Lynch and Shanny are extended. Your thoughts?

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Clearly making a mistake by not firing Kyle for a guy who can't beat Northwestern though.

Wait, who can't beat Northwestern?

Lmao I was wondering the same thing

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Clearly making a mistake by not firing Kyle for a guy who can't beat Northwestern though.

I don't understand why Jed wouldn't want to replace Kyle with the guy from Ballers.

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Jcool:
You would 100% have a problem with it if Brock Purdy was on another team.

if Brock was on another team, we don't even know who brock is today

what? Lol. No. He's really doing good things out there. He would do this for a lot of offenses. Maybe not scoring 30 points a game, but yeah, making things better just about everywhere.

Its possible he could of went to a team with already a really good QB. He may of gotten cut before he had a chance to show what he has, or he would of sat on the practice Squad or a backup role without a chance to really showcase anything. It was actually lucky for him to come to our team where he had a chance to actually get on the field and show that he belongs in this league.

I think there's a chance he would have been able to show his talents. Kurt Warner was able to catch on with another team, but he had to be persistent. He had to go outside the NFL to do it. Guys like Warren Moon who had to fight *stereotypes* also were eventually successful.

Having said that, it would have taken more time than here, for sure. Here, he is a starter within the first year of his NFL career. Agree that, there's *good chance* he either could have given up and not pursue an NFL career after not catching on as a NFL player on a practice squad or would have been benchwarmer because of being - possibly - an undrafted free agent. There is a big chunk of luck-factor in Purdy's career that's for sure. Trey being injured and Jimmy being injured - is an example of such luck.

ShanaLynch also lucked out in picking Purdy. Basically Purdy was 100X better than who they thought he was. IMO.

shanahan for life. Trade Lynch to Kazakhstan

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
You really can. You expect a team to hit on a guy when they used three first round picks on them. Its an awful look if you miss you out on someone that you invested so heavily in,

Purdy was a flyer, they weren't even sure they were going to draft him at all but Griese and Slowik managed to convince them to pull the trigger in the late 7th. If they had even a slight inkling that Purdy could be this good, they would have drafted him a lot sooner. They absolutely got lucky as hell because had they let him go to UDFA, he might have very well signed with some other team and now they'd be more or less screwed, hoping to trade for Cousins or some other vet.

Lance failing was less about luck and more about poor evaluation. You went all in on a kid with 300 college passing attempts in an offense that didn't ask him to pass the ball a lot or even really play from behind much, one year's worth of games with a lot of mechanical issues that didn't necessarily make him a good fit for this style of offense.

It was a strange pick then, now it just looks like a really bad one.

Kyle wanted his josh allen type that he could mold, it was bold and it failed. They took a shot, i dont have a problem with it.

lol, trading away multiple first rounders is not just some trial and error. You go all in...

Originally posted by tankle104:
Lmao I was wondering the same thing

The guy Phoenix pictured. PJ Rob Corddry Fleck

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Lmao I was wondering the same thing

The guy Phoenix pictured. PJ Rob Corddry Fleck

Wasn't PJ FLeck someone on our squad in like 2004? That sounds familiar. He's a good coach though. I don't want him over kyle, I wouldn't really take anyone over Kyle.

just need Kyle to find his qb and it'll be a fun ride

Originally posted by communist:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
You really can. You expect a team to hit on a guy when they used three first round picks on them. Its an awful look if you miss you out on someone that you invested so heavily in,

Purdy was a flyer, they weren't even sure they were going to draft him at all but Griese and Slowik managed to convince them to pull the trigger in the late 7th. If they had even a slight inkling that Purdy could be this good, they would have drafted him a lot sooner. They absolutely got lucky as hell because had they let him go to UDFA, he might have very well signed with some other team and now they'd be more or less screwed, hoping to trade for Cousins or some other vet.

Lance failing was less about luck and more about poor evaluation. You went all in on a kid with 300 college passing attempts in an offense that didn't ask him to pass the ball a lot or even really play from behind much, one year's worth of games with a lot of mechanical issues that didn't necessarily make him a good fit for this style of offense.

It was a strange pick then, now it just looks like a really bad one.

Kyle wanted his josh allen type that he could mold, it was bold and it failed. They took a shot, i dont have a problem with it.

lol, trading away multiple first rounders is not just some trial and error. You go all in...

I agree about going *all in.* It's the evaluations that folks have a problem with. Having said that, it's better to be lucky than good, as some people say. Still QB evaluations in the NFL is hit and miss. It's really hard to get even just a plain ol' *starter* in the NFL. I read somewhere (sorry no link) that it's about 28% chance to get a starter in the first round. Starter, meaning a guy you pick in the first round that actually will start and play in his first year of his NFL career. I don't know how accurate that statistics is, but if so, then being a scout on an NFL team is a very insecure job for sure.

Originally posted by Giedi:
I agree about going *all in.* It's the evaluations that folks have a problem with. Having said that, it's better to be lucky than good, as some people say. Still QB evaluations in the NFL is hit and miss. It's really hard to get even just a plain ol' *starter* in the NFL. I read somewhere (sorry no link) that it's about 28% chance to get a starter in the first round. Starter, meaning a guy you pick in the first round that actually will start and play in his first year of his NFL career. I don't know how accurate that statistics is, but if so, then being a scout on an NFL team is a very insecure job for sure.

It's not that bad percentage-wise overall after they have matured a bit (2017-20 drafts), but you are asking a lot to have a rookie come in and start. It make Purdy's performance that much more remarkable.

Starting 2023

• mahomes
• watson
• mayfield
• allen
• jackson
• d jones
• love
• herbert
• tua
• burrow

Not Starting 2023

• trubisky
• darnold
• rosen
• haskins
• murray (injured)

Originally posted by pdc20:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I think they'd of brought in darnold and/or made a trade for cousins. I don't think they'd of rolled into this year with Lance at the helm, at least not without giving him a ton of competition.

We probably wouldn't know how good Brock is if he went somewhere else. I'm just glad we have him. He really has saved our behinds so far from a colossally bad situation.

i also don't think we would of kept jimmy, I think that relationship is/was toast.

Mightve looked at Cousins too for sure.

Pats paid Bledsoe a kings ransom too before they knew what they had in Brady. Sometimes it's the things you least expect thst work out the best. Rams and Trent Green as well.

Bill Walsh didn't want to draft Joe. He wanted Phil Simms IIRC.
Dallas wanted Paxton Lynch and had "to settle" for Dak Prescott.
Sean Payton wanted Tony Romo but he didn't want to give Dallas a second rounder.
Finally he took Drew Brees because Miami was affraid of Brees's shoulder.
There's a lot of stories like that.

I thought Walsh was working out Steve Fuller, but he didn't impress. First time I've heard about Sims.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Lmao I was wondering the same thing

The guy Phoenix pictured. PJ Rob Corddry Fleck

Wasn't PJ FLeck someone on our squad in like 2004? That sounds familiar. He's a good coach though. I don't want him over kyle, I wouldn't really take anyone over Kyle.

just need Kyle to find his qb and it'll be a fun ride

I remember he impressed in OTAs and some people thought he was going to be the next big thing.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Lmao I was wondering the same thing

The guy Phoenix pictured. PJ Rob Corddry Fleck

I thought PJ Fleck was the guy, wasn't sure, haven't seen the dude since he was a 49ers WR, he's Moon's choice of HCs for the 49ers over Kyle.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I thought Walsh was working out Steve Fuller, but he didn't impress. First time I've heard about Sims.

I remember a comment Walsh made back in that day about Simms and along the lines of not having the ability to trade up high enough to get him, but if he had dropped it may have been an option.

Hope shanny is our Chuck Noll

Originally posted by TopDogBerkeley:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I thought Walsh was working out Steve Fuller, but he didn't impress. First time I've heard about Sims.

I remember a comment Walsh made back in that day about Simms and along the lines of not having the ability to trade up high enough to get him, but if he had dropped it may have been an option.

Interesting. I don't think that would've been a bad choice. It just wouldn't have worked out as well as the choice we did make.