49ERS vs COWBOYS Pregame Thread - 2023 Season Week 5

Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:

Only one picking DAL has them winning by a point lol

Could this one come down to Moody? Hmm

Still going with

28 SF
21

for some reason I thought this was a Road Game. I actually wanted it to be a road game.

Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:

Rank is the same clown that thought we would go 3-13 the year went 13-3, right? Lmao

i will say though, I love it when everyone goes against us. More fun, IMO.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
for some reason I thought this was a Road Game. I actually wanted it to be a road game.

Nah, next week we play a top defense in the browns in their house, I believe. They have a putrid offense though. This will be a really telling stretch on our offense - I believe it's DAL, Browns, Bengals - the top 2/3 defenses and then the bengals, who have a respectable defense.

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:

Only one picking DAL has them winning by a point lol

Could this one come down to Moody? Hmm

Still going with

28 SF
21

I don't want it that close. Lol if it's that close, I hope it's cause they get a garbage time score at the end.

i do worry about our defense because they've let teams score 3-5 yards all day long without the big play, but teams have maintained extremely long drives consistently on us, which is tough. The cowboys offense really just gets short yard plays all day. I'm sure they'll pick on Ambry. Need to be stout on third down and stop giving up 10+ play drives.

thise kind of games are stressful cause our offense has to score every drive to stay ahead in the game, which is a tall order against a top defense with a great pass rush. We need to get a few early stops on defense so we can get a mess to make Dallas off their game and stress out dak.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
for some reason I thought this was a Road Game. I actually wanted it to be a road game.

Nah, next week we play a top defense in the browns in their house, I believe. They have a putrid offense though. This will be a really telling stretch on our offense - I believe it's DAL, Browns, Bengals - the top 2/3 defenses and then the bengals, who have a respectable defense.

Hence is why I was hoping it was @ Dallas as they're the #1 Defense. I want to see how our Offense plays on the road against currently the Best defense in the NFL. I also want to see how our Defense responds on the road after what Arizona did.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
for some reason I thought this was a Road Game. I actually wanted it to be a road game.

Nah, next week we play a top defense in the browns in their house, I believe. They have a putrid offense though. This will be a really telling stretch on our offense - I believe it's DAL, Browns, Bengals - the top 2/3 defenses and then the bengals, who have a respectable defense.

Hence is why I was hoping it was @ Dallas as they're the #1 Defense. I want to see how our Offense plays on the road against currently the Best defense in the NFL. I also want to see how our Defense responds on the road after what Arizona did.

I think our offense is going to be impressive. I'm hoping our defense makes strides - we have a great pass rush that teams are neutralizing by throwing quick, but our defense is giving so much cushion… idk what we can do besides playing stickier D to stop that and maybe stop worrying so much about the deep play.

Dallas may also move CeeDee Lamb to the slot and get Ambry Thomas on the field and demo to cover the slot - then abuse Thomas. I just hope our pass rush can start getting home or getting a ton of pressure quick on them. Teams seem to play is very different than everyone else cause our pass rush, which is annoying.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
for some reason I thought this was a Road Game. I actually wanted it to be a road game.

We always play better on the road IMO.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
for some reason I thought this was a Road Game. I actually wanted it to be a road game.

Nah, next week we play a top defense in the browns in their house, I believe. They have a putrid offense though. This will be a really telling stretch on our offense - I believe it's DAL, Browns, Bengals - the top 2/3 defenses and then the bengals, who have a respectable defense.

Hence is why I was hoping it was @ Dallas as they're the #1 Defense. I want to see how our Offense plays on the road against currently the Best defense in the NFL. I also want to see how our Defense responds on the road after what Arizona did.

I think our offense is going to be impressive. I'm hoping our defense makes strides - we have a great pass rush that teams are neutralizing by throwing quick, but our defense is giving so much cushion… idk what we can do besides playing stickier D to stop that and maybe stop worrying so much about the deep play.

Dallas may also move CeeDee Lamb to the slot and get Ambry Thomas on the field and demo to cover the slot - then abuse Thomas. I just hope our pass rush can start getting home or getting a ton of pressure quick on them. Teams seem to play is very different than everyone else cause our pass rush, which is annoying.

I hope Beal, Luter, and Womak can get healthy and make the 53. That should make the defense stronger down the stretch. In the meantime, Ambry is just going to have to get help. Both offense and defense are still works in progress for now. I don't think the DB's or the OLine are quite set yet. I mean that on the Offensive Line, McKivtiz is still improving and still getting better with coordinating with Burford, and on the defensive back side - some players just need to get healthy and make it into the defensive rotations.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:

Only one picking DAL has them winning by a point lol

Could this one come down to Moody? Hmm

Still going with

28 SF
21

I don't want it that close. Lol if it's that close, I hope it's cause they get a garbage time score at the end.

i do worry about our defense because they've let teams score 3-5 yards all day long without the big play, but teams have maintained extremely long drives consistently on us, which is tough. The cowboys offense really just gets short yard plays all day. I'm sure they'll pick on Ambry. Need to be stout on third down and stop giving up 10+ play drives.

thise kind of games are stressful cause our offense has to score every drive to stay ahead in the game, which is a tall order against a top defense with a great pass rush. We need to get a few early stops on defense so we can get a mess to make Dallas off their game and stress out dak.

Yup I feel like their D is a hint better than ours right now even without Diggs. The fact that our D has allowed long drives is concerning. It's going to come down to if our offense can score 20+ points. Shanny need to watch the DAL vs AZ game.

Originally posted by Baldie:
Yup I feel like their D is a hint better than ours right now even without Diggs. The fact that our D has allowed long drives is concerning. It's going to come down to if our offense can score 20+ points. Shanny need to watch the DAL vs AZ game.

Our offense is better
Our D..can be just as good if it's not soft caramel and our D plays like hungry ass bears. It being a prime time game, I think they will. Brock also does well in prime time. I definitely think we can score 20 plus points on them. Those long drives with AZ were concerning but..Dallas failed to even win against AZ. They were held to 16 pts against AZ..then we hold AZ to 16 pts the next week. I am certain Kyle watches the tape. I do trust again, that Dak will fumble or throw a pick. Brock is better at ball security, Brock is better mentally. He can get the ball out quickly and accurately. He doesn't get overwhelmed, Dak is a bit weak with that. Our D needs to chew his ass up and spit it out. Frazzle him early. Overwhelm the guy and he should break some. I mean the guy gets all butthurt just asking him about the loss against us last time. He is a bit fragile mentally, too emotional. (And maybe a little fat I guess? Lolol).He doesn't have what it takes to win an SB, he is not trustworthy. Dak will never win an SB. Brock has had experience with this team and won. We can do it again.
Lfg and make this 5-0

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:

Rank is the same clown that thought we would go 3-13 the year went 13-3, right? Lmao

i will say though, I love it when everyone goes against us. More fun, IMO.

Well learn to have fun anyway because most people do not pick against us, only a small few at best.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:

Rank is the same clown that thought we would go 3-13 the year went 13-3, right? Lmao

i will say though, I love it when everyone goes against us. More fun, IMO.

Rank is also the same clown that picked the Bears to go 12-5 this year and win the North lol

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
for some reason I thought this was a Road Game. I actually wanted it to be a road game.

Nah, next week we play a top defense in the browns in their house, I believe. They have a putrid offense though. This will be a really telling stretch on our offense - I believe it's DAL, Browns, Bengals - the top 2/3 defenses and then the bengals, who have a respectable defense.

Hence is why I was hoping it was @ Dallas as they're the #1 Defense. I want to see how our Offense plays on the road against currently the Best defense in the NFL. I also want to see how our Defense responds on the road after what Arizona did.

I think our offense is going to be impressive. I'm hoping our defense makes strides - we have a great pass rush that teams are neutralizing by throwing quick, but our defense is giving so much cushion… idk what we can do besides playing stickier D to stop that and maybe stop worrying so much about the deep play.

Dallas may also move CeeDee Lamb to the slot and get Ambry Thomas on the field and demo to cover the slot - then abuse Thomas. I just hope our pass rush can start getting home or getting a ton of pressure quick on them. Teams seem to play is very different than everyone else cause our pass rush, which is annoying.

We have given up some total passing yards (16th) on defense but we opt to give up the underneath stuff and limit explosive plays. We are forcing offenses to drive 80 yards in 10+ plays and score TD's in the redzone to stay in the game. Not an easy task for most offenses in the league to do that consistently. What most don't know is that our pass coverage is only giving up 5.4 YPA. I don't know where that ranks among other defenses but 5.4 YPA is ranked 29th among QB's.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
for some reason I thought this was a Road Game. I actually wanted it to be a road game.

Nah, next week we play a top defense in the browns in their house, I believe. They have a putrid offense though. This will be a really telling stretch on our offense - I believe it's DAL, Browns, Bengals - the top 2/3 defenses and then the bengals, who have a respectable defense.

Hence is why I was hoping it was @ Dallas as they're the #1 Defense. I want to see how our Offense plays on the road against currently the Best defense in the NFL. I also want to see how our Defense responds on the road after what Arizona did.

I think our offense is going to be impressive. I'm hoping our defense makes strides - we have a great pass rush that teams are neutralizing by throwing quick, but our defense is giving so much cushion… idk what we can do besides playing stickier D to stop that and maybe stop worrying so much about the deep play.

Dallas may also move CeeDee Lamb to the slot and get Ambry Thomas on the field and demo to cover the slot - then abuse Thomas. I just hope our pass rush can start getting home or getting a ton of pressure quick on them. Teams seem to play is very different than everyone else cause our pass rush, which is annoying.

We have given up some total passing yards (16th) on defense but we opt to give up the underneath stuff and limit explosive plays. We are forcing offenses to drive 80 yards in 10+ plays and score TD's in the redzone to stay in the game. Not an easy task for most offenses in the league to do that consistently. What most don't know is that our pass coverage is only giving up 5.4 YPA. I don't know where that ranks among other defenses but 5.4 YPA is ranked 29th among QB's.

Wilks seem to have a Fangio style philosophy of bend and force offense into mistakes.