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Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Disp:
Originally posted by Furlow:
They each need to pitch in along with Jed to buy Purdy a house and a car. The OWE him.

He can't afford a house and a car on $900k/yr?

In CA, 50% of that is going to taxes. Leaves $450k which is $37,500/mo. Decent house in Santa Clara is probably $2M, which would be $15k/mo. That's a lot for his salary. He's definitely renting.
Purdy sure he could rent a real nice room at one of his all pro buddies house until he gets the big check after next season. He seems like a smart guy who probably is making sound financial decisions. This is also not accounting for any sponsorships he has. I believe he has at least one deal in place with Alaska Airlines already. I'm sure there are more.
Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Disp:
Originally posted by Furlow:
They each need to pitch in along with Jed to buy Purdy a house and a car. The OWE him.

He can't afford a house and a car on $900k/yr?

In CA, 50% of that is going to taxes. Leaves $450k which is $37,500/mo. Decent house in Santa Clara is probably $2M, which would be $15k/mo. That's a lot for his salary. He's definitely renting.
Purdy sure he could rent a real nice room at one of his all pro buddies house until he gets the big check after next season. He seems like a smart guy who probably is making sound financial decisions. This is also not accounting for any sponsorships he has. I believe he has at least one deal in place with Alaska Airlines already. I'm sure there are more.

That is also assuming that he doesn't get any kind of sponsorship deals.
Still waiting for 1 to 2 names that could or would do a better job here these last several years than these 2?
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Is there a longer tenured GM/HC pair in the league right now that haven't won a SB?

Sean McDermott, and Brandon Beane. Maybe the same tenure, though.

I was about to say this. I believe they started in 2017, as well.

this is different here though, this place was a dumpster fire. Talentless and horrible all around. we've built this place up from the ground up and have endured record amount of injuries along the way. Not everything has been perfect but if you look at where we started and where we are - it's special and I'm glad to have been apart of it. I want a super bowl as much as anyone but I also understand how luck plays a major factor too.

Remember the Bears vs. 49ers rebuilding plan thread?

Of course some people will say the 49ers = the Bears because neither have won a Super Bowl.
Originally posted by eric_anthony:
It is a little premature to do this right now. What was the rush? Why not wait until after the season ends?

What should they wait for?
Other title we extended our championship window 6 years
Originally posted by Jcool:
bye bye Adam Peters.

I was actually hoping to extend Kyle and promote Peters if Lynch had plans to move back to TV
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Remember the Bears vs. 49ers rebuilding plan thread?

Of course some people will say the 49ers = the Bears because neither have won a Super Bowl.

NC is still hoping the Bears turn that ship around.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Is there a longer tenured GM/HC pair in the league right now that haven't won a SB?

Sean McDermott, and Brandon Beane. Maybe the same tenure, though.

I was about to say this. I believe they started in 2017, as well.

this is different here though, this place was a dumpster fire. Talentless and horrible all around. we've built this place up from the ground up and have endured record amount of injuries along the way. Not everything has been perfect but if you look at where we started and where we are - it's special and I'm glad to have been apart of it. I want a super bowl as much as anyone but I also understand how luck plays a major factor too.

Before McDermott got to Buffalo they hadn't made the playoffs since 1999 & hasn't won a playoff game since 1995. .
Originally posted by joeknows:
Originally posted by ColorMeBaddFan:
It's difficult to get such an extension when you bomb a QB selection where you used three years' worth of first round picks. However, they've drafted three potential HoFers in Warner, Bosa and Kittle and have (I assume) been the best in the league in drafting in the later rounds. They got exceptionally lucky with BCB. They're a marginal playoff team, at best, the moment Jimmy went down last year without Purdy. With Purdy they were Super Bowl contenders last year, and now, presumably, one of 2 or 3 frontrunners this year. If they had entered this year with Lance or Darnold as the starter and started out 1-2 after either failing to make the playoffs last year or getting blown out in the first round, do they still get the extension? I'm not asking this rhetorically, I don't know. Had they failed to make the playoffs last year, that would have been three out of six years out of the postseason and without BCB, they would have possibly still been a mess at QB. I think they would have continued on with these guys, but I'm not sure about a six year extension.

QBs save and ruin coaches. Guys like Zach Wilson are absolute coach killers -- the direct opposites are BCB and Russel Wilson when he was on his rookie contract. The Jets probably had the best draft of any team in a decade last year when they picked up Sauce Gardner, Garret Wilson and Breece Hall. Salah has put together a good defense and I think their culture is good. The Jets needed a QB and the Jets didn't reach for Zach Wilson. Had they not drafted him, the 49ers would have and we all would have been pissed at his laziness and crappy play like the Jets fans currently are. I've speculated that Lynch and Shanahan moved up to #3 in the hopes that the Jets would pass on Wilson and instead select Justin Fields or even Trey Lance. It seemed like an odd move to me at the time because Wilson evolved into the undisputed #2 and I felt like the other QBs were a reach at #3. It kills me that the #12 pick was eventually used on Micah Parsons by the Cowboys.

I wouldn't say 'exceptionally lucky'. 49ers had 3 QB's on contract at the time of the pick (Trey - $5.3M, Jimmy G - slated for trade, ended up on pay-as-you-play - $11M, Nate Sudfeld was guaranteed $2M, ended up paying him $1M after trade). Plus I think I'm right in saying that Shanahan had never taken more than two QB's before, so we were pretty overloaded at the position.
It was an imaginative pick.


Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by joeknows:
Originally posted by ColorMeBaddFan:
It's difficult to get such an extension when you bomb a QB selection where you used three years' worth of first round picks. However, they've drafted three potential HoFers in Warner, Bosa and Kittle and have (I assume) been the best in the league in drafting in the later rounds. They got exceptionally lucky with BCB. They're a marginal playoff team, at best, the moment Jimmy went down last year without Purdy. With Purdy they were Super Bowl contenders last year, and now, presumably, one of 2 or 3 frontrunners this year. If they had entered this year with Lance or Darnold as the starter and started out 1-2 after either failing to make the playoffs last year or getting blown out in the first round, do they still get the extension? I'm not asking this rhetorically, I don't know. Had they failed to make the playoffs last year, that would have been three out of six years out of the postseason and without BCB, they would have possibly still been a mess at QB. I think they would have continued on with these guys, but I'm not sure about a six year extension.

QBs save and ruin coaches. Guys like Zach Wilson are absolute coach killers -- the direct opposites are BCB and Russel Wilson when he was on his rookie contract. The Jets probably had the best draft of any team in a decade last year when they picked up Sauce Gardner, Garret Wilson and Breece Hall. Salah has put together a good defense and I think their culture is good. The Jets needed a QB and the Jets didn't reach for Zach Wilson. Had they not drafted him, the 49ers would have and we all would have been pissed at his laziness and crappy play like the Jets fans currently are. I've speculated that Lynch and Shanahan moved up to #3 in the hopes that the Jets would pass on Wilson and instead select Justin Fields or even Trey Lance. It seemed like an odd move to me at the time because Wilson evolved into the undisputed #2 and I felt like the other QBs were a reach at #3. It kills me that the #12 pick was eventually used on Micah Parsons by the Cowboys.

I wouldn't say 'exceptionally lucky'. 49ers had 3 QB's on contract at the time of the pick (Trey - $5.3M, Jimmy G - slated for trade, ended up on pay-as-you-play - $11M, Nate Sudfeld was guaranteed $2M, ended up paying him $1M after trade). Plus I think I'm right in saying that Shanahan had never taken more than two QB's before, so we were pretty overloaded at the position.
It was an imaginative pick.

He's a Mr. Irrelevant playing the best of the entire QB class. That's insanely lucky. But like they say, it's sometimes better to be lucky than good.

The point is that people can't have it both ways - if Trey was very badly judged, then Brock was very well judged.

If Brock was simply 'lucky', then the Trey move was also unlucky.

I don't like the widespread attribution of blame in the former without the recognition of achievement in the latter.
Originally posted by 1251alex:
My thoughts? All through high school and early years of adulthood I had to endure the Nolan/Singietary years. Then Harbaugh came, gave me a taste of excitement and success. Then he left and it felt like the dark years all over again, which they were. Then we got Shanny and Lynch and gave them time to cook. The extension should have been for a lifetime is my only complaint.
I'm happy for fans who never got to experience the glory years. To go through HS with Nolan/Singletary So much suffering. I remember a Cardinals game either 05 or 07 where we went up 14 - 0 in the first quarter and lost 31 - 14. I remember games where Frank Gore would run for like 100 yards by the half but we had to go to a passing offense because we were being blown out. To go from a Jim Hustler and a Jimmy Raye calling our offense to this.

Im having as much fun watching football as I've had since I was a kid.

Originally posted by random49er:
Still waiting for 1 to 2 names that could or would do a better job here these last several years than these 2?

Don't hold your breath.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by eric_anthony:
It is a little premature to do this right now. What was the rush? Why not wait until after the season ends?

What should they wait for?
Jed extends now and they win the Super Bowl in the next year or two, it'll look like 2 bargain contracts. Jed waits for them to win it all and then extends them, you are gonna pay them both top dollar. Jed is betting on himself that he picked the 2 right men to lead this organization. I'd say that is a pretty safe and sound bet as it stands currently.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Since07:
Not sold yet on Lynch, Kyle Shanahan is an absolute gem. I like the move by York in a time they are being scrutinized about the Trey Lance debacle he gave them reassurance.

It shows that Jed is smart enough to look at the big picture ( overall results on the field) instead of one mistake (Trey Lance) Teams that have owners that over react and fly off the handle are the ones that are always looking for and never finding the answer. Stable ownership and continuity at GM and HC are all part of the winning formula.



"One mistake"

Let's just take a look at Lynch/Shanahan's mistakes vs hits

Mistakes:

Solomon Thomas at 3 in 2017
I'd say Foster but Saban lied to the 49ers brass, and no one expected him to be a headache
Trey Lance trade
Kinlaw pick/DeFo trade
Malcolm Smith signing (nitpicking here)
Witherspoon pick (nitpicking here)
Sermon Pick
Joe Williams pick

Hits:

Good Picks:

Bosa
Deebo
Kittle
Warner
Aiyuk
Hufanga
Dre
Lenoir
Bell (Looks like a steal)
Moody (Looks like a great pick)
Wishnowsky (Good pick whether ppl agree or not with me)
Banks
Burford
DJ Jones (Hated losing him, but we have Hargrave now, we upgraded over DJ & DeFo)
Purdy

Others:

Trent trade
CMC trade
Ward signing
Hargrave signing
Juice signing

Letting Laken walk
Letting McGlinchey walk

Those are off the top of my head, I'm sure there's more mistakes I'm forgetting, but more hits than misses.

Whooooa this is missing pettis hurd tdp another 3rd rd whiff.

As far as "hits" theres a few where it's just too early to tell to put them on the list yet. You can see who they are I don't have to call them all out.

As far as signing goes your memories pretty short. Don't forget about D Ford and McKinney. And Quan Alexander

It's been so long I forgot about the Pettis & Hurd picks, not gonna say TDP is a bad pick till he's gone.

Forgot Dee Ford somehow, McKinnon too. Kwon was fine, he just became expendable when we drafted Dre.
Originally posted by All22:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

First round picks are overrated.

We wouldn't have Hargrave if we had to pay another 3 first round busts too.

I wouldn't go that far. But it goes to show how well they have built this team, its unprecedented. Mistakes like this typically kill franchises. Instead, we are an NFC favorite.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I wouldn't go that far. But it goes to show how well they have built this team, its unprecedented. Mistakes like this typically kill franchises. Instead, we are an NFC favorite.

You get a lot of grace when you seemingly draft an all pro a year.

Can list all the hits and misses you want. Real question is who hitting more often. Outside of maybe Philly I don't think anyone is.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Sep 23, 2023 at 10:05 AM ]
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