arm free

This usually funnels the RB inside where our big FA signing DT is also beating his OL. RB has nowhere to go

Giants ran it again later and tried bouncing it outside but LB Burks was free to run it down after Bosa disengaged and forced RB wide to the sideline

Wish I had the link to share sorry
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
They ran straight at Parsons alot of time and it worked out pretty well for them. I wonder if they will use that same approach with bosa.

Problem is Bosa knows how to shed his blocks and make TFL's. I'm sure teams tried that all last year.

Plus, Bosa is bigger. He's got an inch on Parsons, plus 30-extra pounds of muscle mass. Both players are in excellent shape. But Bosa's size makes it tough on teams who attempt to run straight at him. The only way to get away with that strategy is to routinely double-team the guy, and that just opens up opportunities for multiple other players on the 49er D.

I saw a breakdown of 2 giant runs directly at bosa thst showed why it wont work.

Bosa usually wins v the OL at the point of attack and sets the edge while keeping outside arm free

This usually funnels the RB inside where our big FA signing DT is also beating his OL. RB has nowhere to go

Giants ran it again later and tried bouncing it outside but LB Burks was free to run it down after Bosa disengaged and forced RB wide to the sideline

Wish I had the link to share sorry

The only game that I can remember where a team went right at Bosa and had success was against the chiefs last season. Bosa was coming off an injury with zero practice reps leading up to that game though.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
49ers offense

2nd in points per drive
2nd in yards per drive

Cardinals defense

21st in points per drive
26th in yards per drive

49ers defense

5th in points per drive
4th in yards per drive

Cardinals offense

11th in points per drive
12th in yards per drive
i always liked going off DVOA, someone used to post that info here
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
49ers offense

2nd in points per drive
2nd in yards per drive

Cardinals defense

21st in points per drive
26th in yards per drive

49ers defense

5th in points per drive
4th in yards per drive

Cardinals offense

11th in points per drive
12th in yards per drive
i always liked going off DVOA, someone used to post that info here

49ers are 2nd in offensive DVOA and 4th in defensive DVOA.

Cardinals are 8th in offensive DVOA and 16th in defensive DVOA.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
They show so many games between college and pro that there just aren't enough good broadcasters to go around. Gone are the days when we had Dick Engberg doing the AFC games and Madden and Summerall doing the NFC games. On Monday we had Gifford/Cosell/Keith Jackson. Keith Jackson, Cury Gowdy and Linsey Nelson all had stints at both the pro and college level. These guys knew what they were doing. Now they just give a contract to some ex football player hoping he'll bring in some viewers.

"whoa Nellie" -Keith Jackson was the best college announcer
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
49ers offense

2nd in points per drive
2nd in yards per drive

Cardinals defense

21st in points per drive
26th in yards per drive

49ers defense

5th in points per drive
4th in yards per drive

Cardinals offense

11th in points per drive
12th in yards per drive
i always liked going off DVOA, someone used to post that info here

49ers are 2nd in offensive DVOA and 4th in defensive DVOA.

Cardinals are 8th in offensive DVOA and 16th in defensive DVOA.
Thanks
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
49ers offense

2nd in points per drive
2nd in yards per drive

Cardinals defense

21st in points per drive
26th in yards per drive

49ers defense

5th in points per drive
4th in yards per drive

Cardinals offense

11th in points per drive
12th in yards per drive
i always liked going off DVOA, someone used to post that info here

49ers are 2nd in offensive DVOA and 4th in defensive DVOA.

Cardinals are 8th in offensive DVOA and 16th in defensive DVOA.
Thanks

Unfortunately Football Outsiders is no more, so I have to go hunting for a new subscription....
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
49ers offense

2nd in points per drive
2nd in yards per drive

Cardinals defense

21st in points per drive
26th in yards per drive

49ers defense

5th in points per drive
4th in yards per drive

Cardinals offense

11th in points per drive
12th in yards per drive
i always liked going off DVOA, someone used to post that info here

49ers are 2nd in offensive DVOA and 4th in defensive DVOA.

Cardinals are 8th in offensive DVOA and 16th in defensive DVOA.
Thanks

Unfortunately Football Outsiders is no more, so I have to go hunting for a new subscription....

I found this site with help from a fellow webzoner a few days ago.

https://www.ftnfantasy.com/nfl/tools/dvoa-drive-stats
Learning Bosa is 100% beast mode

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Lets goooo! Check out the link below for my in depth Preview of this matchup!

The key is of course slowing down James Conner, also being disciplined and communicating well to stop Dobbs hurting us on read-option plays. Fingers crossed we have our full compliment of weapons but if Deebo needs to sit, so be it. Would love for the defense to finally get rewarded in sacks for all the pressures we have been getting. Should be a really fun game!

https://youtu.be/uOS60sBJuSk
It was nice having all our weapons on offense for the first 2 weeks of the season
Feeling like we are going to be 4-0 after this game. Lets keep this good streak going!!!
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
It was nice having all our weapons on offense for the first 2 weeks of the season

I think a better way to look at it is we need at least two healthy of the CMC, Kittle, Deebo, and Aiyuk group every week to be effective. If we have more, then we can spread the rock, but at least having two means the opposing defense needs to key on both. And we have enough guys behind them that are good that we should be effective.
Brock n load baby
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