Lynch and Shanny are extended. Your thoughts?

Clearly making a mistake by not firing Kyle for a guy who can't beat Northwestern though.

I think, John Lynch is so good improve for GM. And what about head coach is Kyle Shanahan? Um. I dont know yet. I think Kyle Shanahan is failed again for lost at superbowl again and another again? Probably is wasted time of the years? If Kyle Shanahan is not smart head coach IQ of the football? He dont understand the players injury cause downgrade from offensive or defense.

Originally posted by BuZzB05:
I think, John Lynch is so good improve for GM. And what about head coach is Kyle Shanahan? Um. I dont know yet. I think Kyle Shanahan is failed again for lost at superbowl again and another again? Probably is wasted time of the years? If Kyle Shanahan is not smart head coach IQ of the football? He dont understand the players injury cause downgrade from offensive or defense.

What's sad is this is still a more coherent argument than anything Cortez has ever posted.

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by eric_anthony:
It is a little premature to do this right now. What was the rush? Why not wait until after the season ends?

What should they wait for?

Jed extends now and they win the Super Bowl in the next year or two, it'll look like 2 bargain contracts. Jed waits for them to win it all and then extends them, you are gonna pay them both top dollar. Jed is betting on himself that he picked the 2 right men to lead this organization. I'd say that is a pretty safe and sound bet as it stands currently.

Yeah, that's how I'm reading it too. He's expecting a super bowl this year or next and getting ahead of the cost curve so to speak.

Still, it's a good bet. With CMC and Purdy, this team hasn't really lost a game yet.

Next problem to solve is who will replace Anthony Lynn, as I"m expecting him to be poached from our coaching staff this year as was, Demeco, Saleh, and McDaniels in years past. Adam Peters is another guy I'm expecting to get a ton of offers in the offseason to run a bottom feeding front office. It's a good problem to have, don't get me wrong. It means the organization is doing well and winning.

Originally posted by 49ersking:
Glad both got extended.

Shanahan is the reason this team scores 30 points a game, regardless of who is at center.
Lynch is the reason this team continues to have good defenses year after year.

Both men compliment each others skill set. Both guys are great in their experience area - one on offense, one on defense. One played in the NFL, which is a big help in contract negotiations. The other is an incredible offensive X's and O's genius, who's dad was also known as an X's and O's genius when he was actively coaching.

Kyle makes the big decisions, but he's well supported by John and Adam Peters, and in the background - when Kyle get's a bit bullheaded or when Kyle doesn't have any answers to a particular problem, Papa Shanahan is there to kind of steer his son, and his son's support staff to possible solutions.

Kyle is the penultimate heir to the Bill Walsh, Tom Landry, and ironically the Al Davis legacy too.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I think they'd of brought in darnold and/or made a trade for cousins. I don't think they'd of rolled into this year with Lance at the helm, at least not without giving him a ton of competition.

We probably wouldn't know how good Brock is if he went somewhere else. I'm just glad we have him. He really has saved our behinds so far from a colossally bad situation.

i also don't think we would of kept jimmy, I think that relationship is/was toast.

Mightve looked at Cousins too for sure.

Pats paid Bledsoe a kings ransom too before they knew what they had in Brady. Sometimes it's the things you least expect thst work out the best. Rams and Trent Green as well.

Bill Walsh didn't want to draft Joe. He wanted Phil Simms IIRC.
Dallas wanted Paxton Lynch and had "to settle" for Dak Prescott.
Sean Payton wanted Tony Romo but he didn't want to give Dallas a second rounder.
Finally he took Drew Brees because Miami was affraid of Brees's shoulder.
There's a lot of stories like that.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Jcool:
You would 100% have a problem with it if Brock Purdy was on another team.

if Brock was on another team, we don't even know who brock is today

what? Lol. No. He's really doing good things out there. He would do this for a lot of offenses. Maybe not scoring 30 points a game, but yeah, making things better just about everywhere.

Originally posted by pdc20:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I think they'd of brought in darnold and/or made a trade for cousins. I don't think they'd of rolled into this year with Lance at the helm, at least not without giving him a ton of competition.

We probably wouldn't know how good Brock is if he went somewhere else. I'm just glad we have him. He really has saved our behinds so far from a colossally bad situation.

i also don't think we would of kept jimmy, I think that relationship is/was toast.

Mightve looked at Cousins too for sure.

Pats paid Bledsoe a kings ransom too before they knew what they had in Brady. Sometimes it's the things you least expect thst work out the best. Rams and Trent Green as well.

Bill Walsh didn't want to draft Joe. He wanted Phil Simms IIRC.
Dallas wanted Paxton Lynch and had "to settle" for Dak Prescott.
Sean Payton wanted Tony Romo but he didn't want to give Dallas a second rounder.
Finally he took Drew Brees because Miami was affraid of Brees's shoulder.
There's a lot of stories like that.

There is conflicting reports to this, but it was rumored that Bill Walsh offered Joe Montana and the 5th pick in the draft for the rights to draft John Elway. One GM said when push came to shove Walsh backed out, the other says they wanted more for Elway. Keep in mind this is after Montana won his first superbowl.... Both confirmed there as least conversations to move Montana.

So there is at least some smoke that leans towards Walsh wanted more at QB then Montana early on.

Same with the 49ers offering Steve Young for a first from GB so they could start Steve Bono.

So yeah....tons of stories.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I disagree. Mistakes like that will kill this franchise. We just haven't seen it yet. Because of the draft errors and Lance mistake we have missed out on one or two superbowls during this superbowl window. We are one or two injuries away from being a sub .500 team.

I remember the niners royally screwing up draft after draft in the early to mid 90s. Nobody cared because they were still winning. Then it happened. Steve Young got concussed and the team went into shambles. These mistakes will catch up. The stars are aging. The young guys are mediocre with the exception of bosa.

Totally disagree. I put the blame on injuries. As to your comment about us being one or two injuries away from being a sub .500 team, have you been paying attention the last few years? Obviously not. Well, try to. The last few years we have had some of the deepest injury lists I have seen and yet we have stayed in contention. But now all of a sudden, two injuries will take us sub .500!

The stars are ageing and the youngsters are mediocre? Aiyuk 25, Banks 26, Bell 23, Bosa 25, Darnold 26, Greenlaw 26, Hufuanga 23, Jennings 26, McCaffrey 27, Mitchell 25, Purdy 23, Deebo 27, Warner 26. And aside from Deebo and McCaffrey, these are all guys that figure as mediocre in your view.

I don't recall seeing this volume of wrongness in one post for a long time.

Assuming you aren't familiar with his posts then. They're constantly bad / wrong.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by BuZzB05:
I think, John Lynch is so good improve for GM. And what about head coach is Kyle Shanahan? Um. I dont know yet. I think Kyle Shanahan is failed again for lost at superbowl again and another again? Probably is wasted time of the years? If Kyle Shanahan is not smart head coach IQ of the football? He dont understand the players injury cause downgrade from offensive or defense.

What's sad is this is still a more coherent argument than anything Cortez has ever posted.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by BuZzB05:
I think, John Lynch is so good improve for GM. And what about head coach is Kyle Shanahan? Um. I dont know yet. I think Kyle Shanahan is failed again for lost at superbowl again and another again? Probably is wasted time of the years? If Kyle Shanahan is not smart head coach IQ of the football? He dont understand the players injury cause downgrade from offensive or defense.

What's sad is this is still a more coherent argument than anything Cortez has ever posted.

Buzz is spot on.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I disagree. Mistakes like that will kill this franchise. We just haven't seen it yet. Because of the draft errors and Lance mistake we have missed out on one or two superbowls during this superbowl window. We are one or two injuries away from being a sub .500 team.

I remember the niners royally screwing up draft after draft in the early to mid 90s. Nobody cared because they were still winning. Then it happened. Steve Young got concussed and the team went into shambles. These mistakes will catch up. The stars are aging. The young guys are mediocre with the exception of bosa.

Totally disagree. I put the blame on injuries. As to your comment about us being one or two injuries away from being a sub .500 team, have you been paying attention the last few years? Obviously not. Well, try to. The last few years we have had some of the deepest injury lists I have seen and yet we have stayed in contention. But now all of a sudden, two injuries will take us sub .500!

The stars are ageing and the youngsters are mediocre? Aiyuk 25, Banks 26, Bell 23, Bosa 25, Darnold 26, Greenlaw 26, Hufuanga 23, Jennings 26, McCaffrey 27, Mitchell 25, Purdy 23, Deebo 27, Warner 26. And aside from Deebo and McCaffrey, these are all guys that figure as mediocre in your view.

I don't recall seeing this volume of wrongness in one post for a long time.

Assuming you aren't familiar with his posts then. They're constantly bad / wrong.

Not all of them

https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/194858-who-one-guy-you-dont-want-49ers-drafting/search=Josecortez

Originally posted by BuZzB05:
I think, John Lynch is so good improve for GM. And what about head coach is Kyle Shanahan? Um. I dont know yet. I think Kyle Shanahan is failed again for lost at superbowl again and another again? Probably is wasted time of the years? If Kyle Shanahan is not smart head coach IQ of the football? He dont understand the players injury cause downgrade from offensive or defense.

Herr John Lynch is so good, it is truth, but as an master General Patton Manager? As Daniel-san he has many 'show me paint the fence' to go. One shouldnst yet get one's silken corselets dampened in the passion of the marital longing thus far, going as if Herr Lynch is shown his mighty sword for an bawdy assemblage of wanton spinsters. Nay, Herr Lynch is as an iron forged gladius which yet retains many impurity and awaits the polishing final. Many must he rub, stroke, beat and polish before he is hot liquid become sterling white steel of glory, as the sword of legends of old.

And Herr Kyle Shanahan, he is as the young Padowan with talents unassailable, who dwell in the bivouac of the many adroit yet unlearned, to hearing lesson from the diminutive green wizard. Talent and endowment he has in plenitude, yet in the wisdom he is but wee and compact. Perchance in time an revelation will press upon him and deep inside of his love center and cause his demulcent cream of the wise knowledge to rise to the tip of the milking basin and reward him with the clear insight of the gods. Until such an time as that, however, we must suffice to know that he is an gifted yet unbridled mare, needing the firm hands of the wise equestrian consort.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Jcool:
You would 100% have a problem with it if Brock Purdy was on another team.

if Brock was on another team, we don't even know who brock is today

what? Lol. No. He's really doing good things out there. He would do this for a lot of offenses. Maybe not scoring 30 points a game, but yeah, making things better just about everywhere.

Its possible he could of went to a team with already a really good QB. He may of gotten cut before he had a chance to show what he has, or he would of sat on the practice Squad or a backup role without a chance to really showcase anything. It was actually lucky for him to come to our team where he had a chance to actually get on the field and show that he belongs in this league.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Clearly making a mistake by not firing Kyle for a guy who can't beat Northwestern though.

Wait, who can't beat Northwestern?