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Sep 23, 2023 at 3:29 PM
- Jason
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Sep 23, 2023 at 6:07 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:no one can say he wouldn't have died if he didn't have medical issues. There's plenty of examples of past incidents that have one of the persons involved getting the worst of it without medical issues.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:if the Miami guy doesn't fight with him, the guy is still alive.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:supposedly the guy hit him and he went into cardiac arrest, thats killing to me
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
A Dolphins fan just killed an Patriots fan this past sunday
the attorney's office reported he had underlying medical issues and autopsy results revealed his death was not from any sort of sustained injury.
just like guys who get punched and hit their head on the ground and die
and if he didn't have underlying medical issues, he doesn't die, either. autopsy showed medical issue, not a traumatic injury sustained from the fight.
only one thing that could have escalated his issue and that was being attacked
Sep 24, 2023 at 5:08 AM
- Sanfran_chrisco
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:no one can say he wouldn't have died if he didn't have medical issues. There's plenty of examples of past incidents that have one of the persons involved getting the worst of it without medical issues.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:if the Miami guy doesn't fight with him, the guy is still alive.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:supposedly the guy hit him and he went into cardiac arrest, thats killing to me
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
A Dolphins fan just killed an Patriots fan this past sunday
the attorney's office reported he had underlying medical issues and autopsy results revealed his death was not from any sort of sustained injury.
just like guys who get punched and hit their head on the ground and die
and if he didn't have underlying medical issues, he doesn't die, either. autopsy showed medical issue, not a traumatic injury sustained from the fight.
only one thing that could have escalated his issue and that was being attacked
and regardless, that part where we started from of a Dolphins fan killing a Patriots fan? yeah, not true according to preliminary autopsy results. fan was not a direct cause of death.
can move on now.
Sep 24, 2023 at 10:36 AM
- communist
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nothing. they always suck
Sep 24, 2023 at 10:42 AM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by Jason:
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/fans-fights-levis-stadium-possible-lifetime-ban/3325169/?mibextid=Zxz2cZ
You can easily avoid that. Your buddy buys the tickets and puts it in his name. Then brings you to the game. I really don't think that prevents much if people want to get around it. But they try at least. Maybe there is some more severe penalty if you are caught by police violating that. I'm not sure?
Sep 24, 2023 at 12:59 PM
- Hoovtrain
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Originally posted by Jason:
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/fans-fights-levis-stadium-possible-lifetime-ban/3325169/?mibextid=Zxz2cZ
Cheap shot artist in the Sherman jersey needs to be in jail along with the guy who kicked the guy on the ground.
Sep 24, 2023 at 4:38 PM
- fropwns
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by fropwns:
Originally posted by Jason:
I've been seeing this for a few years now, our fan's level of knowledge of the game and impulse control is at an all time low. We have people that are constantly talking about firing everyone or trading our best players away after a win. In addition to that, it seems like once a week TMZ is doing a story about our fans not only fighting, but fighting each other! Today a story appeared in my news feed about a woman who was slung down the steps in the stands by her hair (by another Niner fan). Seriously, I've been a fan for over three decades and I can't remember it ever being this bad.
What do you think it is? Can it be fixed?
1994 was the last time we won the Super Bowl.
True, but we've been to two since then, IMO we should have won both, BS calls went BAL & KC's ways, but it's not easy to win a SB, only 1 team can do it in a season, haven't seen a back to back champions since Brady led Pats.
Again, we have not won since 1994.
Sep 25, 2023 at 11:05 AM
- Memphis9er
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Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:NFL coverup going into effect. Can't have that bad press.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:supposedly the guy hit him and he went into cardiac arrest, thats killing to me
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
A Dolphins fan just killed an Patriots fan this past sunday
the attorney's office reported he had underlying medical issues and autopsy results revealed his death was not from any sort of sustained injury.
Sep 25, 2023 at 11:15 AM
- TheWooLick
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by Jason:https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/fans-fights-levis-stadium-possible-lifetime-ban/3325169/?mibextid=Zxz2cZ
You can easily avoid that. Your buddy buys the tickets and puts it in his name. Then brings you to the game. I really don't think that prevents much if people want to get around it. But they try at least. Maybe there is some more severe penalty if you are caught by police violating that. I'm not sure?
They have racial recognition technology. Hats, masks and glasses will need to be removed at gates soon.
Sep 25, 2023 at 11:41 AM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by TheWooLick:oh really ?
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Jason:
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/fans-fights-levis-stadium-possible-lifetime-ban/3325169/?mibextid=Zxz2cZ
You can easily avoid that. Your buddy buys the tickets and puts it in his name. Then brings you to the game. I really don't think that prevents much if people want to get around it. But they try at least. Maybe there is some more severe penalty if you are caught by police violating that. I'm not sure?
They have racial recognition technology. Hats, masks and glasses will need to be removed at gates soon.
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Sep 25, 2023 at 12:23 PM ]
Sep 25, 2023 at 12:02 PM
- Dshearn
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football fans have changed more they say basketball fans or horse racing fans...in my very limited but long sports history opinion.
Back in the old days of posting on the gate in the 1990s that was a very smart, informed, positive group, we had ball coaches that frequented the forums....heck even Amp Lee posted once in a while. The whole wine and cheese crowd was simply different ....closer to what you see with horse racing fans today.
Having said that....most fans that lived though the 60s or 70s were not yet "online" and those that were online had just went though the 80s, like most of the "online generation"... so that generation of 49ers fans had no idea what bad times were....they had just went though the better part of two decades of dominance....kinda easy to be positive when the only thing you know about football is kicking the crap out of everyone else your whole football life.
Today even though information is everywhere you get less informed more reactionary types, some people come to the webzone to troll and fight. That would never have been tolerated on the gate. You come in with enough bad takes and that was that. There was no name change or anything like that...you had to live with your reputation.
You also get a greater meshing of income/education/age/cultural ranges online than you ever did in the past. People that don't start from a common ground are going to see things differently. Take that and add in SF is plain different than the rest of the United States and you are starting to get cultural difference levels that approach what Soccer Fans have had for some time.
I would suspect that if our online interactions are a window to our real world demeanors then what we have watched unfold online is probably starting to happen during football games.
Back in the old days of posting on the gate in the 1990s that was a very smart, informed, positive group, we had ball coaches that frequented the forums....heck even Amp Lee posted once in a while. The whole wine and cheese crowd was simply different ....closer to what you see with horse racing fans today.
Having said that....most fans that lived though the 60s or 70s were not yet "online" and those that were online had just went though the 80s, like most of the "online generation"... so that generation of 49ers fans had no idea what bad times were....they had just went though the better part of two decades of dominance....kinda easy to be positive when the only thing you know about football is kicking the crap out of everyone else your whole football life.
Today even though information is everywhere you get less informed more reactionary types, some people come to the webzone to troll and fight. That would never have been tolerated on the gate. You come in with enough bad takes and that was that. There was no name change or anything like that...you had to live with your reputation.
You also get a greater meshing of income/education/age/cultural ranges online than you ever did in the past. People that don't start from a common ground are going to see things differently. Take that and add in SF is plain different than the rest of the United States and you are starting to get cultural difference levels that approach what Soccer Fans have had for some time.
I would suspect that if our online interactions are a window to our real world demeanors then what we have watched unfold online is probably starting to happen during football games.
Sep 25, 2023 at 12:15 PM
- AB81Rules
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:NFL coverup going into effect. Can't have that bad press.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:supposedly the guy hit him and he went into cardiac arrest, thats killing to me
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
A Dolphins fan just killed an Patriots fan this past sunday
the attorney's office reported he had underlying medical issues and autopsy results revealed his death was not from any sort of sustained injury.
Yeah, I agree, and I disagree with that medical report, beating the guy to the point of cardiac arrest is murder IMO, now I wonder what defense the guy or girl(Idk who did this) will have as to why this happened.
Sep 25, 2023 at 12:16 PM
- AB81Rules
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:of really ?
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Jason:
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/fans-fights-levis-stadium-possible-lifetime-ban/3325169/?mibextid=Zxz2cZ
You can easily avoid that. Your buddy buys the tickets and puts it in his name. Then brings you to the game. I really don't think that prevents much if people want to get around it. But they try at least. Maybe there is some more severe penalty if you are caught by police violating that. I'm not sure?
They have racial recognition technology. Hats, masks and glasses will need to be removed at gates soon.
I think/hope he meant facial not racial.
Sep 25, 2023 at 2:31 PM
- Dr_Bill_Walsh
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A: soy and plastic chemicals in Northern California water.
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Sep 25, 2023 at 4:02 PM
- leakyfausett
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Its a game. Entertainment. Not a life altering event too many fans act like it is. Add copious amounts of booze and the most abundant element on earth begins to shine. Stupidity.